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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 25, 2012 16:26:03 GMT -5
For some reason I thought the adds date was now. So, now I am less worried! Of course, it would be better if it had at least broke top 250 on ITunes, but anything can still happen.
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Post by Jay on May 25, 2012 16:46:16 GMT -5
This will smash. Of course this isn't going to be racing up iTunes with absolutely no airplay to back it up. She's really only done one (and a third) promotional performance of this so far. I know some people are anxious to call this a flop to prove their predictions right, but I'm sure the future success of this incredible song will speak for itself. And let's not forget that a slow start =/= flop. This isn't a Katy Perry or Lady Gaga single where you can expect huge gains right out of the gate. She will get there at her own pace.
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Post by neally on May 25, 2012 16:58:11 GMT -5
I think this may further validate iJustin's point about the necessity of airplay:
If the UK sales trajectory is in any way predictive of the US, 'Dark Side' will be just fine. It was was #290 just 5 days ago and is already up to #118 (in fact up 55 spots in the past 24 hours alone) on the iTunes all-genre singles chart, based on radio airplay and release of the video. The position of 'Dark Side' on the UK Radio Airplay Charts is up 186 spots in the past 2 weeks.
Of note, Kelly has some good promo lined up in the UK in June, so watch it continue to rise there as well....
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Post by Au$tin on May 25, 2012 17:32:59 GMT -5
^Doesn't the big increase on UK iTunes really show the effect of the music video, since it's up 55 spots in the past 24 hours?
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Post by ElijahWood on May 25, 2012 17:48:41 GMT -5
I feel like Einstein genuinely may be the gem everyone is overlooking. This!! At first the lyrics made me cringe a little, but I quickly get over that, with the song as a whole being ridiculously catchy and all. I think the song screams "summer", is a nice followup with a similar flow to 'WDKY', and is one of those songs that will bombard Facebook with lyrical status updates. If 'Einstein' did great and became a nice summer jam it would build a much better platform for a more "risky" Kelly single in the fall such as 'Dark Side' (which I feel is more of a fall single, anyways). Not that we can do anything about it now. lol.
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Post by kmbgs on May 25, 2012 17:58:53 GMT -5
Let Me Down will not let anyone down...
But this is just starting #soeverybodythatsfreakingoutneedstocalmthefuckdown
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Post by clarksonnumber1 on May 25, 2012 18:14:42 GMT -5
I want I Forgive You it just screams hit, but I want this to do well and I am starting to get alittle scared. Stronger rocketed just because of a 15 second commercial, but it was played everywhere. I think it was after the Saturday Night Live performance that What Doesn't Kill You gained a lot of momentum on iTunes. It was more than just the commercial.
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Post by KMJ1 on May 25, 2012 18:59:57 GMT -5
i dont dislike this song but am not feeling much either. its 'pleasant' like MKIA lol. I wouldnt turn it off on the radio =). Obviously (hope im wrong) it doesnt reek from smash in any way but I hope it does alright enough so Let Me Down can see the light of day. That just sounds like such an 'instant' future hit which would hit harder and quicker than DS :/ sorry
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Post by nighttime on May 26, 2012 1:25:55 GMT -5
I also agree that there were a few songs on the album that would've been better suited to be the follow-up to "Stronger". I like "Dark Side", and I'm usually for artists releasing less obvious single choices, but I don't feel the release was that necessary from an artistic stand-point particularly after seeing the phoned-in video. However I'd still like to see this do well so hopefully it'll surprise.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on May 26, 2012 9:42:11 GMT -5
well i'm glad this single will be in her catalogue, no matter what happens.
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Post by themagic on May 26, 2012 12:52:51 GMT -5
Again this is Pulse Music Board, it's wise to not listen to the negative flop speeches.
This shall smash!
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Post by josh on May 26, 2012 13:29:24 GMT -5
As of the 5/25 Pop update, this is nowhere to be found in the top 275 songs, which means this has less than 5 spins in the past 7 days.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on May 26, 2012 13:35:16 GMT -5
This is getting scary. Ten days until adds. Godspeed, Kelly.
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Post by Snowbeast on May 26, 2012 16:08:10 GMT -5
I personally think "I Forgive You" sounds a bit too dated. I'd rather have "Let Me Down" and "You Love Me" before "I Forgive You" any day. If there's any song on the album that sounds dated, it's Let Me Down. I think Dark Side was the best choice. It's not all that different from Stronger. It has that pop/rock origin modified by a current instrumental and a big chorus.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2012 16:57:54 GMT -5
I'm going to laugh at all the naysayers when this suddenly takes off out of the blue.
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Post by bigb0882 on May 26, 2012 16:59:35 GMT -5
This is getting scary. Ten days until adds. Godspeed, Kelly. Look, with very few exceptions radio has always played Kelly's singles. They almost always go to the top 20 at least. This is coming off of a huge mega smash so there is no reason that radio will just ignore this. Not to mention this is a perfectly decent song (great song, IMO) and I don't think anyone thinks this song is so horrible that radio will refuse to spin it. It is going to get played, it may be a slow grower but it will get there. I can't guarantee #1 or even top 10 but it WILL do something. Just wait and see.
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Post by Grün on May 26, 2012 17:19:15 GMT -5
Well if it truly tanks no one can say anything. It was well promoted and got an amazing shot.
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Post by Stefan85 on May 26, 2012 17:29:29 GMT -5
I'm getting ScreenCap ready....
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Post by SPRΞΞ on May 26, 2012 17:38:08 GMT -5
yea, it's a great song, so i'm not worried at all, ESPECIALLY coming off a #1 on both the Hot 100 and CHR. If there's 10 days until the adds date, then that's fine. That's a long ways away yet for everyone to be panicking.
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Post by ƒreakshow on May 26, 2012 18:20:56 GMT -5
I will admit I am a little concerned seeing such little interest for it at this point, but as a few of us have mentioned, radio usually always supports Kelly. I can't imagine them paying little to no attention to a song that follows one of the biggest hits of the year and has the support of the label behind it. It should at least get a top 30 peak. Lots of people are saying this song is the wrong choice for this time of year, but I don't believe seasons and times of year will make or break a song's success, so I definitely won't be using that excuse if this fails to meet expectations. This sounds like a hit to my ears, and I'm going to keep up the faith that it'll become one, even if it takes longer than many of us anticipated. This will have a very interesting chart run, that's for sure.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on May 26, 2012 18:23:11 GMT -5
This is getting scary. Ten days until adds. Godspeed, Kelly. Look, with very few exceptions radio has always played Kelly's singles. They almost always go to the top 20 at least. This is coming off of a huge mega smash so there is no reason that radio will just ignore this. Not to mention this is a perfectly decent song (great song, IMO) and I don't think anyone thinks this song is so horrible that radio will refuse to spin it. It is going to get played, it may be a slow grower but it will get there. I can't guarantee #1 or even top 10 but it WILL do something. Just wait and see. I have plenty of faith in it. I'm a little just confused, and, yes, slightly nervous about what's happening so far with this song.
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Post by Jay on May 26, 2012 18:34:06 GMT -5
Maybe RCA took a little too long to get this out there. It would've been nice for it to have some airplay before all these promotional events.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on May 26, 2012 19:09:55 GMT -5
Eh, I don't know. We've certainly learned that a huge smash doesn't guarantee anything for a followup, or even a string of huge smashes. Rihanna followed Only Girl, What's My Name, S&M, Cheers and biggest of all, We Found Love with two underperforming singles - You Da One and Talk That Talk. Britney followed 3, Hold It Against Me, Til the World Ends and I Wanna Go with the underperforming Criminal. You just never know. Nothing is guaranteed because of previous successes.
I'm a bit nervous for this. I don't think it would be in the best interest of album sales and the era in general to have another slow Mr. Know it All run, or anything less. There are certainly other pop smashes waiting to happen, IMO songs that are much more suited to radio for the summer, but they won't have momentum on their side like Dark Side does. I'm pretty shocked that it's DOA 10 days before the adds date, with a video and two promo performances. I hope we see it take off soon.
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Post by clem on May 26, 2012 20:23:38 GMT -5
Well if it truly tanks no one can say anything. except "I told you so," maybe...
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Post by Scotty on May 26, 2012 21:45:45 GMT -5
I'm sure most of us here would have wanted Dark Side to do well out of the gate; I definitely did. What I want to say is that initially, like many of you, I had my hopes set on a smash hit single to follow up on Stronger, and this seemed like the perfect solution. Often I think this is a trap that we fall into, when we get hyped up about a song as a collective group of fans about a great song. Obviously, it's much too early to determine how well this will fare on Pop (we're behind the adds date), but I wouldn't exactly set the bar so high either. The lack of pretty much any significant response to this song by radio and digital sales doesn't exactly bode well for this song, but we've all seen this kind of thing in the early stages of some of the biggest hits in the past few years. When you actually genuinely give this track a listen, it doesn't exactly have the words "smash hit" written all over it, and it is also not totally radio-friendly but that might just be an opinion. My view of this is that it won't exactly be the big hit we're all hoping for, but it will peak decently. Coming off of one of the biggest hits of the year, it's really hard to imagine that her follow-up will suddenly flop, especially considering it has the same kind of feel as its predecessor (aside from it being a great song) and honestly, I'll be shocked if it doesn't manage to enter the Top 20 (Pop). What I will say is that Dark Side definitely wastes no time in impressing people; it's the kind of song that really captures you without really having to let it grow (obviously this can't be true for everyone) probably because it does have a straightforward pop sound yet is unique enough to stand out without sounding too generic. Lots of people are saying this song is the wrong choice for this time of year, but I don't believe seasons and times of year will make or break a song's success, so I definitely won't be using that excuse if this fails to meet expectations. This sounds like a hit to my ears, and I'm going to keep up the faith that it'll become one, even if it takes longer than many of us anticipated. This will have a very interesting chart run, that's for sure. Yes! Really, they share some really similar structures including the explosive chorus on the vocal and production scale versus a really tame first verse and more pumped-up second verse. My thoughts dwell on whether or not this kind of similarity has caused pop radio to inadvertently distance itself from a track that shares these things with a track it just sent to number one? Maybe we just need time for Stronger to drop down a little further.
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Post by josh on May 26, 2012 23:09:09 GMT -5
361 631 CLARKSON, KELLY Dark Side 1 2 -1 0.003
At least it has a spin??
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Post by SPRΞΞ on May 27, 2012 0:51:33 GMT -5
That IS pretty crazy it only has 1 spin on pop. Where is all the A.I. coming from? HAC? What's the update on that?
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 27, 2012 1:02:09 GMT -5
It is sort of annoying to me that this little interest is being shown at this point when like...unreleased songs or songs without an adds date or songs with an adds date far in the future by other artists in similar situations are getting significantly more attention. Like...at least 30 spins or something It will get a big push with the adds date though.
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Post by clarksonnumber1 on May 27, 2012 7:11:52 GMT -5
New York City has been very good to Kelly. I think some of their stations will start playing it soon, and others will follow. I'm known to be negative, but I don't see a reason to be pessimistic yet.
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Post by itsaboutart on May 27, 2012 9:30:40 GMT -5
Dark side is a song that is trying too hard. She clearly has a marvellous voice (truly!) but for a song about exploring and accepting the darkness in ourselves the lyrics are pretty cliched. It's like dumb alanis at least stronger felt feisty. This one is so blaze. She doesn't deserve a hit just because she is Kelly clarkson. It's just not that good.
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