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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 10:36:52 GMT -5
Wow... this is really ridiculous Billboard. 521k and not being #1??? Just wow.. Their formula is beyond inaccurate.
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Post by franklin on Apr 4, 2012 10:37:01 GMT -5
Boycotting Billboard imo.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 4, 2012 10:38:28 GMT -5
What? :o 521k downloads and #2 debut?
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Post by Cerbius on Apr 4, 2012 10:39:49 GMT -5
I'm astounded streaming made that big of a difference. Can't say I'm disappointed, though.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 10:41:25 GMT -5
Wow... this is really ridiculous Billboard. 521k and not being #1??? Just wow.. Their formula is beyond inaccurate. A month ago, this would have been #1. I like the new formula However, since they are acknowledging a heavier streaming effect, it is not Sales and conventional radio airplay are not the only compenents anymore to measure a songs popularity |
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Post by Cerbius on Apr 4, 2012 10:43:08 GMT -5
I guess this means we'll be seeing a lot less number one debuts in the future.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 4, 2012 10:44:49 GMT -5
And more songs spending 15 weeks at #1. I don't like it.
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Post by josh on Apr 4, 2012 10:46:50 GMT -5
Too bad this didn't go into effect before the Grammys (looking at you, Part of Me ) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 10:47:02 GMT -5
Are you kidding me? 1 million streams is worth the same as 100 million AI?  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 10:49:12 GMT -5
^And worth the same as 100k digital sales Streaming should not have that much weight. |
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Post by allow that on Apr 4, 2012 10:49:16 GMT -5
Even taking Bieber out of the equation...
It's amazing to me that 1.18 million streams for fun. is worth more on the chart than their 104 million audience impressions from radio.
I guess the breakdown of the chart (on average, since it fluctuates any given week) is pretty much sales 40%, airplay 30%, streaming 30%.
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Post by jebsib on Apr 4, 2012 10:50:58 GMT -5
Not necessarily. Fun. Is an unusual juggernaut and now labels know to release new releases to stream immediately.
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Post by hazuki on Apr 4, 2012 10:52:03 GMT -5
Halleujah. Gotye for #1 next week, please.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 4, 2012 10:52:32 GMT -5
So for the future, it looks like you can tack on an automatic 100 points to the #1 streaming song.
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Post by jasontoralba on Apr 4, 2012 10:53:02 GMT -5
I think it's 40% sales, 35% radio airplay, and 25% on-demand stream. Sales>radio>ods
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 10:53:54 GMT -5
Bieber's label is probably kicking themselves right now for not putting Boyfriend up for streams.
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Post by allow that on Apr 4, 2012 10:54:06 GMT -5
Halleujah. Gotye for #1 next week, please. If Gotye can make #1, it's still weeks away. I'm starting to doubt he will now... just imagine how big Bieber's streaming will be once it's available. He may not have debuted at #1, but given the fact that a major component of chart points aren't even factored into his total yet and he's already #2 with airplay holding strong and maintaining Top 3 on iTunes, he'll be a force to contend with for #1.  |
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Post by wavey. on Apr 4, 2012 10:54:50 GMT -5
This is so wrong. I see a future thrash in this thread over this debacle.
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Post by nighttime on Apr 4, 2012 10:55:35 GMT -5
...that's unfortunate.
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Post by NeRD on Apr 4, 2012 10:57:03 GMT -5
Wow, thats crazy...
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Post by popstop on Apr 4, 2012 10:58:18 GMT -5
Bieber's label is probably kicking themselves right now for not putting Boyfriend up for streams. Maybe. I think this is the first time we are really seeing the impact of streaming since fun. has been so dominant in everything up to this point. And it's such a new component, it probably wasn't set up to be part of the marketing equation. |
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Post by allow that on Apr 4, 2012 10:58:30 GMT -5
Fun = 110 + 364 = 474 Beiber = 45 + 521 = 566 #1 debut is guaranteed. :) So basically it's probably actually: Fun = 110 + 364 +118 = 592 Bieber = 45 + 521 + 0 = 566 |
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Post by BRhap786 on Apr 4, 2012 11:01:25 GMT -5
Whaaat?? crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 11:02:43 GMT -5
^That was just a guess, I multipled Mediabase by 0.8, but the actual airplay numbers are: Bieber - 521 + 40 + ~10 = 571 fun. - 363 + 104 + 118 = 585 I don't really get this formula. What is On-Demand streaming anyway? Youtube views? ??? |
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Post by allow that on Apr 4, 2012 11:03:56 GMT -5
Also, just to compare with the #3 song, Gotye's points would probably be the following:
244 + 52 + 96 = 392
That kind of shows 1) how streaming impacts a lot more than radio and 2) how big of a gap there is between #1 and #3 (almost 200 chart points still :o )
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Post by hazuki on Apr 4, 2012 11:04:06 GMT -5
 YES! YES! YES! YES! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 11:04:09 GMT -5
I think ODS = paying a subscription to stream. Like Spotify.
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Post by jasontoralba on Apr 4, 2012 11:04:29 GMT -5
remember that most songs got less than a million on-demand streams. so 850,000 got 850 points. then WAY's 1.18m streams' 1180 points.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 4, 2012 11:05:24 GMT -5
That's quite a difference going from 5% to 25% streaming. It certainly makes radio less influential, which might actually be a good thing in the long run. Hopefully Bieber still gets #1 in the future.
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Post by moore746 on Apr 4, 2012 11:06:57 GMT -5
Wow the Billboard Hot 100 has become worthless.
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