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Post by erzo01 on Oct 11, 2009 8:56:43 GMT -5
Top 5 in Triple A!
7 5 TRAIN Hey, Soul Sister 413 379 34 1.135
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Post by The Party Captain on Oct 19, 2009 14:47:39 GMT -5
I'm surprised this one outperformed Cab. Cab was a better song IMO. Pat Monahan's voice seems a little nasal in Hey Soul Sister.
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 20, 2009 3:04:20 GMT -5
I'm surprised this one outperformed Cab. Cab was a better song IMO. Pat Monahan's voice seems a little nasal in Hey Soul Sister. "Cab" peaked at #2 on Triple A and #9 on Hot AC. It has already outpeaked "Cab" on the Billboard Hot 100 hands down, but it has yet to outpeak their previous lead single at radio, and I still think "Hey Soul Sister" won't go Top Ten. Sincerely, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by aTunes on Oct 20, 2009 21:43:59 GMT -5
This is their best song since Calling All Angels, imo. Then again, aside from Meet Virginia and Drops of Jupiter I really could care less about this band.
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 20, 2009 22:40:24 GMT -5
This is their best song since Calling All Angels, imo. Then again, aside from Meet Virginia and Drops of Jupiter I really could care less about this band. This is their worst single to date, in my opinion. I actually list it currently among my Top Ten Worst Singles of 2009 list to date, along with "Bird Walk", "Backwoods", "The Good Lord And The Man", "Hate My Life", "Turn My Swag On", "Spaceship", "I Almost Told You That I Loved You", "Face Drop" and "Nothing Ever Hurt Like You" (arguably a 2008 release but didn't really make noise until this year). Sincerely, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by The Party Captain on Oct 22, 2009 9:58:57 GMT -5
I dunno, Noah, I think you may be wrong about this one. In mid-conversation, people have told me "Hey, did you hear that new Train song? It's awesome. Such a good song." I think Train may be making a comeback.
As of now, Hey Soul Sister has made it to #59 on the Billboard charts
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 22, 2009 13:52:30 GMT -5
I dunno, Noah, I think you may be wrong about this one. In mid-conversation, people have told me "Hey, did you hear that new Train song? It's awesome. Such a good song." I think Train may be making a comeback. As of now, Hey Soul Sister has made it to #59 on the Billboard charts Read my lips: Virtually no one will remember this single over a year from now. More singles like this, heavy with name drops and attempts at endless unusual one-liners or zingers, will come along and eventually relegate this solely to the concert crowd, where I would bet die-hard fans would much prefer much of their previous record over this. Train is capable of MUCH better than this, and they proved it on their last album. Sincerely, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by The Party Captain on Oct 22, 2009 15:38:20 GMT -5
^ I can think of many songs with plenty of name drops that still get played and remembered. Take "Hey Leonardo (She Likes Me For Me)" by Blessid Union of Souls for example.
It doesn't matter if people remember it a year from now. I have not opened the hatch as to whether or not this will go recurrent. But if something is a hit, it's a hit.
Die-hard fans would usually enjoy a Train song regardless of how "good" (which is subjective) it is.
I find the song perfectly fine. No way it is one of the worst 2009 releases.
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Post by Rumors on Oct 22, 2009 16:13:04 GMT -5
I didn't like this song at all after the first few listens but like most songs it got better after I heard it a few more times. It's an okay song. Much better than Pat's solo stuff though. Unfortunately, Pat's wierd movements or something in the video for this song just really turn me off. I now remember why I wasn't all that impressed with Train when I saw them open for Matchbox Twenty years ago. Pat's stage presense just really rubbed me the wrong way. He is a very good singer though. Better singer than songwriter in my mind anyway.
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Post by JCMF3 on Oct 24, 2009 22:27:52 GMT -5
Far from the worst release of 2009 (I am actually surprised at you Noah for that classification). However, as I suspected, this will not be in the top 10 on HAC.
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Post by JCMF3 on Oct 24, 2009 22:34:08 GMT -5
I'm surprised this one outperformed Cab. Cab was a better song IMO. Pat Monahan's voice seems a little nasal in Hey Soul Sister. On AAA, I am not that surprised. But this will in no way outperform Cab on HAC.
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 25, 2009 0:25:25 GMT -5
I'm surprised this one outperformed Cab. Cab was a better song IMO. Pat Monahan's voice seems a little nasal in Hey Soul Sister. On AAA, I am not that surprised. But this will in no way outperform Cab on HAC. "Cab" peaked at #2 on Triple A. So it has yet to outperform "Cab" on either airplay chart, despite already outpeaking "Cab" on the Billboard Hot 100. Sincerely, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by No Brake$ on Oct 30, 2009 7:53:46 GMT -5
LH,
Just doing some good ol' Chartmath, and I tell you what, you might end being wrong, it's going to be close.
I only see TWO songs passing Train by Christmas (Owl City and Lifehouse), and two anticipated releases MAYBE jumping ahead of it (Daughtry and For Your Entertainment) by then as well. It is slowly gaining again (at +122) and if a slight push to pop happens, no way this is going to go down while this happens. I understand you hate the song, but apparently a lot of other people don't, I mean it's in the 30's on iTunes, only behind Already Gone as far as Hot AC songs.
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 30, 2009 16:39:44 GMT -5
"Save Me San Francisco" was released this week, by the way, and I thought I'd share my thoughts on the album here.
It's not as good as "For Me, It's You", but I'd rank it above both "My Private Nation" and "Drops Of Jupiter"...............although I'd have to say that the album doesn't sound anything like their debut record as the band claimed it would repeatedly before its release (Ryan Tedder even co-wrote a song). In fact, it's their second poppiest album to date, in my opinion, behind only "My Private Nation".
Thankfully, "Hey, Soul Sister" is the worst song on the album, as "Save Me San Francisco" has some strong offerings. The title track is definitely among them, where I like the musical diversity, lyrical depictions of the Bay Area and anthemic charge of that song. I also really enjoyed "Breakfast In Bed" and its soulful sound, and "Marry Me" is a poignant, strong album closer in particular.
It does baffle me, nonetheless, why they've heralded this as a return to their roots when it is clearly very much a continuation of their heavy-production sound. If anything, "For Me, It's You" is the less produced album of the two overall. Still, it's a satisfying record, and I'd give it around three and a half stars out of five.
Sincerely, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by marv1978 on Oct 30, 2009 20:37:49 GMT -5
I think "Hey, Soul Sister" is insanely catchy that it doesn't matter what he's saying lol,it's just a hit! I think especially myself trying to be a radio purest,you just haft to listen to a song and determine if it's a hit and not be persuaded by trends and so on.... This imo is up there with "Meet Virginia" & "Drops Of Jupiter" and Pat's solo "Her Eyes". I think it's catchier than "Calling All Angels" & "When I Look To the Sky" "Get To Me" & "Cab". I see this going Top 10 among alot of competition on HOT AC and chr i really don't even care what they play anymore when Boom Boom Pow goes #1 that chart doesn't count HOT AC is Top 40 i don't know what heck chr is...Music for Kids Top 40,its no longer mass appeal with all the bubble gum and hip hop and it has no variety or depth and has all but totally abandonded the adult listener demo except those mid 30 moms still trying to be hip with theyre kids friends lol,but anyways just kidding but adult means 18 and up or anyone who wants to hear good songwriting,strong melodies,some originality and heart and soul and less booty shaking!
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Post by The Party Captain on Nov 5, 2009 12:14:17 GMT -5
I'm expecting either Parachute or You Already Know as second singles.
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Post by erzo01 on Dec 4, 2009 13:14:31 GMT -5
Top 10 in Hot AC!
12 10 TRAIN Hey, Soul Sister 2497 2402 95 12.824
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Post by singingsparrow on Dec 4, 2009 18:00:29 GMT -5
I'm expecting either Parachute or You Already Know as second singles. My bet is "Brick By Brick" will be the second single and, should that enjoy at least relative success, "This Ain't Goodbye" will be released as an obligatory ballad for the third single. I also wouldn't rule out a Triple A-only single release of the title track. Certainly half the album is radio-friendly, however, so "Parachute", "If It's Love" and "I Got You" could work as well (Columbia may be tempted to release "I Got You" because of Kid Rock's recent success with "All Summer Long", and Train does something not exactly like that but similar with the Doobie Brothers' "Black Water"). Sincerely, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by The Party Captain on Dec 6, 2009 15:33:35 GMT -5
I dunno. Unlike Train, Kid Rock was able to pull that off. I really hope I Got You isn't released next.
I think Parachute, You Already Know, and the title track could work on some rock stations. I don't remember Brick by Brick being that memorable.
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Post by chris89 on Dec 23, 2009 15:57:29 GMT -5
Could I request an update to where this stands on AAA and HAC? And perhaps how well it has sold on itunes?
For the record ive been a moderate Train fan for a while (I bought and quite enjoy For Me, It's You). I admit I had no idea they had a new album out until I first heard this on the radio, but It's been on my Christmas list since that time! I LOVE this song, and I know other people who are not Train fans at all who do as well. Im hoping it does well on the pop charts after its released there!
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Post by The Party Captain on Dec 23, 2009 16:32:09 GMT -5
It's in Top 5 in AAA and Top 10 in Hot AC. Still climbing, too. Stands a chance at going #1 at both.
Triple A 1 NORAH JONES Chasing Pirates 605 607 -2 1.864 2 JOHN MAYER Who Says 532 504 28 1.754 3 TRAIN Hey, Soul Sister 529 506 23 1.924 4 SNOW PATROL Just Say Yes 474 478 -4 1.49 5 PEARL JAM Just Breathe 461 413 48 1.47
Hot AC 1 KELLY CLARKSON Already Gone 3982 4054 -72 22.046 2 OWL CITY Fireflies 3733 3725 8 18.525 3 ROB THOMAS Someday 3347 3392 -45 17.948 4 UNCLE KRACKER Smile 3326 3377 -51 17.319 5 KINGS OF LEON Use Somebody 2959 3042 -83 16.641 6 TRAIN Hey, Soul Sister 2854 2697 157 16.496
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Post by chris89 on Dec 24, 2009 11:35:38 GMT -5
so one of their biggest hits recently yes?
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Post by The Party Captain on Dec 24, 2009 12:58:55 GMT -5
It's their biggest hit since 2003 with Calling All Angels.
Just saw this jumped 13 spots o the Billboard Hot 100. It is now at #32.
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Dec 24, 2009 16:23:50 GMT -5
It's their biggest hit since 2003 with Calling All Angels. Just saw this jumped 13 spots o the Billboard Hot 100. It is now at #32. it's their 4th most successful single by far on hot 100, but with some help from chr/pop stations, this song can be huge, and even manage to challenge drops of jupiter
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Post by singingsparrow on Dec 25, 2009 2:38:28 GMT -5
It's their biggest hit since 2003 with Calling All Angels. Just saw this jumped 13 spots o the Billboard Hot 100. It is now at #32. it's their 4th most successful single by far on hot 100, but with some help from chr/pop stations, this song can be huge, and even manage to challenge drops of jupiter I think their best bet at continued chart growth will have little to do with airplay, but with increased digital sales volume. It was a substantial gain in digital sales that resulted in the 13-slot surge this week on the Billboard Hot 100, while airplay only increased slightly. If "Hey, Soul Sister" moves further up the chart, it will be due to continuing digital sales growth, not airplay. Uncle Kracker's "Smile" is a clear example of a song that has gathered much more airplay since the song reached its current peak on the Billboard Hot 100 but, because digital sales are not as robust right now for it, it has thus far failed to surmount its #47 peak from some time ago. Sincerely, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by The Party Captain on Dec 25, 2009 14:04:00 GMT -5
^Well people buy songs faster than radio stations add them. The same thing happened to Come On Get Higher. Peaked in digital sales, and got huge amounts of airplay later.
Only so many people are going to buy the song. The digital sales are getting closer and closer to hitting a brick wall. It's not like people aren't going to be buying the song over and over because they hear on the radio more and more.
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Post by jmason on Jan 1, 2010 20:09:33 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for the other 10 stations to add this. HSS hit 87 stations and then stalled, and this was before Christmas. All the other songs have 90+ stations. Which probably means if other stations don't add this soon, the other 87 will burn out quick, sending HSS into a nosedrive like Born To Follow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2010 3:12:29 GMT -5
i am interested to hear this....it sells a lot in itunes...
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Post by Libra on Jan 2, 2010 11:10:04 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for the other 10 stations to add this. HSS hit 87 stations and then stalled, and this was before Christmas. All the other songs have 90+ stations. Which probably means if other stations don't add this soon, the other 87 will burn out quick, sending HSS into a nosedrive like Born To Follow. I think it's more likely that the other stations will soon pick this up. I never saw "...Born to Follow" as high up as this is now - plus, it looks like this might bring Train some mainstream success, which they haven't had in over 6 years.
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Post by No Brake$ on Jan 3, 2010 21:43:41 GMT -5
Don't forget this has still yet to go for POP adds at the end of the month, this 95% of the time usually garners more spins on the HOT AC chart,
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