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Post by slw84 on Feb 15, 2012 18:34:56 GMT -5
WTF. This can't be possible... Then again, the Grammys were their second highest rated this year, ever, and she and Whitney were the two big stories surrounding the Grammys. Still, this just seems impossible. She's defying everything anyone predicted would happen this decade in terms of album sales. and the album isn't even that great, imo. Sigh...some people.
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Post by Caviar on Feb 15, 2012 20:12:15 GMT -5
Where does 21 stand now? Is it 6.4?? I've lost track.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Feb 15, 2012 20:13:47 GMT -5
Where does 21 stand now? Is it 6.4?? I've lost track. It's just above 6.6 million.
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Post by DJ General on Feb 15, 2012 22:24:15 GMT -5
I knew she would go Diamond!!! How amazing. Whitney Houston dying totally propelled her album. 13 million extra viewers tuned in because of her death and Adele benefited.
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Post by leoapp on Feb 15, 2012 22:25:31 GMT -5
Unbelievable, this is so going diamond at least by mid 2013!
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Post by DJ General on Feb 15, 2012 22:38:49 GMT -5
Unbelievable, this is so going diamond at least by mid 2013! It will probably be diamond by June of this year
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Post by frashcoholic on Feb 15, 2012 22:40:23 GMT -5
and the album isn't even that great, imo. Sigh...some people. he just doesn't know the definition of "great"
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Post by dgarcia3377 on Feb 15, 2012 23:20:15 GMT -5
600k? WOW This is very exciting!!
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Feb 15, 2012 23:23:17 GMT -5
The album is a bit bland for my liking, but her success is striking.
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Post by wolfmother on Feb 15, 2012 23:34:05 GMT -5
Exactly, she etablished herself in a genre does give you the career she has enjoyed, her level of success for some classified in the jazz genre has been very impressive, but what differs with Adele is that she is having an era bigger than that of Norah, "21" total sales will surpass those of "Come away with me" soon, She's not quite up to Norah's total sales yet. That album was a monster and is still selling bucket loads in catalog. However, with a fourth single and some actual touring, Adele could do it. More power to her. Could do it ??? Norah's album achieved its sales in a much ealthier album sales climate, in a span of time way longer that Adele as taken so far to achieve 6.6 million sales in the USA, hence the much more extraordinary chart run so far, next week she is likely going to sell 600K, puting "21" at 7.2 million copies sold. It will then most likely hit the 10 million mark by year-end, in a more and more countries around the world "21" is now ahead of "Come away with me", sometimes by a landslide like in the UK or Ireland, it has done so in the netherlands, Australia, Belgium and will do so by year end in France, New Zeland, Canada and many others too. So the use of "could" is out of touch, it's not a possibility, but you can consider it a fact, "21" is way bigger smash than "Come away with me" which was already a big success story and did some incredible things too, especially for a Pop-Jazz album. But "21" is having a success story miles ahead of that of "Come away with me", first the chart runs are incomparable, Adele's album has set lendmarks in a lot of countries, the cumulative #1 placing around the world is very rare, and it's not done yet, she's going to add more, and that album has done so with 3 singles being successfull everwhere or pretty much so, selling extraordinaruly too at the same time the album was selling like hot cakes too, in the UK for exemple this is already the biggest studio album of all time, if you cumulate its sales with those of its singles. Only a handfull of albums over the world have done the same trick. And now it is even making waves in Japan, if it's succeed there, then 30 milllions copies worlwide is indeed the next target.
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Post by imbondz on Feb 16, 2012 0:15:20 GMT -5
the problem with comparing album sales now is piracy. there's no telling how huge 21 would be right now if it wasn't for illegal downloads. I would bet 10 million easily already.
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Post by cking33 on Feb 16, 2012 0:16:41 GMT -5
This has been mentioned, but I think a big reason for this spike is the fact that 40 million people saw the Grammys this year. That's about double, if I'm not mistaken, of what the Grammys do on a year-to-year basis. I don't know how many people have illegally downloaded Adele's album, but well over 30 million people who didn't own the album legitimately tuned it to see her clean house and perform. I wonder what the difference would've been in her post-Grammy spike if if this was a normal year with normal ratings.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Feb 16, 2012 1:08:12 GMT -5
Didn't Adele also do an interview on 60 Minutes before the Grammys? That definitely introduced her to a new demographic/audience. Plus, I have to say her performance was captivating. It just shows how something simple can be effective - except Adele has done it three times - the MTV performance - the SFTR video and, now RITD at Grammys. 21 is a special album.
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Post by singingsparrow on Feb 16, 2012 1:42:53 GMT -5
I knew she would go Diamond!!! How amazing. Whitney Houston dying totally propelled her album. 13 million extra viewers tuned in because of her death and Adele benefited. I take offense to the idea that Houston's death was the root cause of Adele's own success. Adele already resoundingly proved her mettle prior to the Grammy Awards. Regardless of how many mostly tuned in out of curiosity of what thoughtful tribute they might produce in honor of Houston, virtually everyone predicted Adele to sweep the top three categories, and with that a sales surge was inevitable. Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 1:48:17 GMT -5
Weren't people also trying to say that Amy's death helped Adele's success
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Post by singingsparrow on Feb 16, 2012 2:15:13 GMT -5
Weren't people also trying to say that Amy's death helped Adele's success Or Etta James? ;) Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 2:19:40 GMT -5
Weren't people also trying to say that Amy's death helped Adele's success Or Etta James? ;) Namaste, lisping HIBISCUS Nope. But Flo Rida was.....Seriously. And I'm losing hope for humanity.
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Post by BlueSwan on Feb 16, 2012 3:28:06 GMT -5
The album is a bit bland for my liking, but her success is striking. I agree. I'm totally 100% rooting for her. I want her to break all the records, basically, so I'm definitely not a hater. I love Someone Like You, Rolling In The Deep and Rumour Has It (never really liked Set Fire To The Rain much, although the remix is good). I also liked several of the 19 singles. But aside from those, I find the album itself fairly boring. But great if people enjoy it.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Feb 16, 2012 6:00:09 GMT -5
this is beyond amazing.
21 will go diamond.
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Post by Enigma. on Feb 16, 2012 6:33:49 GMT -5
It's been fairly obvious for a while that '21' will cross the 10m mark at some point. But I still dare to think it's not going to happen this year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 8:01:07 GMT -5
Right - I think people are just getting excited because of the grammy weeks. This will return to 80-100K a week soon enough
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Post by livelikedying111 on Feb 16, 2012 8:40:22 GMT -5
Those 80K-100K are nothing no be upset about, and of course those are the sales what will eventually carry her to the diamond threshold (I do believe that's gonna happen, but it's hard for me to believe that if it does happen - it will be in a time that I saw it happening in real time).
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Post by popstop on Feb 16, 2012 9:09:02 GMT -5
Isn't Adele standing at 7M now? 80K a week would be enough for her to hit diamond status by the end of the year.
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Post by Envoirment on Feb 16, 2012 9:17:03 GMT -5
Isn't Adele standing at 7M now? 80K a week would be enough for her to hit diamond status by the end of the year. She's at ~6.6mil as of now and will be ~7.2mil+ after this week. The album has yet to have a week below 75k. And with Adele's voice back, we should see more promo for the album and the 4th single.
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Post by Caviar on Feb 16, 2012 9:20:25 GMT -5
She's going diamond this year especially if "Turning Tables" is the being released. We STILL have the holidays later this year that will carry it beyond diamond.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 9:23:47 GMT -5
Isn't Adele standing at 7M now? 80K a week would be enough for her to hit diamond status by the end of the year. Then we also assume 80K a week for an album in its second year and about to launch its 4th single will continue forever
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Post by Envoirment on Feb 16, 2012 9:32:15 GMT -5
Isn't Adele standing at 7M now? 80K a week would be enough for her to hit diamond status by the end of the year. Then we also assume 80K a week for an album in its second year and about to launch its 4th single will continue forever After this week, there will be 44 more weeks left of the year I think. For it to go diamond it will need to sell on average ~64k a week (assuming its sales will be 7.2mil after this week). I think that is definitely possibly. It's also an average, so if it sells over 64k in a given week, that will lower the amount it will have to sell each subsequent week to reach diamond.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2012 9:41:54 GMT -5
Once this starts selling like a second year album (and it will eventually), you could see levels lower than 10K
Say the 4th single dries up and they do not promote a 5th, people may end up moving on to something newer and the current pace will slow down
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Post by Envoirment on Feb 16, 2012 9:47:21 GMT -5
Once this starts selling like a second year album (and it will eventually), you could see levels lower than 10K Say the 4th single dries up and they do not promote a 5th, people may end up moving on to something newer and the current pace will slow down I get what you're saying and that could definitely happen. However, the album could also sell over 100k a week for the rest of the year for all we know. What I've learnt from this era is to never doubt it. The only way we are really going to see how this turns out is to wait till the end of the year. It sure is exciting though!
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Post by Ragin on Feb 16, 2012 9:49:58 GMT -5
Interesting question. Norah sold so, so, so much but it really feels like she fell off the map in every way possible. I don't really see anyone saying she is a legend or loving her on top 100 female lists or anything. I feel like Alanis even gets more attention still and she only had one huge album as well. BUt people argue against Alanis being a legend as well. It isn't just sales that makes a legend and I guess it really depends. If you look at the chosen people who are accepted as legends not all of them had one hugely successful cd. On the flip side, some people who did have hugely successful cds or one cd are pretty much forgotten now. I suppose if I had to put my money down on someone I would put it on Adele as a good possibility of becoming a legend and it isn't entirely just her sales that makes me feel that way. Yet I've seen Norah Jones in concert since she "fell off the map" and I have to say I think she has a much better chance of standing the test of time and becoming a legend than anyone else mentioned so far.
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