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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 13, 2012 19:42:48 GMT -5
I remember everyone calling idnhu a disappointment and I swear it sold over 700k not maybe 500k?
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Post by josh on Aug 13, 2012 19:44:44 GMT -5
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 13, 2012 19:50:38 GMT -5
Thanks!!! So I was close ha ha.
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Post by brod on Aug 13, 2012 22:41:40 GMT -5
LOL Are people looking at the same numbers I am?? Dark Side might not be a smash, but it has helped the album sell consistently week after week, staying in the 40s/50s. According to early Hits Daily Double numbers, it has an excellent shot of jumping back into the top 50. Looking at the Billboard chart from last week, it might have been #57 but there are only a handful of albums above it that have spent more weeks on the chart than Stronger. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I'd say the single is more than doing its job.
Also, I Forgive You will never and would have never been a hit single...
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Post by slamina on Aug 13, 2012 23:06:43 GMT -5
LOL Are people looking at the same numbers I am?? Dark Side might not be a smash, but it has helped the album sell consistently week after week, staying in the 40s/50s. According to early Hits Daily Double numbers, it has an excellent shot of jumping back into the top 50. Looking at the Billboard chart from last week, it might have been #57 but there are only a handful of albums above it that have spent more weeks on the chart than Stronger. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I'd say the single is more than doing its job. Also, I Forgive You will never and would have never been a hit single... Underperforming? Really??? Unfortunately, neither will "Dark Side" it seems. :(
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Post by james on Aug 13, 2012 23:06:55 GMT -5
If you're strictly talking sales though, I don't remember anyone saying it was a huge disappointment when IDNHU sold that much? I'm talking overall performance. I'm not saying "Dark Side" is the biggest disappointment of her entire career but relative to her recent success it certainly underperformed. Am I wrong? It has underperformed, sure. But for a song to be selling 50K a week with Kelly's amount of airplay is impressive. She has never been a big digital seller throughout her career. So for the song to be sticking in the top 30 is rather impressive considering the song is a song burner. Remember M.K.I.A moved extremely slowly digitally and that had mass promotion and the benefit of release well before the album came out. Dark Side has been a real disappointment internationally, though.
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Post by Honeymoon on Aug 13, 2012 23:37:31 GMT -5
I'm talking overall performance. I'm not saying "Dark Side" is the biggest disappointment of her entire career but relative to her recent success it certainly underperformed. Am I wrong? It has underperformed, sure. But for a song to be selling 50K a week with Kelly's amount of airplay is impressive. She has never been a big digital seller throughout her career. So for the song to be sticking in the top 30 is rather impressive considering the song is a song burner. Remember M.K.I.A moved extremely slowly digitally and that had mass promotion and the benefit of release well before the album came out. Dark Side has been a real disappointment internationally, though. Okay fair enough if it's a slow burner and is top ten in November. I'll swallow my words if that happens. I was actually one of the ones saying "Dark Side" needed to be a single - and admittedly I was wrong. But all you have to do is read the first few pages of this thread and see just about everyone (with the exception of one or two) predicting this to go top ten at pop and top 10/15 on the Hot 100. People were expecting this to do better. I'm not calling it a flop but let's not brand this as some sort of satisfactory performance after what the expectations were and the bar that was set by the previous two singles. Again, we'll wait and see but it isn't looking too rosy and I think they're better off releasing a fourth single ASAP instead of watching the album slip lower on the BB 200
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Post by G-Reg on Aug 14, 2012 0:37:20 GMT -5
You guys are all just upset because the song is getting bad updates and might be peaking (or might not be.) I hope this will make you feel better Kelly is awesome.
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Post by clarksonnumber1 on Aug 14, 2012 9:24:52 GMT -5
Also, I Forgive You will never and would have never been a hit single... If it had been the first single(as I think it should have been), it's safe to say it would have peaked at seventh or higher on the Pop charts. It had little chance of living up to the success of What Doesn't Kill You, but to claim it had no chance of being a hit is outrageous.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Aug 14, 2012 12:45:09 GMT -5
Anyone have an update for today?
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Aug 14, 2012 12:51:15 GMT -5
22 = KELLY CLARKSON Dark Side 3127 157 18.311 +8 spins -3 bullet -0.101 AI
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Post by Grün on Aug 14, 2012 13:10:58 GMT -5
22 = KELLY CLARKSON Dark Side 3127 157 18.311 +8 spins -3 bullet -0.101 AI :( Dont run away, promise you'll stay.
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Post by Almost Honest on Aug 14, 2012 13:21:13 GMT -5
LOL the song isn't dead and it is not "killing" the era. If we are all so worried about this song's chart performance we could all you know actually call and request the song on our radio stations or go to VH1 and vote it up on the charts. That's what the true Kelly fans will do anyway. I remember when I was naive and thought that that's all it took. LOL I'm not completely delusional (yet). But every little bit helps. Anyway, I guess I don't consider this song that much of a disappointment yet since most of the radio stations around where I live have been playing the song like crazy.
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Post by Lozzy on Aug 15, 2012 5:37:23 GMT -5
22 22 KELLY CLARKSON Dark Side 3125 3042 83 18.177
– 2 Spins – 74 Bullet – 0.134 Audience
oh. :(
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Post by josh on Aug 15, 2012 9:49:50 GMT -5
Was there a panel change? Songs at the top had bigger losses than normal or a big loss even if still gaining a little... Didn't affect the lower songs much, but this probably got a little lost because of that.
Well now I'm not so sure. Katy and Ellie's big losses were very sudden and Call Me Maybe had its biggest loss yet by far, but then Titanium had a huge update...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 10:16:13 GMT -5
There was not a panel change.
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Post by josh on Aug 15, 2012 10:19:38 GMT -5
There was not a panel change. Yeah, the rest of the chart seemed fine. Just odd some songs suddenly had huge losses that they normally weren't. Oh well.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 15, 2012 10:29:07 GMT -5
time for I Forgive You!! :)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 10:30:31 GMT -5
:( Should be a top 10 song! Oh well still doesn't affect how much I love it <3
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Aug 15, 2012 10:53:26 GMT -5
There was not a panel change. Yeah, the rest of the chart seemed fine. Just odd some songs suddenly had huge losses that they normally weren't. Oh well. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's due to Taylor stealing some time & AI away from everybody... TAYLOR SWIFT - We Are Never Ever Getting...: 50.114 (+ 44.164) :(
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 15, 2012 11:01:49 GMT -5
I agree. Event singles that get this many spins this fast usually hurt two types of songs-smash hits that are at the end of their run (Ellie/Katy) and songs that are struggling to gain momentum and have been for awhile (Kelly). It is feasible that Taylor's massive debut ate some spins for those songs. I was sort of worried for Kelly for that reason especially with a ton of Fall releases gearing up soon. That made Kelly slowly peaking in December never having a bullet bigger than +200 a bit far-fetched to me.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 15, 2012 18:32:42 GMT -5
Why did Taylor Swift have to exist? Mr. & Mrs. Swift had unprotected sex.
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Post by nick64 on Aug 15, 2012 18:34:33 GMT -5
I can't honestly blame this on Taylor. Dark Side hasn't gotten an update bigger than +8 since Friday. It's not like Taylor's song came in and brought it from +100 to -2. It went from +8 to -2, a difference of only 10. It was already starting to peak. Don't blame Taylor.
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Post by slayZ on Aug 15, 2012 18:37:28 GMT -5
I can't honestly blame this on Taylor. Dark Side hasn't gotten an update bigger than +8 since Friday. It's not like Taylor's song came in and brought it from +100 to -2. It went from +8 to -2, a difference of only 10. It was already starting to peak. Don't blame Taylor. Voice of reason. Hello.
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Post by slamina on Aug 15, 2012 18:37:42 GMT -5
Why did Taylor Swift have to exist? Mr. & Mrs. Swift had unprotected sex. How do we know it wasn't in vitro fertilization? ;)
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 15, 2012 18:39:59 GMT -5
Mr. & Mrs. Swift had unprotected sex. How do we know it wasn't in vitro fertilization? ;) Touché.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 15, 2012 20:54:15 GMT -5
How is this doing on Hot Ac?
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Post by josh on Aug 15, 2012 20:58:06 GMT -5
How is this doing on Hot Ac? But this is the Pop section, there's a HAC section with its own dedicated Dark Side thread!!! 8 = KELLY CLARKSON Dark Side 3183 -16 155 -56 18.894 -0.183 -16 spins -56 bullet -0.183 Not well, obviously.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 15, 2012 21:18:19 GMT -5
I just visited the Hot Ac section and it looks dead. What happened? The last update for Kelly was like, two weeks ago Anyway, Hot Ac not sending this straight to #1 pisses me off more than Pop stopping it here. This is like, Hot Ac bait and Kelly is queen of Hot Ac. It is a no brainer.
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Post by Kurt on Aug 15, 2012 21:21:22 GMT -5
No one loves the HAC forum. :'( (I just never update stuff unless I notice it hits a benchmark, i.e. top twenty, and I've never bothered to figure out how to do daily updates, haha.)
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