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Post by Tea-why on Feb 15, 2012 23:38:25 GMT -5
Now let's make all of Mariah's #non #1 to be #1, do that campaign Mariah!!! First stop, "Loverboy" :)
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Post by allow that on Feb 15, 2012 23:40:54 GMT -5
Whitney would have basically had #1 on lock for next wee given the new chart policy, if Katy hadn't gone and released "The One Who Got Away Encore "Part of Me" this week.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 15, 2012 23:43:59 GMT -5
This is so stupid all the fans of certain divas wanting to get higher chart peaks for their old singles.
I *hate* this new development.
All those old Christmas songs should not re-chart each Christmas.
The Billboard 200 each Christmas now has ~50 boring old Christmas albums charting when current acts are pushed right off the Billboard 200.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2012 23:45:29 GMT -5
I'm rooting for you Nippy! Get that 15th week on top! ;) I'm fine if Whitney's IWALY beats Mariah's WBT's 14 weeks record at #1. IWALY is an all time classic! :) Mimi has the record with "One Sweet Day" which spent 16 consecutive weeks at #1 so I wouldn't mind if Whitney got another week . With her increasing recurrent airplay, it's still possible especially since she has another version on iTunes that's selling decently.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2012 23:54:40 GMT -5
Back in the day, Christmas songs did return to the chart year after year. "The Chimpumk Song" had four or five runs on the chart, and who knows how many times "White Christmas" re-charted. Not sure when they stopped that practice. It charted annually through 1962
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2012 23:59:18 GMT -5
This is so stupid all the fans of certain divas wanting to get higher chart peaks for their old singles. I *hate* this new development. All those old Christmas songs should not re-chart each Christmas. The Billboard 200 each Christmas now has ~50 boring old Christmas albums charting when current acts are pushed right off the Billboard 200. Diva movements of this type would have to be widespread enough that it goes beyond message boards. So people here can try and wish their favorit Mariah song to #1 by downloading it repeatedly but they will need a lot of help
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 15, 2012 23:59:21 GMT -5
Because of their annual recurrent nature, holiday songs may be exempt from the rule. We'll see.
And, yeah- the higher-peaks-for-old-tracks talk is kinda silly- but, some of the fans are just joking, I'd think. :)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2012 23:59:42 GMT -5
This is so stupid all the fans of certain divas wanting to get higher chart peaks for their old singles. I *hate* this new development. All those old Christmas songs should not re-chart each Christmas. The Billboard 200 each Christmas now has ~50 boring old Christmas albums charting when current acts are pushed right off the Billboard 200. The same thing potentially will now happen on the Hot 100; at least in the top 50 of the chart. Older songs will push current songs further down or right off the chart.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 0:00:52 GMT -5
I'm fine if Whitney's IWALY beats Mariah's WBT's 14 weeks record at #1. IWALY is an all time classic! :) Mimi has the record with "One Sweet Day" which spent 16 consecutive weeks at #1 so I wouldn't mind if Whitney got another week . With her increasing recurrent airplay, it's still possible especially since she has another version on iTunes that's selling decently. This record is safe
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 16, 2012 0:02:35 GMT -5
Didn't the novelty '80s hit "Tarzan Boy" by Baltimora chart twice?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 0:04:20 GMT -5
Novelty?
Yes it did but not top 10
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 16, 2012 0:04:33 GMT -5
all in all, this change in chart policy DEFINITELY makes things exciting, when chart after chart after chart, it's always the same, boring top 10, week after week. At least this spices things up for us chart nerds. This is like a whole new beginning. :)
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 16, 2012 0:05:03 GMT -5
The song is total novelty from start to finish.... "Jungle life!"
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Post by imbondz on Feb 16, 2012 0:05:16 GMT -5
Didn't the novelty '80s hit "Tarzan Boy" by Baltimora chart twice? lol. yes, but I believe it was re-released to radio by their label. lot's of songs in the '80's were re-released after initial poor chart performances. Red Red Wine Into The Night What About Me those come to mind
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Post by imbondz on Feb 16, 2012 0:08:40 GMT -5
So what they just gave us, is not a "True Hot 100" but what we have now is a "TRUE top 50" ha when you word it that way it sounds bad. but overall I do like it. what's it going to hurt? Jeff Buckley's Hallelujah has definitely been one of the more popular songs over the past 3-4 years, but never reflected in the charts. why not? now songs like that can. American Idol is possibly going to make the charts crazy.
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Post by imbondz on Feb 16, 2012 0:10:27 GMT -5
Thank you for the "Into the Groove" acknowledgement, ry4n. No. 1 would have been a good possibility, but most definitely top 10 (and top 5) if Billboard charted the 12-inch as it did on the R&B chart. Whitney probably won't have a *new* top 10 this decade, though, unless one of the Sparkle tracks has decent airplay and sales. MJ's posthumous releases didn't really set the singles charts on fire. it's not a matter of if it would have, but how long it would have. I bet Into The Groove would have had a 10 week reign. that song was huge for a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 0:10:36 GMT -5
Any TV performance driven song will now chart - yes
So we will see several songs a year reenter for 2 weeks at a time
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Post by leoapp on Feb 16, 2012 0:10:54 GMT -5
Now let's make all of Mariah's #non #1 to be #1, do that campaign Mariah!!! First stop, "Loverboy" :) And then Shake It Off And don't forget, the robed #1 hit #2 hit, Can't Let Go
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Post by imbondz on Feb 16, 2012 0:12:55 GMT -5
couldn't The Greatest Love of All just debuted at #40. ugh.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 16, 2012 0:14:57 GMT -5
imbondz, "Groove" did spend six weeks atop Variety's singles sales chart (which surveyed the top 25 markets)- so who knows- and the 12-inch shipped more than 600,000 units. Sire/WB didn't properly promote it to radio- per an article in Billboard, stations that played it taped it off of MTV until the 12-inch single was released. LOL
What other non-holiday songs in the past several years fared well enough to chart- potentially- inside the top 50? Aside from Michael Jackson tracks and "Hallelujah," I recall Tom Petty's "Free Fallin' " after the Super Bowl and, of course, Journey's "Don't Stop Believin." Others? Tracks like Usher's "yeah!" logged a huge amount of time on Digital Songs, but I don't know if most of those weekly sales would have been enough for top 50.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 0:16:26 GMT -5
AI songs, grammy performances, anything on TV
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 0:16:57 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Etta James, and Amy Winehouse could have charted
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Post by imbondz on Feb 16, 2012 0:18:04 GMT -5
Somewhere Over The Rainbow / What A Wonderful World by the Hawaiian dude. Israel Kalkjaiiiwalawaawaawa would have definitely charted
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Post by leoapp on Feb 16, 2012 0:18:14 GMT -5
What other non-holiday songs in the past several years fared well enough to chart- potentially- inside the top 50? Aside from Michael Jackson tracks and "Hallelujah," I recall Tom Petty's "Free Fallin' " after the Super Bowl and, of course, Journey's "Don't Stop Believin." Others? Tracks like Usher's "yeah!" logged a huge amount of time on Digital Songs, but I don't know if most of those weekly sales would have been enough for top 50. Chris Brown's Forever after that popular wedding video?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 16, 2012 0:18:18 GMT -5
^Well, if they're older tracks performed on AI- same for Grammys performances. Newer tracks performed on TV remain unaffected. Did "Somewhere Over The Rainbow / What A Wonderful World" have any real big sales weeks, or just a lot sold over time? With little airplay, a track probably would need to sell 50K or more in a week?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 0:21:00 GMT -5
I think it sold a little over a long period of time
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Post by imbondz on Feb 16, 2012 0:21:01 GMT -5
^Well, if they're older tracks performed on AI- same for Grammys performances. Newer tracks performed on TV remain unaffected. Did "Somewhere Over The Rainbow / What A Wonderful World" have any real big sales weeks, or just a lot sold over time? With little airplay, a track probably would need to sell 50K or more in a week? it reached at least #9 on iTunes during 1 week period
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 0:22:36 GMT -5
17 total weeks in the top 75 digital songs peaking at #11 following an Idol broadcast in 2008
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Post by allow that on Feb 16, 2012 0:25:48 GMT -5
Yeah so many random old songs performed on American Idol or featured in a commercial are going to chart now, even it they only stay in the #41-50 range for a week or two.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 16, 2012 0:28:06 GMT -5
Yeah so many random old songs performed on American Idol or featured in a commercial are going to chart now, even it they only stay in the #41-50 range for a week or two. We need to know the qualification for audience numbers though. Would the minimum number be 5 or 10 million to be able to rechart?
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