sadchild
2x Platinum Member
Catchy ≠ Good
Joined: December 2009
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Post by sadchild on Apr 2, 2010 21:10:01 GMT -5
fair enough. glad this song tickles your fancy. sadly it tickles my gag reflex. i found the lyrics abominable. i found monahan's vocals unbearable. and it's a shame because i know they are capable of writing (what i would consider to be) great pop songs with depth, insight, and originality.
i write the column because, well, i want to. some find it very entertaining. most find it very annoying.
perfect.
there are many who hate jim carrey's slapstick antics, howard stern's off-color remarks, eminem's brutal lyrics. that doesn't mean they should stop.
reminds me of a quote by Bill Watterson.
"Genius is never understood in its own time."
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Post by The Party Captain on Apr 2, 2010 22:18:59 GMT -5
By all means, continue. I'm just some guy.
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Post by zarasthustra on Apr 3, 2010 3:54:00 GMT -5
fair enough. glad this song tickles your fancy. sadly it tickles my gag reflex. i found the lyrics abominable. i found monahan's vocals unbearable. and it's a shame because i know they are capable of writing (what i would consider to be) great pop songs with depth, insight, and originality. i write the column because, well, i want to. some find it very entertaining. most find it very annoying. perfect. there are many who hate jim carrey's slapstick antics, howard stern's off-color remarks, eminem's brutal lyrics. that doesn't mean they should stop. reminds me of a quote by Bill Watterson. "Genius is never understood in its own time." Howard Stern is Pats best friend and we both know you have no gag reflex.. that is what makes you so popular with the fellas.. :o
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Post by singingsparrow on Apr 3, 2010 15:35:36 GMT -5
fair enough. glad this song tickles your fancy. sadly it tickles my gag reflex. i found the lyrics abominable. i found monahan's vocals unbearable. and it's a shame because i know they are capable of writing (what i would consider to be) great pop songs with depth, insight, and originality. i write the column because, well, i want to. some find it very entertaining. most find it very annoying. perfect. there are many who hate jim carrey's slapstick antics, howard stern's off-color remarks, eminem's brutal lyrics. that doesn't mean they should stop. reminds me of a quote by Bill Watterson. "Genius is never understood in its own time." That's precisely why I believe I wasn't exaggerating at all when I ranked it among the Ten Worst Singles of 2009, in my opinion.............and to me it's even moreso justified now that it has become a colossal hit, and yet the band has proven they're capable of writing MUCH better material. Obviously a lot of interchangeable, mass-produced, superficial R&B and list songs on Country radio that blabber with AC/DC guitars "I'm much, much more countrier than thou art!", for instance, are technically worse than "Hey, Soul Sister". And yet, it isn't as though many of those acts are really interested in being artists, but rather simply selling images. Train, on the other hand, has demonstrated they value writing songs as much as they do writing infectious hooks, and is for THAT reason why "Hey, Soul Sister" made it into my Top Ten Worst above much of the obvious slop................because we know for a fact they've written mammothly superior songs that nonetheless also didn't sacrifice their hook-writing abilities in the process. Some may still insist "It's just catchy!". So was "Drops of Jupiter" and, as quirky as the lyrics were in that hit as well, they were also heartfelt. "Hey, Soul Sister", in my view, is just simply lazy songwriting. Monahan could have very easily name-dropped Frankie Miller Goes To Hollywood and Pat Benatar instead of Mr. Mister and Madonna in the lyrics, and it wouldn't have made a difference. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by zarasthustra on Apr 4, 2010 23:11:48 GMT -5
fair enough. glad this song tickles your fancy. sadly it tickles my gag reflex. i found the lyrics abominable. i found monahan's vocals unbearable. and it's a shame because i know they are capable of writing (what i would consider to be) great pop songs with depth, insight, and originality. i write the column because, well, i want to. some find it very entertaining. most find it very annoying. perfect. there are many who hate jim carrey's slapstick antics, howard stern's off-color remarks, eminem's brutal lyrics. that doesn't mean they should stop. reminds me of a quote by Bill Watterson. "Genius is never understood in its own time." That's precisely why I believe I wasn't exaggerating at all when I ranked it among the Ten Worst Singles of 2009, in my opinion.............and to me it's even moreso justified now that it has become a colossal hit, and yet the band has proven they're capable of writing MUCH better material. Obviously a lot of interchangeable, mass-produced, superficial R&B and list songs on Country radio that blabber with AC/DC guitars "I'm much, much more countrier than thou art!", for instance, are technically worse than "Hey, Soul Sister". And yet, it isn't as though many of those acts are really interested in being artists, but rather simply selling images. Train, on the other hand, has demonstrated they value writing songs as much as they do writing infectious hooks, and is for THAT reason why "Hey, Soul Sister" made it into my Top Ten Worst above much of the obvious slop................because we know for a fact they've written mammothly superior songs that nonetheless also didn't sacrifice their hook-writing abilities in the process. Some may still insist "It's just catchy!". So was "Drops of Jupiter" and, as quirky as the lyrics were in that hit as well, they were also heartfelt. "Hey, Soul Sister", in my view, is just simply lazy songwriting. Monahan could have very easily name-dropped Frankie Miller Goes To Hollywood and Pat Benatar instead of Mr. Mister and Garyn Fett in the lyrics, and it wouldn't have made a difference. There is alot of truth in what you say ... however Pat has never been lazy with regard to his song writing.. and while i would have loved a name check with reference to Frankie Goes to Hollywood.. or Cake..for that matter.. I have to love Pat for who he is.. and that is the most prolific assessment that I can deliver with regard to his talent :o Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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No Brake$
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Post by No Brake$ on Apr 4, 2010 23:13:55 GMT -5
I think this could return to #1 on Hot AC in about three weeks.
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shanas
Gold Member
Runnin' down a dream...
Joined: January 2010
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Post by shanas on Apr 5, 2010 23:19:04 GMT -5
I think this could return to #1 on Hot AC in about three weeks. I agree, this song is doing things that aren't seen very often...
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dreamer728
Charting
Joined: February 2010
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Post by dreamer728 on Apr 6, 2010 10:12:23 GMT -5
It's not the best written song. Still, good for them to come back after 10 years with a #1 that won't go away. It doesn't mean I have to like it though =)
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