einstein
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Post by einstein on Mar 11, 2012 3:09:10 GMT -5
I think she can be more comparable to Jewel than Norah Jones. Jewel had one of the biggest female albums of all time, songs that clicked with the public and this whole singer-songwriter thing. 15 years later, she's still around, but obviously unable to replicate the success she had.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 8:02:05 GMT -5
I hope she takes 5 years off and forgets to come back.
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Post by Ferrero on Mar 11, 2012 11:18:04 GMT -5
But as a singer/songwriter Mariah also gets play on other formats (hip hop/Rnb, UAC, etc) that Adele will never get played on it is a null point including her in that group. I believe his point is simply that Mariah is generally not perceived as a singer-songwriter, which is unfortunately true. It annoys me but outside of her fanbase and people on music boards (where her fans will be quick to correct someone and point it out) a lot of people either don't know she is a writer or don't really think much of her contribution to her songs. Her labels never really played up that aspect when marketing her. As far as Adele, she'll have a career for as long as she wants one and I'm sure she'll always be an awards darling. But I would expect a career most similar to Norah's (huge and unexpected album success followed by albums that sell much less, but still do respectably well for whatever the sales climate is at the time). Norah has released four solo studio albums and they are, in order: 10x platinum, 5x platinum, 2x platinum, and 1x platinum. Norah typically receives minimal promotion. For the type of artist she is and the fact that she doesn't necessarily care for being the hugest star in the world, this is not a problem. Other than probably continuing to have greater singles success than Norah ever had, I see Adele's commercial trajectory being much similar to that. The era of the ever-dominating superstar (Michael, Janet, Madonna, Whitney, Mariah, Celine) is over as far as I can tell. I just don't see the industry every producing someone who consistently dominates in album sales and/or singles over the course of a decade or more like that ever again. For Mimi, i believe some credibility as a songwriter is taken away from the lawsuits filed against her over the years And i agree and don't agree with you.. the era Superstar era is gone but i can see the business model changing to what the Koreans are doing now... if that happens we may see millions selling singles every week
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 11:20:16 GMT -5
Mariah isn't taken seriously as a songwriter because she wears tiny outfits, has giant boobs, and big blonde hair.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 13:41:55 GMT -5
Mariah isn't taken seriously as a songwriter because she wears tiny outfits, has giant boobs, and big blonde hair. Why did I have an image of Dolly Parton in my head instead of Mariah while reading this post? sorry, carry on y'all.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 11, 2012 20:56:20 GMT -5
I think when people think of "singer/songwriter", they think more of the associated genre of it. It seems that it is considered a genre of music by some people rather than a literal act of singing the songs you write.
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Post by spooky21 on Mar 12, 2012 5:08:12 GMT -5
Mariah isn't taken seriously as a songwriter because she wears tiny outfits, has giant boobs, and big blonde hair. Why did I have an image of Dolly Parton in my head instead of Mariah while reading this post? sorry, carry on y'all.Seriously, you are right. When history looks back, Mariah would more closely be aligned with the likes of Dolly Parton, than of a Carole King (not that it is a bad thing.) Once her mainstream commercial career is over, it would be interesting to see which genre or what approach she takes on writing music. Dolly stuck with country but I don't see Mariah being viable in mainstream R/B, unless she's writing for other people.
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