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Post by singalong on Feb 11, 2013 13:48:45 GMT -5
I love how the only negative criticism I could find about Kelly are trivial and nitpick remarks. She's not always perfect and I'm happy, for one, to know I don't stan for a robot. Kelly really did not expect to win, so her off the cuff acceptance speech was hilarious. So happy to see just about every critic's reviews praise not only her superior performance but her funny speech. Even Zach Braff tweeted thanking her for his award. lol I can see Taylor in the future headlining the halftime Super Bowl. Her performance skills keep getting better and it doesn't hurt that her legs go on forever, some of the best looking in the business. Carrie is a good enough singer so I hate when she feels like she constantly needs wind machines, gowns that light up etc. It gets to be too distracting from her vocals. Overall great performances this year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 13:53:04 GMT -5
Aside from last year, this show had the best ratings most viewers since 1993.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 14:01:17 GMT -5
Personally I think Kelly was mildly buzzed by the time that she was accepting that award (and she really did seem to believe she wasn't going to win anything b/c she didn't have a speech prepared at all). I know most Kelly fans had convinced themselves that she had pop solo in the bag but she actually wasn't favored to win any of her categories so I can't really fault her for that, or for being so excited that she ran to hug some friends before going on stage. I also think she's actually improved a bit over the years as far as public speaking goes which probably says a lot about where she started, but I think that she's just a lot more relaxed about things now.
IDK, if it was the Oscars I could understand the want for formality, but it's the Grammys, which has never felt like a 100% black tie affair to me. 75% of the room is a bunch of tactless, boorish celebrities and some of them go so far as to dress the part. Kelly's tame by comparison. And I mean, Miguel himself was putting on invisible condoms and humping the air in concert a few nights ago, so I don't think he cares if a YT girl gets turned on by his performance, lol. And as for the "I don't know who the hell you are" part I think that's just more reflective of how little non-pop music is crossing over these days. I know Wale said he was kind of offended by the comment but urban fans have to remember that a lot of pop listeners really DON'T know who Miguel is, even if we've been on him for a couple years now. Kelly strikes me as someone who likes r&b when she hears it, but doesn't actively keep up with it. I think there are several people like that.
Also, Kelly is freaking DYING for a collaboration. Miguel better watch out before she starts humping him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 14:11:09 GMT -5
I know Wale said he was kind of offended by the comment but urban fans have to remember that a lot of pop listeners really DON'T know who Miguel is, even if we've been on him for a couple years now. Kelly strikes me as someone who likes r&b when she hears it, but doesn't actively keep up with it. I think there are several people like that. That's fine. I don't doubt that she really had no idea who he was. The problem is saying "I DON'T KNOW WHO THE HELL YOU ARE" about someone in front of millions of people. People here should know more than anyone how shady that sounds. It's one of those comments that crosses your mind but doesn't come out of your mouth because it's tactless and unprofessional. It's not surprising that people like Wale and Urban music fans would find it especially annoying/offensive/whatever, because Miguel has spent the past 5+ months with the most played R&B song in the country. He's also had a handful of other big hits in the past couple years. He's ubiquitous to those who are fans of urban music and has received a ton of acclaim over the past year. It just comes off very "urban music doesn't matter," which wasn't Kelly's intention, but the issue isn't what Kelly actually meant, it's that she said that out loud in front of millions of people to begin with. I'd find it equally rude if someone said that about a huge country music star just because they don't follow country music. It comes off as knocking the artist.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Feb 11, 2013 14:20:20 GMT -5
It wasn't just not knowing him.... but, when she's all, that's the sexiest thing I've ever seen.... it almost came off as mocking his performance. Like, what exactly did you mean by that? Are you saying that, Kelly, the non-urban following, cute pop artist, suddenly got her chocha all wet by seeing his performance? I mean, that can't be so, right?, considering her awesome husband was in the same room.
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Post by allow that on Feb 11, 2013 14:20:32 GMT -5
That's fine. I don't doubt that she really had no idea who he was. The problem is saying "I DON'T KNOW WHO THE HELL YOU ARE" about someone in front of millions of people. It's one of those comments that crosses your mind but doesn't come out of your mouth because it's tactless and unprofessional. Exactly. It's not offensive that she doesn't know who Miguel is; she's entitled to her own listening orbit. But whether she's aware of him or not, he's right there performing his song at the friggin' Grammys so that's when common sense should be enough to tell you that he must be someone. It's a professional event and that was a completely unprofessional statement.
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Post by dbhmr on Feb 11, 2013 14:22:22 GMT -5
I know Wale said he was kind of offended by the comment but urban fans have to remember that a lot of pop listeners really DON'T know who Miguel is, even if we've been on him for a couple years now. Kelly strikes me as someone who likes r&b when she hears it, but doesn't actively keep up with it. I think there are several people like that. That's fine. I don't doubt that she really had no idea who he was. The problem is saying "I DON'T KNOW WHO THE HELL YOU ARE" about someone in front of millions of people. People here should know more than anyone how shady that sounds. It's one of those comments that crosses your mind but doesn't come out of your mouth because it's tactless and unprofessional. It's not surprising that people like Wale and Urban music fans would find it especially annoying/offensive/whatever, because Miguel has spent the past 5+ months with the most played R&B song in the country. He's also had a handful of other big hits in the past couple years. He's ubiquitous to those who are fans of urban music and has received a ton of acclaim over the past year. It just comes off very "urban music doesn't matter," which wasn't Kelly's intention, but the issue isn't what Kelly actually meant, it's that she said that out loud in front of millions of people to begin with. I'd find it equally rude if someone said that about a huge country music star just because they don't follow country music. It comes off as knocking the artist. I'd agree, but the way she followed it up made it seem like, "Why don't I know who you are because you're really f**king good?" I see how and why people could be put off by it, though, not every off-the-cuff remark is going to land within everyone's bounds. But she spent more time gushing about him then she did questioning who he was. And Miguel seemed far from bothered. Lol....at the stan saying he can only find trivial criticisms. Yeah, that kind of thing is right up there with this gem: 1. Carrie Underwood I'm saying this not because i'm a fan, but because it's the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 14:26:58 GMT -5
Thats how I viewed it, I just assumed she was saying how the hell do I not know you because you are great!, it was Kelly shading pop radio again.
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Post by countrygirl918 on Feb 11, 2013 14:28:12 GMT -5
Why does it always seem to have to be an either-or thing with Kelly and Carrie? Both ladies are incredibly talented and classy.
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Post by Eqbk on Feb 11, 2013 14:41:33 GMT -5
Grammys Awards Draw Second Biggest Audience in 20 YearsThe 55th Annual Grammy Awards had the second largest audience for the awards broadcast since 1993, according to Nielsen updated preliminary live plus same day ratings, and set a new social TV record for an awards show. The three and a half hour telecast was watched by 28.37 million viewers on Sunday. Of those, 12.9 million viewers were in the 18-49 demographic. While last year sent all ratings numbers skyrocketing, the 18-49 demo numbers are the show's best since 2004. Compared to the 2011 ceremony, CBS reported that it was up 7 percent in households, 4 percent in adults 25-54, 1 percent in adults 18-49 and 6 percent in total viewers. The Grammys also had more than 18.7 million social media comments, second only to the 2013 Super Bowl, and topping the social TV record it set last year by 44 percent, according to Bluefin. www.billboard.com/articles/news/1538749/grammys-awards-draw-second-biggest-audience-in-20-years
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Post by Kishi KCM on Feb 11, 2013 15:12:14 GMT -5
It was a great night, I'm pleased with the performances, most of the winners, and the ratings. :)
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 11, 2013 18:33:30 GMT -5
I'm wondering if anyone will have a big year next year? I'm thinking Arcade Fire, Haim (know I already said this), and Drake are early favorites, maybe Gaga. Bruno Mars. The Grammys obviously love him, and I think he's only won 1 to this point. I expect him to get at least 2 nods in the major categories, and then Pop Solo and Pop Album nods.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 11, 2013 18:37:29 GMT -5
It was disappointing to me to realize that even the younger voters/artists don't know a lot of music. Ne-Yo said on the red carpet he heard The Lumineers for the first time at Clive's thing on Saturday night and wants to get their album. And then Kelly Clarkson not knowing Miguel despite him having several big R&B hits, him being on her label, and him being a fellow SOTY nominee was odd.
Speaking of Kelly, I can't believe Stronger won Pop Album. It's easily her most boring album. Her great performance last night is yet another example that she needs to be singing better material.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Feb 11, 2013 18:51:40 GMT -5
Y'all better drag Kelly! LOL
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Post by Jack on Feb 11, 2013 19:28:15 GMT -5
hidizzyguy You are trying, much much too hard. You know this only means I only liked Taylor's performance and didn't care for the other performances. ;) Yes, but that is true for everything ever, so just assume we all know. And we know the only way you found out the rest of the show was as 'boring and terrible' as it was, was because you stayed tuned for the camera cuts to Taylor in the audience. It must be an entirely exhausting and repetitive way to listen to and follow music, but that sort of reflects in your posting on the subject too? - Amazing show last night, up there with the best Grammy's I've seen.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 11, 2013 20:54:24 GMT -5
You know this only means I only liked Taylor's performance and didn't care for the other performances. ;) Really? I'd think you'd have liked Frank Ocean's performance as well since he struggled with pitch as much as Taylor.
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Post by sbp17 on Feb 11, 2013 21:05:20 GMT -5
Why does it always seem to have to be an either-or thing with Kelly and Carrie? Both ladies are incredibly talented and classy. Exactly.
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Post by Rodze on Feb 11, 2013 22:06:26 GMT -5
Why does it always seem to have to be an either-or thing with Kelly and Carrie? Both ladies are incredibly talented and classy. Is that a rhetorical question? They're the only relevant American Idol people. There can be only one. As for how Kelly Clarkson acted, didn't see a problem. *shrugs* Was more disgusted by Frank Ocean and whatever the hell was that he did on stage with his horrible singing in his shittastic "song". Made me long for Taylor Swift's performance.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Feb 11, 2013 22:15:51 GMT -5
This year's Grammys weren't bad but I found they dragged on for too long. While I love that there's so much a focus on performances, it's still an award show. They should shorten it to 3 hours at most and add in a few more awards. Going 45 minutes without an award being given out is unacceptable. I think a lot of people actually watch it to see the awards being given out and acceptance speeches and stuff. We don't get a lot of opportunity to see artists like this.
I didn't like LL Cool J hosting it. As everyone is saying, he made it all about him. Why did they show clips of him from years ago? They need to bring Ellen back to host. I guarantee ratings would jump up then.
None of the performances blew me away. With that said, I don't think there were any terrible performances either. Some could have been better and others weren't up to par but for the most part, it was a pretty consistently average night.
I guess I've learned about myself that I might actually prefer watching the MTV Video Music Awards for entertainment purposes, obviously. I value the Grammys but because they're becoming more removed from the awards aspect of the television event that at just under 2 hours I was feeling bored and losing interest fast.
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Post by upsidedown on Feb 11, 2013 22:19:50 GMT -5
I can't at people getting so tripped up by Kelly's comment. Like she meant anything by it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 22:22:15 GMT -5
I was shocked at Kelly's pop win, but, good job for her. Her performance was nice, although I stick to my stance that she just does not have the raw tone to do any type of soul the way Aretha does Natural Woman. Even Adele had that look, like, bitch, I could do that better. One thing that bugged me is that this bitch needs to take some etiquette classes or something. Bumping into people, making silly speeches, fumbling names of artists when she presented - I could have sworn she was the same age as Taylor, cause she was behaving exactly like a teenager. Whereas on the other hand, Carrie Underwood was the EPITOME of class and grace when she performed and when she gave her acceptance speech.
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Post by bb on Feb 11, 2013 22:23:45 GMT -5
^ It just wasn't very classy. I don't think she should be crucified for it, as she obviously meant it as a complement and Miguel took it as such, but I don't think it's so absurd to say she should probably think over what she's going to say before she says it. One of the thing I love most about her as a celebrity is that she is totally uninhibited, totally genuine, and that should NEVER change, but if she wants to avoid offending people, preparing a short little speech before going to an award show where she is the most nominated female MIGHT not be such a huge stretch.
But yeah, it's not a big deal and her speech was one of the highlights of the night for most people. I actually thought Rihanna hit it out of the park the most, if only because I was totally shocked by her restraint and control.
EDIT: Sorry, responding to upsidedown
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 22:26:14 GMT -5
I mean, I get it....but really, that was the sexiest thing she's seen? Please. Joking or not......it was just, dumb. And then her final words to be, again, "I didn't think I would win" or whatever... It's like ugh...woman, grow up. You've been sung your praises since winning Idol. No one is mistaking you for Adele, okay? Stop with trying to smash our faces with humble pie. Kelly's been serving humble pie since Adele was still writing her songs in school so. And she wasn't favored by anyone to win that award. But, unless it's about Drag Race, I never agree with you anyway so let's carry on! Doesn't matter. Kelly is not a stranger to that award, she won the same thing in 2006 - back when she first came out. Anyway, I'm not here to trash on Kelly - she was just one of the low-lights for me last night. And girl, Drag Race is on tonight........ see you in the interior illusions lounge, hunty! It's an expression....no need to take her literally. You said yourself that you were surprised she won, as were her fans, and she was surprised too. She's the only artist in history to win that award more than once.People found her speech really funny and refreshing. Kelly has always been real and humble, I don't get why you're finding so much criticism in it.
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Post by upsidedown on Feb 11, 2013 22:28:42 GMT -5
Rihanna's performance was one of the best of the night. I dont see anyone who wasn't surprised at how damn good it was.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 22:37:50 GMT -5
Really though, comparing Rihanna's live vocals today to what they were about a year ago is like night and day.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 23:04:05 GMT -5
The same guy who famously kissed Will Smith at the 2012 "MIB 3" Premiere and got slapped crashed the 2013 Grammy Awards on Sunday night. Vitalii Sediuk, Grammys Crasher: Controversial TV Personality Put In Jail After Meeting Adele On StagePosted: 02/11/2013 7:24 pm EST | Updated: 02/11/2013 7:26 pm EST Vitalii Sediuk (L) crashes the Grammys Vitalii Sediuk didn't have "Soy Bomb" written on his chest, but he'll still find his name on the list of people who have crashed the Grammys. Sediuk, who gained notoriety last year for kissing Will Smith at the Moscow premiere of "Men In Black 3," randomly appeared on stage when Adele won Best Pop Solo Performance at the 2013 Grammys on Sunday night. THR posted video of Sediuk standing beside awards presenters Jennifer Lopez an Pitbull. Only Lopez seemed fazed by his appearance, scowling at Sediuk and pointing at him to get off stage. As Adele was getting ready to give her acceptance speech, Sediuk calmly exited through the back. (Watch video of the incident below.) As THR notes, Sediuk spent the night in jail for his offense. The TV personality is apparently known for his wild celebrity pranks. He also gave Madonna hydrangeas.This is hardly the first time someone has crashed the Grammys. As mentioned, performance artist Michael Portnoy disrupted Bob Dylan's performance at during the 1998 Grammys when he stood next to the singer with "Soy Bomb" written on his bare chest. Portnoy was hired by the Grammys as a background performer, but the stunt was not part of Dylan's act. In 2003, Nicholas "Sixx" King wound up on the Grammys stage when Foo Fighters were accepting an award. King, an infamous awards-show crasher, also disrupted the MTV Video Music Awards in 2006.The most famous awards-show crasher, however, is the most famous name: Kanye West. The rapper disrupted Taylor Swift's acceptance speech at the 2009 VMAs, after Swift won Best Female Video over Beyonce. For more on Sediuk and how he managed to get into the Grammys, head over to THR. Watch the video below. [via THR]Source
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 11, 2013 23:20:59 GMT -5
I'm listening to the Mumford & Sons album right now. I was a fan of Sigh No More and this...sounds exactly like it. And most of the songs have the same format; start a bit slow and build into a jam session.
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Post by esoteric76 on Feb 12, 2013 16:27:07 GMT -5
It was kind of crazy to me that Kelly didn't know who Miguel is. First of all, they're both under the Sony umbrella, and second, I would just think that she would have listened to a little of his stuff before the show since he was a nominee for a televised category. I dunno, I loved her enthusiasm, (and the WIN was great), but get it together Kelly.
Speaking of Miguel, he was signed to Jive a LOOOONG time ago, so it must be nice that all of that hard work in developing him paid off. We know it doesn't happen often.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 12, 2013 19:41:09 GMT -5
It was kind of crazy to me that Kelly didn't know who Miguel is. First of all, they're both under the Sony umbrella, and second, I would just think that she would have listened to a little of his stuff before the show since he was a nominee for a televised category. I dunno, I loved her enthusiasm, (and the WIN was great), but get it together Kelly. Speaking of Miguel, he was signed to Jive a LOOOONG time ago, so it must be nice that all of that hard work in developing him paid off. We know it doesn't happen often. More than him being nominated in a televised category, he was nominated against her in SOTY. I doubt artists make sure to hear everything in the televised categories since that list isn't even released until a day or two before the show, but you'd think Kelly would listen to everything she's nominated alongside. Along with that, Miguel is a label mate as you said. And then "Adorn" has been #1 on R&B Airplay for 22 weeks. It's a humongous R&B hit. She must not be as diverse in what she listens to as I thought.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 19:49:45 GMT -5
Maybe she meant it as "I don't know who the hell you are" personally, rather than professionally? I don't see Kelly being any sort of person to say something of that kind of manner privately, let alone publicly on television.
She was giving a Grammy Award acceptance speech in front of 30 million people at the Staples Center packed with the biggest celebrities in the world. I'd flub up and say some stupid and regretful things, too, if I was ever, dreamingly, in her position.
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