Odd chart extremes on Hot AC this fall?

[Kid Pulse]

I've been thinking about this, and I'm predicting a long period of no solo males in the top 20 on Hot AC!!! Rob Thomas and Mat Kearney will both be out or to recurrent by mid-August. I thought "Beautiful Disaster" would be a top 10 hit on Hot AC, but it is now almost out of the top 40. Elliot Yamin might make the top 20, but with so many artsits that WILL make it, I think he'll miss the top 20.


In September-October, the top 20 will probably contain (about) 13 songs by bands and 7 by solo female artists. Would this be the first time ever there are no solo males in the top 20 of Hot AC (could happen in 3-5 weeks).


The other thing I've been thinking of is that P!nk currently has 2 hits in the top 20, as does Nickelback (with thiers in the top 10). By the fall, Daughtry (who has 2 now) will have 2 with 2 different hits ("Home and "Over You"), and you can also add Maroon 5 and Gwen Stefani to the list. If this does happen, which it very well could- would 5 "double acts" be a record on American Top 20?

[atlantaboy]

James Blunt has a new single posted on the CHR/Pop board - haven't heard it yet - can't think of any other solo males that'll be Top 20 Hot AC offhand, unless someone new comes out (although IMO Daughtry is basically a solo male) - also still hoping more stations will pick up Emerson Hart (but prob. won't happen)

BTW, "Time After Time" by Cyndi Lauper - nice song of the day!! Prob. my favorite song from the 80s - and remake by Quietdrive doesn't even come close to original :)

[atlantaboy]

video545 said:

The other thing I've been thinking of is that Pink currently has 2 hits in the top 20, as does Nickelback (with thiers in the top 10). By the fall, Daughtry (who has 2 now) will have 2 with 2 different hits ("Home and "Over You"), and you can also add Maroon 5 and Gwen Stefani to the list. If this does happen, which it very well could- would 5 "double acts" be a record on American Top 20?

Dude - I read this five times and it's giving me the biggest headache :)

[Kid Pulse]

atlantaboy said:

video545 said:

The other thing I've been thinking of is that Pink currently has 2 hits in the top 20, as does Nickelback (with thiers in the top 10). By the fall, Daughtry (who has 2 now) will have 2 with 2 different hits ("Home and "Over You"), and you can also add Maroon 5 and Gwen Stefani to the list. If this does happen, which it very well could- would 5 "double acts" be a record on American Top 20?

Dude - I read this five times and it's giving me the biggest headache :)

Hahahah, is it because it's confusing? I knew it was when I typed it! :)


BTW, I totally forgot about Emerson Hart! I hope that song goes top 20. I think it deserves to go top 10, but Hot AC just will not let it go that far.

[atlantaboy]

video545 said:

atlantaboy said:

Dude - I read this five times and it's giving me the biggest headache :)

Hahahah, is it because it's confusing? I knew it was when I typed it! :)


BTW, I totally forgot about Emerson Hart! I hope that song goes top 20. I think it deserves to go top 10, but Hot AC just will not let it go that far.

It's really slowing down, and the only major market Hot AC I can find that picked it up was WPTE/Norfolk - all the "Alice-type" stations in the West didn't even touch it -

This song sounds a lot like "Take Me As I Am" - Tonic's single from 2003-2004? and that barely got any Hot AC airplay

Still rootin for him, though :) IMO his best shot is on Triple A but songs that start in Triple A really have to hit the top 3 in AAA even to be considered for Hot AC

It'd also really help if he had a video!!

[Kid Pulse]

WINC plays this a lot, and it gets very good reception on that station. Not sure how big thier audience is, though.

[atlantaboy]

video545 said:

WINC plays this a lot, and it gets very good reception on that station. Not sure how big thier audience is, though.

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Hopefully, Mix 107.3 Washington will pick it up and PLJ/New York - WINC plays almost all new releases I think (they even played "Signal Fire" didn't they?)

Anyhow, maybe it'll become an East Coast thang that'll spread

Just wondering why KYSR/Los Angeles, KMXB/Las Vegas, KLCA/Reno etc. aren't playing it and they're about the most liberal Hot AC's in the country

[Kid Pulse]

atlantaboy said:

video545 said:

WINC plays this a lot, and it gets very good reception on that station. Not sure how big thier audience is, though.

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Hopefully, Mix 107.3 Washington will pick it up and PLJ/New York - WINC plays almost all new releases I think (they even played "Signal Fire" didn't they?)

Anyhow, maybe it'll become an East Coast thang that'll spread

Just wondering why KYSR/Los Angeles, KMXB/Las Vegas, KLCA/Reno etc. aren't playing it and they're about the most liberal Hot AC's in the country

Yeah, WINC played "Signal Fire" and so did Mix 107.3 (WRQX). I agree with you about WINC- they played "Hollywood" before almost anyone else and also played "Sober" by Kelly Clarkson basically RIGHT after it was release (I heard it like 1 day after it was so quickly released).

And don't you think this appeals to more conservative Hot ACs? I hear Baltimore play "Undeniable", "Give it to Me", and "Cupid's Chokehold" all the time, so I figure a conservative Hot AC would love "If You're Gonna Leave" so they didn't have to play those songs with rap as much.

[atlantaboy]

I think Mix 1065 Baltimore is doing the opposite - covering pop/rhythmic as best as they can cause there's no CHR in their market - they prob. get higher ratings playing Cupid's Chokehold and Give It To Me b/c no one else in the market is playin them at all - it's much "safer" to play rhythmic-leaning songs that are proven hits than it is to play "If You're Gonna Leave" (sorry - IF YOU HAVE NO CHR/POP IN YOUR MARKET, I mean)

Mix 1073 Washington should be able to add Emerson Hart, though, cause if people in Wash DC wanna hear Give It To Me they'll listen to Hot 99.5 (I think) - unless E. H. is just not getting strong enough response - same with WPLJ, Mix 101.9 Chicago, all the Texas "Mix" stations (Dallas, Houston, Austin), and def. all those West Coast Alice-type stations

[Kid Pulse]

Yeah, Hot 99.5 plays Timbaland all the time.


And if Emerson Hart does indeed miss the top 20, would this be the first time ever there are no solo males in the top 20?

[Kid Pulse]

I hear that Gavin DeGraw will release new music this fall. If it's good, I could see it doing great here.

[shocker]

video545 said:

I hear that Gavin DeGraw will release new music this fall. If it's good, I could see it doing great here.

That really depends.

"I Don't Want to Be" wasn't all that great IMO, but did very well at both Hot AC & CHR. His follow-up, "Chariot" was a much better song, and charted slightly higher on Hot AC than "I Don't Want to Be".

But of the 2 songs, guess which one most Hot AC stations spin the most as a recurrent? Yep - "I Don't Want to Be".
>:(

[mrclimbfall20]

video545 said:

I hear that Gavin DeGraw will release new music this fall. If it's good, I could see it doing great here.

That's funny because last night I heard a commercial about it on our Active Rock station saying that his new single will be released soon.

[mrclimbfall20]

shocker said:

video545 said:

I hear that Gavin DeGraw will release new music this fall. If it's good, I could see it doing great here.

That really depends.

"I Don't Want to Be" wasn't all that great IMO, but did very well at both Hot AC & CHR. His follow-up, "Chariot" was a much better song, and charted slightly higher on Hot AC than "I Don't Want to Be".

But of the 2 songs, guess which one most Hot AC stations spin the most as a recurrent? Yep - "I Don't Want to Be".
>:(

I liked them both but they hardly ever played "I Don't Want to Be" on the main Hot AC station here, Star 94.1. I think they only played it like 3 or 4 times. But they played "Chariot" for a while then stopped playing it after it died down on the chart. Then about a year ago when they got a new PD they played it almost every hour for a while yet I still haven't heard "Chariot" since it first came out. It's weird how radio works.

[Kid Pulse]

mrclimbfall20 said:

video545 said:

I hear that Gavin DeGraw will release new music this fall. If it's good, I could see it doing great here.

That's funny because last night I heard a commercial about it on our Active Rock station saying that his new single will be released soon.

LOL, I learned of this from a commercial that was aired about 7 times during American Top 20 yesterday morning.

[mrclimbfall20]

video545 said:

mrclimbfall20 said:

That's funny because last night I heard a commercial about it on our Active Rock station saying that his new single will be released soon.

LOL, I learned of this from a commercial that was aired about 7 times during American Top 20 yesterday morning.

It was probably the same commercial I heard then haha

[Devil Marlena Nylund]

Awesome! Looking forward to new Gavin. His CD was one of my favourites from 2004!

[atlantaboy]

shocker said:

video545 said:

I hear that Gavin DeGraw will release new music this fall. If it's good, I could see it doing great here.

That really depends.

"I Don't Want to Be" wasn't all that great IMO, but did very well at both Hot AC & CHR. His follow-up, "Chariot" was a much better song, and charted slightly higher on Hot AC than "I Don't Want to Be".

But of the 2 songs, guess which one most Hot AC stations spin the most as a recurrent? Yep - "I Don't Want to Be".
>:(

Yeah - I still don't get what everyone loved so much about "I Don't Want To Be" - seemed like a song I could've written...but I guess somethin about it caught on

BTW including both CHR and HAC, "I Don't Want To Be" is one of the biggest hits of the decade - "Chariot" doesn't even come close - I know some HAC stations went back and played "I Don't Want To Be" after "Chariot" became a hit

[Devil Marlena Nylund]

I never hear 'I Don't Want To Be'. Actually, I don't even think C100 played it at all. But they played tons of 'Chariot'. I still hear it sometimes.

[Kid Pulse]

When it comes to Gavin DeGraw, my favorite was "Follow Through".

[atlantaboy]

themaxonline said:

I never hear 'I Don't Want To Be'. Actually, I don't even think C100 played it at all. But they played tons of 'Chariot'. I still hear it sometimes.

That's really weird - where do you live? "C100" sounds like a Canadian station

[Devil Marlena Nylund]

It is. Halifax