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Post by greggpo on Nov 20, 2024 10:32:56 GMT -5
11-20
Leaders and Starters:
JONAH MARAIS – Slow Motion (91 spins) BILLIE EILISH - Wildflower (82 spins) TATE MCRAE – 2 Hands (73 spins) XIN LIU– Take A Slip (64 Spins) THE MARIAS – No One Notice (54 spins)
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Post by getouttamyway on Nov 20, 2024 13:09:43 GMT -5
When was the last time we had two unaccompanied women over 50 in the top 50 at the same time?
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Post by fearlessarrow on Nov 20, 2024 14:53:12 GMT -5
TW | TW+ | Artist | Title | Spins | Spin+ | Bullet | Bullet+ | Aud | Aud+ | 1 | = | LADY GAGA & BRUNO MARS | Die With A Smile | 14761 | +178 | 1273 | +44 | 36.557 | +0.653 | 2 | = | SABRINA CARPENTER | Taste | 13473 | +33 | 514 | -76 | 37.341 | +0.261 | 3 | = | MYLES SMITH | Stargazing | 13381 | +145 | 1175 | +19 | 32.186 | +0.219 | 4 | = | HOZIER | Too Sweet | 13030 | -169 | -1070 | -157 | 31.782 | -0.245 | 5 | = | BILLIE EILISH | BIRDS OF A FEATHER | 12353 | -116 | -980 | +33 | 34.136 | -0.584 | 6 | = | TAYLOR SWIFT | I Can Do It With A Broken... | 11822 | +278 | 1006 | +149 | 23.575 | +0.419 | 7 | = | TEDDY SWIMS | The Door | 9767 | -53 | -362 | -99 | 22.437 | -0.092 | 8 | +1 | THE WEEKND | Dancing In The Flames | 8427 | +64 | 346 | -1 | 19.763 | +0.265 | 9 | -1 | SABRINA CARPENTER | Please Please Please | 8393 | -178 | -995 | -59 | 22.615 | -0.297 | 10 | = | TATE MCRAE | It's ok I'm ok | 7589 | +68 | 281 | +50 | 16.468 | +0.205 | 11 | = | CHAPPELL ROAN | HOT TO GO! | 6829 | -381 | -2417 | -178 | 17.164 | -0.896 | 12 | = | CHARLI XCX | Apple | 6780 | +76 | 312 | +57 | 14.922 | +0.059 | 13 | = | MEGHAN TRAINOR | Criminals | 5972 | +80 | 410 | +95 | 12.215 | +0.122 | 14 | = | LADY GAGA | Disease | 5381 | +12 | 119 | -82 | 11.864 | -0.041 | 15 | +1 | ROSE & BRUNO MARS | APT | 5322 | +103 | 857 | -37 | 13.737 | +0.279 | 16 | -1 | JELLY ROLL | I Am Not Okay | 5268 | +42 | 275 | -35 | 9.576 | +0.095 | 17 | = | ADDISON RAE | Diet Pepsi | 5042 | +81 | 169 | +99 | 9.042 | +0.193 | 18 | = | SABRINA CARPENTER | Bed Chem | 4920 | +50 | 499 | -60 | 12.613 | +0.154 | 19 | = | GRACIE ABRAMS | Close To You | 4145 | +66 | 251 | +3 | 8.767 | +0.039 | 20 | = | KHALID | Heatstroke | 2951 | -53 | -168 | -96 | 3.827 | -0.070 | 21 | = | MGK & JELLY ROLL | Lonely Road | 2919 | +34 | 216 | -2 | 4.214 | +0.110 | 22 | = | D. GUETTA/ALPHAVILLE/AVA MAX | Forever Young | 2618 | +72 | 423 | +14 | 5.077 | +0.115 | 23 | = | KATY PERRY | I'm His, He's Mine f/Doechii | 2197 | -54 | -112 | -57 | 3.476 | -0.077 | 24 | = | AKON | Akon's Beautiful Day | 2131 | -3 | 355 | -79 | 2.960 | -0.016 | 25 | = | DAMIANO DAVID | Born With A Broken Heart | 1963 | +46 | 401 | -43 | 3.527 | +0.061 | 26 | = | THE WEEKND & PLAYBOI CARTI | Timeless | 1898 | +66 | 279 | +76 | 4.609 | +0.047 | 27 | = | KOE WETZEL & JESSIE MURPH | High Road | 1593 | +25 | 119 | +17 | 1.446 | +0.035 | 28 | +1 | MORGAN WALLEN | Love Somebody | 1548 | +47 | 223 | +11 | 2.305 | +0.118 | 29 | -1 | KESHA | Joyride | 1461 | -91 | -443 | -84 | 1.702 | -0.106 | 30 | = | LISA | Moonlit Floor (Kiss Me) | 1348 | +33 | 111 | +16 | 2.887 | +0.036 | 31 | = | KATSEYE | Touch | 1201 | -16 | -43 | -63 | 1.818 | -0.074 | 32 | = | CHAPPELL ROAN | Pink Pony Club | 1031 | +53 | 268 | +13 | 1.874 | +0.078 | 33 | = | ALEX WARREN | Burning Down | 941 | +93 | 386 | +32 | 1.695 | +0.252 | 34 | +3 | GRACIE ABRAMS | That's So True | 866 | +135 | 751 | +93 | 2.658 | +0.297 | 35 | -1 | KYLIE MINOGUE | Lights Camera Action | 815 | +9 | 65 | +9 | 0.670 | +0.009 | 36 | = | NCT DREAM | Rains In Heaven | 794 | +9 | 92 | +38 | 0.940 | -0.042 | 37 | -2 | FALLING IN REVERSE/JELLY ROLL | All My Life | 793 | +2 | -2 | -5 | 0.690 | +0.026 | 38 | = | JENNIE | Mantra | 735 | +12 | 260 | -26 | 0.892 | +0.020 | 39 | +1 | CHARLI XCX | 360 | 659 | -3 | -83 | +38 | 1.860 | -0.046 | 40 | -1 | MEGAN THEE STALLION | Mamushi f/Yuki Chiba | 657 | -11 | -80 | +21 | 2.830 | -0.102 | 41 | = | CAROL DOCHE | Montego f/Wiz Khalifa | 534 | +4 | 16 | +10 | 0.323 | +0.000 | 42 | = | AUDRIIX | I Do | 499 | -4 | -12 | +7 | 0.341 | -0.004 | 43 | = | GIGI PEREZ | Sailor Song | 411 | +21 | 128 | -4 | 0.553 | +0.012 | 44 | +1 | THE WEEKND | Sao Paulo f/Anitta | 404 | +32 | 257 | +10 | 0.517 | +0.035 | 45 | -1 | ANSLEY | Don Julio | 382 | +1 | 22 | -1 | 0.244 | -0.004 | 46 | = | JASON DERULO | Make Me Happy | 309 | +30 | 45 | +58 | 0.636 | +0.065 | 47 | = | CARA | BLVD | 286 | +11 | 44 | +14 | 0.084 | +0.005 | 48 | = | PARIS HILTON | BBA f/Megan Thee Stallion | 268 | +3 | -8 | +28 | 0.228 | +0.004 | 49 | = | LAWRENCE | Whatcha Want | 199 | -20 | -139 | +12 | 0.127 | -0.011 | 50 | = | GWEN STEFANI | Somebody Else's | 133 | -1 | 10 | -1 | 1.228 | -0.007 |
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Post by joshtheking on Nov 20, 2024 15:50:56 GMT -5
the push for Stargazing is wild
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Post by tomgsinger on Nov 20, 2024 16:45:21 GMT -5
the push for I Can Do it With a Broken Heart is wild Fixed
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Post by jdanton2 on Nov 20, 2024 16:49:44 GMT -5
the push for Stargazing and I Can Do it With a Broken Heart is wild Fixed neither makes sense though the later is Taylor so that actually makes more sense.
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Post by nick64 on Nov 20, 2024 20:30:46 GMT -5
I was thinking Dec 15 is when it will be eligible given the new recurrency rules, but I was not sure of the date when the Holiday freeze starts. So this has me thinking about “Too Sweet”. If this rule was in effect a month ago, “Too Sweet” would’ve gone recurrent when it dropped out of the top 5. And based on the “Heat Waves” and “Levitating” rule, the song has to outpeak the original peak to reenter. Since “Too Sweet” had already hit number one, would it have come back at all? Would we have had a recurrent with more spins than the number one song? Or would #1 peaking songs just have to match their peak in which case “Too Sweet” would have re-entered at number one. Regardless of which scenario would happen, it’s weird. Just wild to think about. Maybe anything can re-enter in the Top 5 now? Let’s be real, I doubt Mediabase thought this far ahead.
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Post by shakemaki on Nov 21, 2024 0:56:54 GMT -5
I was thinking Dec 15 is when it will be eligible given the new recurrency rules, but I was not sure of the date when the Holiday freeze starts. So this has me thinking about “Too Sweet”. If this rule was in effect a month ago, “Too Sweet” would’ve gone recurrent when it dropped out of the top 5. And based on the “Heat Waves” and “Levitating” rule, the song has to outpeak the original peak to reenter. Since “Too Sweet” had already hit number one, would it have come back at all? Would we have had a recurrent with more spins than the number one song? Or would #1 peaking songs just have to match their peak in which case “Too Sweet” would have re-entered at number one. Regardless of which scenario would happen, it’s weird. It’s a completely stupid decision. It’s not going to make CHR play newer songs in heavy rotation, it’s just going to mean that songs can get into the top ten now with ridiculously low spin totals. Does a low spin count song deserve to be in the top 10 just because there are 5 dinosaurs in the top 10 that now go recurrent under the new rules? No, I don’t see how it does. CHR obviously doesn’t want to play it like a top ten song at the end of the day. Anyway, it’s also irritating they would mess with the long history of the chart knowing that it will be impossible for most records to ever be broken now.
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Post by greggpo on Nov 21, 2024 7:42:43 GMT -5
So this has me thinking about “Too Sweet”. If this rule was in effect a month ago, “Too Sweet” would’ve gone recurrent when it dropped out of the top 5. And based on the “Heat Waves” and “Levitating” rule, the song has to outpeak the original peak to reenter. Since “Too Sweet” had already hit number one, would it have come back at all? Would we have had a recurrent with more spins than the number one song? Or would #1 peaking songs just have to match their peak in which case “Too Sweet” would have re-entered at number one. Regardless of which scenario would happen, it’s weird. It’s a completely stupid decision. It’s not going to make CHR play newer songs in heavy rotation, it’s just going to mean that songs can get into the top ten now with ridiculously low spin totals. Does a low spin count song deserve to be in the top 10 just because there are 5 dinosaurs in the top 10 that now go recurrent under the new rules? No, I don’t see how it does. CHR obviously doesn’t want to play it like a top ten song at the end of the day. Anyway, it’s also irritating they would mess with the long history of the chart knowing that it will be impossible for most records to ever be broken now. It only makes the most of longevity records impossible to be broken. Records like lowest spin count to make the Mediabase top 50 will be broken in the next couple months. This is a just a sign that CHR as a format is slowly dying, as it has been for years.
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 21, 2024 9:41:02 GMT -5
THURSDAY UPDATE:
2 1 LADY GAGA & BRUNO MARS Die With A Smile 14812 13662 1150 36.969 7 2 MYLES SMITH Stargazing 13565 12335 1230 32.697 5 3 SABRINA CARPENTER Taste 13540 13048 492 37.515 1 4 HOZIER Too Sweet 12946 14027 -1081 31.712 8 5 TAYLOR SWIFT I Can Do It With A Broken Heart 12096 10909 1187 24.054 3 6 BILLIE EILISH BIRDS OF A FEATHER 12035 13285 -1250 33.426 9 7 TEDDY SWIMS The Door 9647 10143 -496 22.142 12 8 THE WEEKND Dancing In The Flames 8595 8108 487 20.230 10 9 SABRINA CARPENTER Please Please Please 8319 9258 -939 22.367 13 10 TATE MCRAE It's ok I'm ok 7601 7338 263 16.710
14 11 CHARLI XCX Apple 6881 6452 429 15.108 11 12 CHAPPELL ROAN HOT TO GO! 6281 9118 -2837 15.912 15 13 MEGHAN TRAINOR Criminals 5961 5611 350 12.079 19 14 ROSE & BRUNO MARS APT 5438 4623 815 14.175 17 15 JELLY ROLL I Am Not Okay 5356 5001 355 9.755 16 16 LADY GAGA Disease 5338 5320 18 11.884 18 17 ADDISON RAE Diet Pepsi 5102 4897 205 9.290 20 18 SABRINA CARPENTER Bed Chem 5041 4470 571 13.040 22 19 GRACIE ABRAMS Close To You 4225 3913 312 8.895 24 20 MGK & JELLY ROLL Lonely Road 2969 2738 231 4.316
23 21 KHALID Heatstroke 2808 3123 -315 3.604 25 22 D. GUETTA/ALPHAVILLE/AVA MAX Forever Young 2701 2246 455 5.216 26 23 KATY PERRY I'm His, He's Mine f/Doechii 2175 2244 -69 3.446 28 24 AKON Akon's Beautiful Day 2139 1827 312 2.951 29 25 DAMIANO DAVID Born With A Broken Heart 2060 1619 441 3.674 30 26 THE WEEKND & PLAYBOI CARTI Timeless 1924 1614 310 4.709 31 27 KOE WETZEL & JESSIE MURPH High Road 1610 1487 123 1.488 32 28 MORGAN WALLEN Love Somebody 1586 1335 251 2.365 34 29 LISA Moonlit Floor (Kiss Me) 1380 1219 161 3.008 27 30 KESHA Joyride 1367 1854 -487 1.547
33 31 KATSEYE Touch 1199 1231 -32 1.749 35 32 CHAPPELL ROAN Pink Pony Club 1119 821 298 2.011 53 33 GRACIE ABRAMS That's So True 1047 176 871 2.994 41 34 ALEX WARREN Burning Down 974 557 417 1.813 37 35 KYLIE MINOGUE Lights Camera Action 853 771 82 0.748 36 36 FALLING IN REVERSE/JELLY ROLL All My Life 780 795 -15 0.678 39 37 NCT DREAM Rains In Heaven 778 731 47 0.879 42 38 JENNIE Mantra 725 519 206 0.842 40 39 MEGAN THEE STALLION Mamushi f/Yuki Chiba 670 689 -19 2.792 38 40 CHARLI XCX 360 659 733 -74 1.848
43 41 CAROL DOCHE Montego f/Wiz Khalifa 537 519 18 0.330 44 42 AUDRIIX I Do 505 513 -8 0.342 54 43 THE WEEKND Sao Paulo f/Anitta 439 166 273 0.555 48 44 GIGI PEREZ Sailor Song 436 303 133 0.570 46 45 ANSLEY Don Julio 387 361 26 0.245 50 46 JASON DERULO Make Me Happy 308 268 40 0.617 49 47 PARIS HILTON BBA f/Megan Thee Stallion 287 282 5 0.309 51 48 CARA BLVD 286 247 39 0.087 47 49 LAWRENCE Whatcha Want 191 309 -118 0.119 57 50 GWEN STEFANI Somebody Else's 131 125 6 1.243
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Post by whaleblubber on Nov 21, 2024 9:42:56 GMT -5
THURSDAY UPDATE:2 1 LADY GAGA & BRUNO MARS Die With A Smile 14771 13488 1283 36.570 5 2 SABRINA CARPENTER Taste 13484 12959 525 37.357 7 3 MYLES SMITH Stargazing 13391 12206 1185 32.198 1 4 HOZIER Too Sweet 13036 14100 -1064 31.791 4 5 BILLIE EILISH BIRDS OF A FEATHER 12359 13333 -974 34.143 8 6 TAYLOR SWIFT I Can Do It With A Broken Heart 11832 10816 1016 23.588 9 7 TEDDY SWIMS The Door 9772 10129 -357 22.443 12 8 THE WEEKND Dancing In The Flames 8433 8081 352 19.772 10 9 SABRINA CARPENTER Please Please Please 8395 9388 -993 22.618 13 10 TATE MCRAE It's ok I'm ok 7596 7308 288 16.478 11 11 CHAPPELL ROAN HOT TO GO! 6834 9246 -2412 17.171 14 12 CHARLI XCX Apple 6787 6468 319 14.931 15 13 MEGHAN TRAINOR Criminals 5977 5562 415 12.222 16 14 LADY GAGA Disease 5384 5262 122 11.867 20 15 ROSE & BRUNO MARS APT 5328 4465 863 13.745 17 16 JELLY ROLL I Am Not Okay 5274 4993 281 9.584 18 17 ADDISON RAE Diet Pepsi 5049 4873 176 9.050 21 18 SABRINA CARPENTER Bed Chem 4922 4421 501 12.616 22 19 GRACIE ABRAMS Close To You 4148 3894 254 8.772 23 20 KHALID Heatstroke 2954 3119 -165 3.832 24 21 MGK & JELLY ROLL Lonely Road 2924 2703 221 4.219 26 22 D. GUETTA/ALPHAVILLE/AVA MAX Forever Young 2619 2195 424 5.078 25 23 KATY PERRY I'm His, He's Mine f/Doechii 2199 2309 -110 3.479 28 24 AKON Akon's Beautiful Day 2136 1776 360 2.965 30 25 DAMIANO DAVID Born With A Broken Heart 1965 1562 403 3.530 29 26 THE WEEKND & PLAYBOI CARTI Timeless 1898 1619 279 4.610 31 27 KOE WETZEL & JESSIE MURPH High Road 1595 1474 121 1.451 32 28 MORGAN WALLEN Love Somebody 1550 1325 225 2.308 27 29 KESHA Joyride 1464 1904 -440 1.706 34 30 LISA Moonlit Floor (Kiss Me) 1350 1237 113 2.888 33 31 KATSEYE Touch 1202 1244 -42 1.820 36 32 CHAPPELL ROAN Pink Pony Club 1031 763 268 1.874 41 33 ALEX WARREN Burning Down 941 555 386 1.695 58 34 GRACIE ABRAMS That's So True 864 115 749 2.656 37 35 KYLIE MINOGUE Lights Camera Action 817 750 67 0.672 40 36 NCT DREAM Rains In Heaven 794 702 92 0.940 35 37 FALLING IN REVERSE/JELLY ROLL All My Life 793 795 -2 0.691 45 38 JENNIE Mantra 737 475 262 0.897 38 39 CHARLI XCX 360 659 742 -83 1.860 39 40 MEGAN THEE STALLION Mamushi f/Yuki Chiba 657 737 -80 2.830 42 41 CAROL DOCHE Montego f/Wiz Khalifa 535 518 17 0.323 43 42 AUDRIIX I Do 500 511 -11 0.343 48 43 GIGI PEREZ Sailor Song 414 283 131 0.557 54 44 THE WEEKND Sao Paulo f/Anitta 404 147 257 0.517 46 45 ANSLEY Don Julio 383 360 23 0.245 50 46 JASON DERULO Make Me Happy 309 264 45 0.636 52 47 CARA BLVD 286 242 44 0.084 49 48 PARIS HILTON BBA f/Megan Thee Stallion 269 276 -7 0.230 47 49 LAWRENCE Whatcha Want 199 338 -139 0.127 56 50 GWEN STEFANI Somebody Else's 134 123 11 1.229 I think this is the "bugged"/Wednesday afternoon update
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Post by greggpo on Nov 21, 2024 13:37:43 GMT -5
11-21 Leaders and Starters: JONAH MARAIS – Slow Motion (96 spins) TATE MCRAE – 2 Hands (92 spins) BILLIE EILISH - Wildflower (87 spins) GRACIE ARBAMS – I Love You, I’m Sorry (79 Spins) THE MARIAS – No One Notice (78 spins) XIN LIU – Take A Slip (64 Spins)
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Post by shakemaki on Nov 21, 2024 13:51:07 GMT -5
I’m going to vomit if Stargazing and ICDIWABH are the next #1s and block Taste. The only explanation for that would be programmers are feeling some Sabrina burnout, especially after taking Bed Chem top 20 with 3 other Sabrina songs still top 10 (I really wish they had just slowed their roll and waited for Taste to peak).
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Post by joshtheking on Nov 21, 2024 14:08:52 GMT -5
They should've rotated Espresso and PPP out faster really. And I need Bed Chem to really get going soon so there's room for Juno afterwards
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Post by fearlessarrow on Nov 21, 2024 17:09:52 GMT -5
TW | TW+ | Artist | Title | Spins | Spin+ | Bullet | Bullet+ | Aud | Aud+ | 1 | = | LADY GAGA & BRUNO MARS | Die With A Smile | 14812 | +51 | 1150 | -123 | 36.969 | +0.412 | 2 | +1 | MYLES SMITH | Stargazing | 13565 | +184 | 1230 | +55 | 32.697 | +0.511 | 3 | -1 | SABRINA CARPENTER | Taste | 13540 | +67 | 492 | -22 | 37.515 | +0.174 | 4 | = | HOZIER | Too Sweet | 12946 | -84 | -1081 | -11 | 31.712 | -0.070 | 5 | +1 | TAYLOR SWIFT | I Can Do It With A Broken... | 12096 | +274 | 1187 | +181 | 24.054 | +0.479 | 6 | -1 | BILLIE EILISH | BIRDS OF A FEATHER | 12035 | -318 | -1250 | -270 | 33.426 | -0.710 | 7 | = | TEDDY SWIMS | The Door | 9647 | -120 | -496 | -134 | 22.142 | -0.295 | 8 | = | THE WEEKND | Dancing In The Flames | 8595 | +168 | 487 | +141 | 20.230 | +0.467 | 9 | = | SABRINA CARPENTER | Please Please Please | 8319 | -74 | -939 | +56 | 22.367 | -0.248 | 10 | = | TATE MCRAE | It's ok I'm ok | 7601 | +12 | 263 | -18 | 16.710 | +0.242 | 11 | +1 | CHARLI XCX | Apple | 6881 | +101 | 429 | +117 | 15.108 | +0.186 | 12 | -1 | CHAPPELL ROAN | HOT TO GO! | 6281 | -548 | -2837 | -420 | 15.912 | -1.252 | 13 | = | MEGHAN TRAINOR | Criminals | 5961 | -11 | 350 | -60 | 12.079 | -0.136 | 14 | +1 | ROSE & BRUNO MARS | APT | 5438 | +116 | 815 | -42 | 14.175 | +0.438 | 15 | +1 | JELLY ROLL | I Am Not Okay | 5356 | +88 | 355 | +80 | 9.755 | +0.179 | 16 | -2 | LADY GAGA | Disease | 5338 | -43 | 18 | -101 | 11.884 | +0.020 | 17 | = | ADDISON RAE | Diet Pepsi | 5102 | +60 | 205 | +36 | 9.290 | +0.248 | 18 | = | SABRINA CARPENTER | Bed Chem | 5041 | +121 | 571 | +72 | 13.040 | +0.427 | 19 | = | GRACIE ABRAMS | Close To You | 4225 | +80 | 312 | +61 | 8.895 | +0.128 | 20 | +1 | MGK & JELLY ROLL | Lonely Road | 2969 | +50 | 231 | +15 | 4.316 | +0.102 | 21 | -1 | KHALID | Heatstroke | 2808 | -143 | -315 | -147 | 3.604 | -0.223 | 22 | = | D. GUETTA/ALPHAVILLE/AVA MAX | Forever Young | 2701 | +83 | 455 | +32 | 5.216 | +0.139 | 23 | = | KATY PERRY | I'm His, He's Mine f/Doechii | 2175 | -22 | -69 | +43 | 3.446 | -0.030 | 24 | = | AKON | Akon's Beautiful Day | 2139 | +8 | 312 | -43 | 2.951 | -0.009 | 25 | = | DAMIANO DAVID | Born With A Broken Heart | 2060 | +97 | 441 | +40 | 3.674 | +0.147 | 26 | = | THE WEEKND & PLAYBOI CARTI | Timeless | 1924 | +26 | 310 | +31 | 4.709 | +0.100 | 27 | = | KOE WETZEL & JESSIE MURPH | High Road | 1610 | +17 | 123 | +4 | 1.488 | +0.042 | 28 | = | MORGAN WALLEN | Love Somebody | 1586 | +38 | 251 | +28 | 2.365 | +0.060 | 29 | +1 | LISA | Moonlit Floor (Kiss Me) | 1380 | +32 | 161 | +50 | 3.008 | +0.121 | 30 | -1 | KESHA | Joyride | 1367 | -94 | -487 | -44 | 1.547 | -0.155 | 31 | = | KATSEYE | Touch | 1199 | -2 | -32 | +11 | 1.749 | -0.069 | 32 | = | CHAPPELL ROAN | Pink Pony Club | 1119 | +88 | 298 | +30 | 2.011 | +0.137 | 33 | +1 | GRACIE ABRAMS | That's So True | 1047 | +181 | 871 | +120 | 2.994 | +0.336 | 34 | -1 | ALEX WARREN | Burning Down | 974 | +33 | 417 | +31 | 1.813 | +0.118 | 35 | = | KYLIE MINOGUE | Lights Camera Action | 853 | +38 | 82 | +17 | 0.748 | +0.078 | 36 | +1 | FALLING IN REVERSE/JELLY ROLL | All My Life | 780 | -13 | -15 | -13 | 0.678 | -0.012 | 37 | -1 | NCT DREAM | Rains In Heaven | 778 | -16 | 47 | -45 | 0.879 | -0.061 | 38 | = | JENNIE | Mantra | 725 | -10 | 206 | -54 | 0.842 | -0.050 | 39 | +1 | MEGAN THEE STALLION | Mamushi f/Yuki Chiba | 670 | +13 | -19 | +61 | 2.792 | -0.038 | 40 | -1 | CHARLI XCX | 360 | 659 | +0 | -74 | +9 | 1.848 | -0.012 | 41 | = | CAROL DOCHE | Montego f/Wiz Khalifa | 537 | +3 | 18 | +2 | 0.330 | +0.007 | 42 | = | AUDRIIX | I Do | 505 | +6 | -8 | +4 | 0.342 | +0.001 | 43 | +1 | THE WEEKND | Sao Paulo f/Anitta | 439 | +35 | 273 | +16 | 0.555 | +0.038 | 44 | -1 | GIGI PEREZ | Sailor Song | 436 | +25 | 133 | +5 | 0.570 | +0.017 | 45 | = | ANSLEY | Don Julio | 387 | +5 | 26 | +4 | 0.245 | +0.001 | 46 | = | JASON DERULO | Make Me Happy | 308 | -1 | 40 | -5 | 0.617 | -0.019 | 47 | +1 | PARIS HILTON | BBA f/Megan Thee Stallion | 287 | +19 | 5 | +13 | 0.309 | +0.081 | 48 | -1 | CARA | BLVD | 286 | +0 | 39 | -5 | 0.087 | +0.003 | 49 | = | LAWRENCE | Whatcha Want | 191 | -8 | -118 | +21 | 0.119 | -0.008 | 50 | = | GWEN STEFANI | Somebody Else's | 131 | -2 | 6 | -4 | 1.243 | +0.015 |
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Post by chickythelittlechicken on Nov 21, 2024 17:18:08 GMT -5
STARGAZING??
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Post by #brayden on Nov 21, 2024 18:00:47 GMT -5
Are "Please Please Please," "The Door," and "Birds of a Feather" all going recurrent this week based on the new rules? They're all below #5 and have all been on the chart more than 20 weeks.
I hope "Disease" doesn't get dropped after only four weeks but I wouldn't be surprised. Interscope doesn't really participate in the radio shenanigans that several other labels do to keep songs that aren't connecting on the charts for 10+ weeks.
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 21, 2024 18:15:12 GMT -5
I don't think they've upped the recurrency threshold from top 10 to top 5, unless and until we see that happen could people please stop acting like that's what's happening because we literally don't even know what's up. Unless I've missed something Mediabase hasn't even told us what their rule update was.
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Post by bat1990 on Nov 21, 2024 18:18:51 GMT -5
Also, ABS(T) and Espresso were both over 26 weeks on the chart, not just the 20 week threshold from the actual known recurrent rules.
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Post by chickythelittlechicken on Nov 21, 2024 18:25:55 GMT -5
Beautiful Things would be at #8, it has a bullet again 😭😭😭
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Post by nascarsam on Nov 21, 2024 22:56:04 GMT -5
I think Die With A Smile will hold on atleast another week or two because of the record breaking streaming (probably has great call outs at this point too), afterwards I think Stargazing is going to be number one for quite a while. Myles Smith doesn’t have any other songs CHR plays unlike Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars. Taste could get #1 for a week or so somewhere in between but other than that I don’t think any other songs on the chart have #1 potential.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Nov 21, 2024 23:14:06 GMT -5
Not only is that Taylor song fraudulently climbing as per usual, but that Weeknd song is now surging too.
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 22, 2024 4:35:47 GMT -5
Fraudulent = "I don't like this song/artist (usually for petty stan troll reasons or something equally stupid)!"
I'm tired of hearing it.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 22, 2024 7:35:13 GMT -5
So this has me thinking about “Too Sweet”. If this rule was in effect a month ago, “Too Sweet” would’ve gone recurrent when it dropped out of the top 5. And based on the “Heat Waves” and “Levitating” rule, the song has to outpeak the original peak to reenter. Since “Too Sweet” had already hit number one, would it have come back at all? Would we have had a recurrent with more spins than the number one song? Or would #1 peaking songs just have to match their peak in which case “Too Sweet” would have re-entered at number one. Regardless of which scenario would happen, it’s weird. It’s a completely stupid decision. It’s not going to make CHR play newer songs in heavy rotation, it’s just going to mean that songs can get into the top ten now with ridiculously low spin totals. Does a low spin count song deserve to be in the top 10 just because there are 5 dinosaurs in the top 10 that now go recurrent under the new rules? No, I don’t see how it does. CHR obviously doesn’t want to play it like a top ten song at the end of the day. Anyway, it’s also irritating they would mess with the long history of the chart knowing that it will be impossible for most records to ever be broken now. It’s unlikely that any of these points matter when the chart is meant to show the most played currents and the decision was likely made that songs were holding on at higher levels of airplay than ever, thus hindering ‘current’ song performance. These longer lasting songs are likely seen as outliers. They don’t stop existing and the numbers are still recorded on other versions of the chart, just not this one. Songs with certain spin counts “deserving” placements or chart records are all arbitrary things people get from reading the chart and otherwise don’t matter and shouldn’t matter as for how the chart is measured. Also, don’t forget. The chart has has varying levels of recurrent rules. Before it was a top 10 threshold, it was top 20. Before that it was top 25 but only songs 26 weeks or more. Chart records still got broken after those went into place. We could still see longevity records to the point where, in another 5 or 8 years, the rule becomes any song below #1 over a certain number of weeks.
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Post by southerninternal999 on Nov 22, 2024 9:06:53 GMT -5
Are "Please Please Please," "The Door," and "Birds of a Feather" all going recurrent this week based on the new rules? They're all below #5 and have all been on the chart more than 20 weeks. I hope "Disease" doesn't get dropped after only four weeks but I wouldn't be surprised. Interscope doesn't really participate in the radio shenanigans that several other labels do to keep songs that aren't connecting on the charts for 10+ weeks. I actually think the rules were misinterpreted. Of course, I could be misinterpreting them too, but I might as well share my theory. So besides the normal recurrency rule, i believe that there is one for within the top 10. Pretty much same rules as the normal one. After spending 20+ weeks in the top 10 and you're unbulleted, if you're not in the top 5, you're going recurrent. I looked back at the charts to see if there's any evidence to support my claim. And I noticed that Espresso had well over 20 weeks in the top 10 and Bar Song just hit 20 weeks the week before it dropped. Also, if this new rule being spread online was true, then PPP would've gone recurrent alongside Espresso and Bar Song. PPP only has about 18-19 weeks in the top 10 so it'll drop sometime either before the freeze or right after it. The Door only has about 2 weeks in the top 10 right now, so I don't see it going away immediately. And Birds Of A Feather only has about 16 weeks in the top 10, so I think the only way it drops is if it falls out the top 10 or if it's past 20 weeks. And that's my interpretation of this new Mediabase rule. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I just wanted to share how I think this new chart rule works. But at the end of the day(for now), it's just a theory...A MEDIABASE THEORY!
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Post by RoseColoredGirl on Nov 22, 2024 9:35:05 GMT -5
AllAccess is down again, sadly.
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Post by MitchWolf: Super Chart Genius on Nov 22, 2024 9:37:29 GMT -5
AllAccess is down again, sadly. guess this will take all afternoon once again
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 22, 2024 9:38:30 GMT -5
It could just as easily be that they made an additional rule that if you're 25+ weeks on chart and below #5, then you're gone if you're unbulleted (and the new rule has nothing to do with weeks charted in the top 10 specifically).
The thought occurred to me, that they absolutely did not lower the threshold from top 10 to top 5, because if that had been the case then 'Please Please Please' would also have gone recurrent because that song has charted for more than 20 weeks in total and was also outside the top 5. So she beats the 20-week rule by still being top 10, but she would also beat a potential 25-week rule because she hasn't hit that milestone yet.
If it's just a new 25/5 rule, then nothing currently eligible will be going recurrent this week - because none of Billie/Sabrina/Teddy have charted for 25 weeks yet, and Hozier beats it because he'll still be top 5 come Sunday (only Taylor can pass him, and then the next bulleted song after that is The Weeknd, who is several thousand spins away.
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Post by greggpo on Nov 22, 2024 10:18:36 GMT -5
AllAccess is down again, sadly. guess this will take all afternoon once again Strangely just the 7-day report for the Mediabase top 50 is down. The Spincrease and Taking Off are working, and with new today's numbers 11-22 Leaders and Starters: THE MARIAS – No One Notice (119 spins) TATE MCRAE – 2 Hands (112 spins) JONAH MARAIS – Slow Motion (100 spins) BILLIE EILISH - Wildflower (96 spins) GRACIE ARBAMS – I Love You, I’m Sorry (82 Spins) XIN LIU – Take A Slip (69 Spins) JACK HARLOW - Hello Miss Johnson (53 Spins)
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 22, 2024 11:11:27 GMT -5
FRIDAY UPDATE:
2 1 LADY GAGA & BRUNO MARS Die With A Smile 14886 13777 1109 37.175 6 2 MYLES SMITH Stargazing 13732 12579 1153 33.038 4 3 SABRINA CARPENTER Taste 13672 13135 537 37.934 1 4 HOZIER Too Sweet 12857 13957 -1100 31.549 8 5 TAYLOR SWIFT I Can Do It With A Broken Heart 12295 11002 1293 24.245 3 6 BILLIE EILISH BIRDS OF A FEATHER 11883 13143 -1260 33.054 9 7 TEDDY SWIMS The Door 9494 10146 -652 21.728 12 8 THE WEEKND Dancing In The Flames 8702 8177 525 20.662 10 9 SABRINA CARPENTER Please Please Please 8191 9162 -971 22.085 13 10 TATE MCRAE It's ok I'm ok 7660 7383 277 16.771
14 11 CHARLI XCX Apple 6861 6537 324 14.901 15 12 MEGHAN TRAINOR Criminals 6028 5597 431 12.259 11 13 CHAPPELL ROAN HOT TO GO! 5792 8847 -3055 14.581 19 14 ROSE & BRUNO MARS APT 5485 4788 697 14.553 17 15 JELLY ROLL I Am Not Okay 5410 5008 402 9.806 16 16 LADY GAGA Disease 5373 5359 14 11.952 18 17 ADDISON RAE Diet Pepsi 5157 4845 312 9.425 20 18 SABRINA CARPENTER Bed Chem 5062 4580 482 13.238 22 19 GRACIE ABRAMS Close To You 4285 3948 337 8.969 24 20 MGK & JELLY ROLL Lonely Road 3009 2790 219 4.398
25 21 D. GUETTA/ALPHAVILLE/AVA MAX Forever Young 2787 2250 537 5.438 23 22 KHALID Heatstroke 2645 3089 -444 3.386 26 23 KATY PERRY I'm His, He's Mine f/Doechii 2188 2217 -29 3.397 27 24 AKON Akon's Beautiful Day 2172 1883 289 2.954 29 25 DAMIANO DAVID Born With A Broken Heart 2131 1688 443 3.813 30 26 THE WEEKND & PLAYBOI CARTI Timeless 1948 1621 327 4.679 31 27 KOE WETZEL & JESSIE MURPH High Road 1645 1510 135 1.528 32 28 MORGAN WALLEN Love Somebody 1632 1342 290 2.447 33 29 LISA Moonlit Floor (Kiss Me) 1431 1231 200 3.154 28 30 KESHA Joyride 1342 1782 -440 1.529
52 31 GRACIE ABRAMS That's So True 1270 246 1024 3.519 35 32 CHAPPELL ROAN Pink Pony Club 1233 871 362 2.129 34 33 KATSEYE Touch 1208 1217 -9 1.731 41 34 ALEX WARREN Burning Down 1030 637 393 1.890 37 35 KYLIE MINOGUE Lights Camera Action 857 775 82 0.698 38 36 NCT DREAM Rains In Heaven 819 745 74 0.912 36 37 FALLING IN REVERSE/JELLY ROLL All My Life 782 795 -13 0.698 42 38 JENNIE Mantra 731 570 161 0.838 40 39 MEGAN THEE STALLION Mamushi f/Yuki Chiba 647 703 -56 2.834 39 40 CHARLI XCX 360 643 731 -88 1.804
43 41 CAROL DOCHE Montego f/Wiz Khalifa 542 523 19 0.335 44 42 AUDRIIX I Do 510 509 1 0.353 47 43 GIGI PEREZ Sailor Song 464 324 140 0.559 54 44 THE WEEKND Sao Paulo f/Anitta 450 192 258 0.546 46 45 ANSLEY Don Julio 397 363 34 0.252 48 46 JASON DERULO Make Me Happy 297 302 -5 0.590 49 47 PARIS HILTON BBA f/Megan Thee Stallion 292 281 11 0.320 51 48 CARA BLVD 290 250 40 0.087 50 49 LAWRENCE Whatcha Want 198 274 -76 0.116 152 50 THE MARIAS No One Noticed 140 12 128 0.443
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