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Post by Grün on Feb 14, 2013 19:13:01 GMT -5
Apparently you didn't listen to the radio or watch television between 2001 and 2009. You mean when urban music was dominating the radio and culture...and yet still never won Record of the Year? "Say My Name" lost to U2. "Fallin'" and "Ms. Jackson" lost to U2. "Dilemma" and "Without Me" lost to Norah Jones. "Crazy In Love," "Hey Ya," and "Lose Yourself" lost to Coldplay. "Yeah!" lost to Ray Charles/Norah Jones. "We Belong Together" and "Gold Digger" lost to Green Day. Where to start? "Fallin" - Alicia Keys won Song of the Year for 2002 "Crazy in Love" - won Best R&B Song and Best Rap/Sung Call. "Lose Yourself" - won an Academy Award for best song. "Say My Name" may have lost but I believe Beyonce won Song of the Year for Single Ladies a few years after. "We Belong Together" won and was nominated in many spots. Also, come on Green Day's song is far superior. Norah Jones won everything that year. Clocks is an amazing song and didn't Outkast win album of the year that year. (Wow can't get much higher than album of the year). So it looks like you are speaking alittle too quickly. Maybe no record of the year, but I think they all did just fine. Also, I think many of these choices are more than fair. Green Day, U2 and Coldplay are pretty talented.
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Post by Grün on Feb 14, 2013 19:19:30 GMT -5
Serious question: is ANYONE outside of Pulse still talking about Kelly's comment? I don't get the feeling anyone is. Yes. Here is what Wale had to say: One more thing sorry. Miguel had one hit and the world is supposed to know who he is. I bet you can't name every up and coming country star? Can you? I bet you know every artist and every song on every chart. Kelly was giving him a nice compliment and I don't see the problem.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 14, 2013 21:10:49 GMT -5
The point being that R&B and hip-hop always loses out. If in the history of the Grammys no urban single has won Record, that's crazy. I don't care about going year by year; it's a huge pattern.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 14, 2013 21:14:11 GMT -5
Yes. Here is what Wale had to say: One more thing sorry. Miguel had one hit and the world is supposed to know who he is. I bet you can't name every up and coming country star? Can you? I bet you know every artist and every song on every chart. Kelly was giving him a nice compliment and I don't see the problem. I can name a lot of country stars as I listen to all genres of music. Kacey Musgraves is a great country talent right now with her hit "Merry Go Round," and she had a song featured on the show Nashville. Anyway, Miguel has had more than 1 hit. "Adorn" has been huge, but his debut album featured a #1 R&B hit and another top 10 R&B hit. And again, he was nominated alongside Kelly for Song of the Year so you'd think she would at least check out her 'competition.' Anyway, it's not just about Kelly; I'm sure she isn't the only one with a limited knowledge of music. It's sad to me how "nichey" music has become. I like it when people listen to all kinds of music.
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Post by Jeff on Feb 15, 2013 10:52:13 GMT -5
I love how dis dude doesn't know a SINGLE THING about Kelly, yet talks like he does. If you knew ANYTHING about Kelly you would know she's not one to sit there and over analyze her fellow nominees (which if you want to get technical Kelly wasn't even up against Miguel since she wasn't a writer on Stronger) or as you call them competition, then listen to their entire catalog. She ain't got time for that.
I think Kelly was more taken aback and a loss of 'correct' words for the simple fact that she does pride herself on loving all types of music and is obsessed with many talented people. Again if you knew ANYTHING about her you would know and understand this. She witnessed a super talented guy she'd (along with a good % of viewers at home and in the audience) never seen or heard of before. She was very sweet and genuine about it, Miguel realized that. All this is now is a few people trying to make this whole thing into a debate about how now it's Kelly's fault that some good R&B songs lost an award to some GREAT non R&B songs. Get over it. It's all BS.
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Post by ItGirl on Feb 15, 2013 11:10:43 GMT -5
Still with this? lol.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 15, 2013 11:15:03 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 15, 2013 13:01:08 GMT -5
I love how dis dude doesn't know a SINGLE THING about Kelly, yet talks like he does. If you knew ANYTHING about Kelly you would know she's not one to sit there and over analyze her fellow nominees (which if you want to get technical Kelly wasn't even up against Miguel since she wasn't a writer on Stronger) or as you call them competition, then listen to their entire catalog. She ain't got time for that. I think Kelly was more taken aback and a loss of 'correct' words for the simple fact that she does pride herself on loving all types of music and is obsessed with many talented people. Again if you knew ANYTHING about her you would know and understand this. She witnessed a super talented guy she'd (along with a good % of viewers at home and in the audience) never seen or heard of before. She was very sweet and genuine about it, Miguel realized that. All this is now is a few people trying to make this whole thing into a debate about how now it's Kelly's fault that some good R&B songs lost an award to some GREAT non R&B songs. Get over it. It's all BS. Man, you are overly sensitive. If you would comprehend what I have been writing, I (like Wale) have used Kelly's comment as a starting point to point out something I dislike in the music scene. At no point have I blamed Kelly for the issue.
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Post by Myth X on Feb 17, 2013 8:05:00 GMT -5
OMG Taylor Hicks won a Grammy? LMAO. We can't call him a complete flop now. Not really. Jimmy Fallon is the only winner of that category. Featured artists only get the award for an album when it's Album of the Year.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 18, 2013 19:41:19 GMT -5
Featured artists only get the award for an album when it's Album of the Year. Which makes no sense to me; why isn't it the same for all Album categories? Personally I don't see why someone who sings half of one song gets a Grammy for AOTY, but regardless I don't get why they win that but not, say, Pop Album.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 0:24:57 GMT -5
I thought I saw someone say somewhere in this thread that for genre-album categories, featured artists, writers, etc. receive a certificate. So they can still sort of claim to be Grammy "winners," they just didn't get a trophy.
Correct me if I'm wrong on this, though. I can't recall where I saw this comment but definitely remember it.
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Post by Scotty on Feb 19, 2013 0:41:22 GMT -5
I thought I saw someone say somewhere in this thread that for genre-album categories, featured artists, writers, etc. receive a certificate. So they can still sort of claim to be Grammy "winners," they just didn't get a trophy. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, though. I can't recall where I saw this comment but definitely remember it. That just sounds pathetic and lame though. (Meaning what you're saying is probably true) Like, I have this certificate that says I'm technically a Grammy winner but really I'm not because I don't have the actual Grammy Award itself? I guess you can't give the award to everyone so it's nice to get recognized since you contributed to the work in some way, though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 1:25:46 GMT -5
That certificate thing actually humors me because even nominees get medals indicating their nominations, so the fact that a winner would actually get a piece of paper after a WIN rather than even some smaller hardware if they had simply lost is kind of funny in the sense. ("Sad" funny, of course, but still...)
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Mar 4, 2013 15:35:07 GMT -5
Next year's Grammys will be probably be moved up 2 weeks to January 26 due to The Olympics in February: www.deadline.com/2013/03/winter-olympic-oscars-march/Will they keep the same cut off date (Sept. 30) or move it up to August 30 like they did the last time The Olympics were in February?
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