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Post by MinusName on Oct 23, 2007 21:55:44 GMT -5
342 99 LIFEHOUSE Whatever It Takes 29 1 +28 0.113
Looks like this is the next single. 5 new stations playing it this week, including Salt Lake City which has had "Broken" in moderate rotation for a while now.
I think this should be able to go top 10 here finally giving them more than just one hit per album.
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Post by Rumors on Oct 24, 2007 4:52:04 GMT -5
You know over the years this band has received a lot of radio play. Unfortunately, their record sales just aren't in line with the amount of airplay they have received especially with their current album. Isn't it like 250k? They are the epitome of the term "radio artist." At least groups like GGDs and MB20 have been able to sell albums in the past. What do you think the difference is between the groups? Personally I think it's the charisma of the lead singer. Jason Wade simply does not come off as a star to anyone outside his small but dedicated fanbase. They do a good job of keeping Lifehouse high on ratethemusic.com and VH1's countdown but they can't create new music buying fans. Lifehouse has limited appeal.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Oct 24, 2007 7:24:12 GMT -5
What happened to "Broken"? ???
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Post by blurple on Oct 24, 2007 11:22:53 GMT -5
What happened to "Broken"? ???
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 24, 2007 15:38:25 GMT -5
342 99 LIFEHOUSE Whatever It Takes 29 1 +28 0.113 Looks like this is the next single. 5 new stations playing it this week, including Salt Lake City which has had "Broken" in moderate rotation for a while now. I think this should be able to go top 10 here finally giving them more than just one hit per album. Are u sure this is the next single? If those 5 stations are Modern AC, they might just be playin CD tracks, esp. until "Broken" goes for adds - seems hard for me to believe... I think Lifehouse is just waitin cause "First Time" is nearly at the top of CHR callout, so they don't wanna release anything else too soon... "Whatever It Takes" might just be a "stall track" for Modern ACs that need somethin new even though it's not goin for adds -
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Post by Chase on Oct 24, 2007 15:49:32 GMT -5
Both "Whatever It Takes" and "Broken" certainly both have single potential. My only concern with "Broken" is the lengthy (30-second) "double chorus" of sorts, the first of which starts with "I'm falling apart..." and the second of which begins with "So I'm holding on..." It doesn't have an instantly catchy, concise chorus, which could prevent it from gaining status as a huge CHR hit.
As for Hot AC, it's hard to say. I truly believe that a single edit of "Broken" would be more successful than the album version, given the present state of radio. "Whatever It Takes" has the radio accessibility of "The First Time" and might prove to be a solid "buffer" track between "The First Time" and a possible smash like "Broken."
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 24, 2007 17:41:48 GMT -5
^There are a bunch of online polls Lifehouse has put out, and "Whatever It Takes" is actually pretty far ahead of "Broken" (among Lifehouse fans who own the CD) - so I guess they're still not sure - I just think "Broken" is gonna be huge whether it's released next or third - agree with whoever said they have to edit it down some, but don't think that'll be much of a problem
Personally, I wish they'd remix "Storm" so that it's more radio-friendly - IMO it's absolutely ingenious!!
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Post by Chase on Oct 24, 2007 20:46:02 GMT -5
Personally, I wish they'd remix "Storm" so that it's more radio-friendly - IMO it's absolutely ingenious!! ^We need to get Fatboy Slim, William Orbit, or Mark Ronson on that.
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Post by roentgenizdat on Oct 25, 2007 12:35:32 GMT -5
BOOKED: Lifehouse - Frank Borin, director
artist: Lifehouse song: "Whatever It Takes" label: Geffen director(s): Frank Borin production co: Shadow Screen/Factory Features rep: Yell Productions
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 25, 2007 14:52:54 GMT -5
Personally, I wish they'd remix "Storm" so that it's more radio-friendly - IMO it's absolutely ingenious!! ^We need to get Fatboy Slim, William Orbit, or Mark Ronson on that.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Oct 25, 2007 16:15:59 GMT -5
BOOKED: Lifehouse - Frank Borin, director artist: Lifehouse song: "Whatever It Takes" label: Geffen director(s): Frank Borin production co: Shadow Screen/Factory Features rep: Yell Productions Where did you find that?
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 25, 2007 18:15:19 GMT -5
I'm thinkin maybe they backed off "Broken" cause it has too similar a feel to "Apologize" to be out on HAC and CHR at the same time - can't imagine it wouldn't be their third single though...
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Oct 26, 2007 13:11:46 GMT -5
194 68 LIFEHOUSE Whatever It Takes 2007 Geffen 69 3 66 0.204
This song is "taking off" considering it's not technically a single yet.
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Post by Timmy on Oct 26, 2007 15:48:03 GMT -5
i figured Whatever it Takes would be the next single ever since they changed their myspace song to it. i hope it does well!
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Post by Chase on Oct 26, 2007 17:52:56 GMT -5
^There are a bunch of online polls Lifehouse has put out, and "Whatever It Takes" is actually pretty far ahead of "Broken" (among Lifehouse fans who own the CD) - so I guess they're still not sure - I just think "Broken" is gonna be huge whether it's released next or third - agree with whoever said they have to edit it down some, but don't think that'll be much of a problem Personally, I wish they'd remix "Storm" so that it's more radio-friendly - IMO it's absolutely ingenious!! It's definitely a sweet way to end the record, much like "Home" is a solid and surprising closer to the Foo Fighters' latest record. I hope Lifehouse is able to go deep into this record, just to smash the idea of being a one hit per album band. If this does well, I'd count on "Broken" as the third single and maybe "Disarray" to close out the era.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Oct 26, 2007 18:11:05 GMT -5
What about the title track; "Who we Are"?
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Post by Chase on Oct 26, 2007 21:04:56 GMT -5
What about the title track; "Who we Are"? It's a toss-up. I'd give the edge to Disarray, but it's a slight edge at best.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Oct 26, 2007 21:25:31 GMT -5
What about the title track; "Who we Are"? It's a toss-up. I'd give the edge to Disarray, but it's a slight edge at best. "Disarray" is probably my favorite song out of any band.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Oct 26, 2007 22:06:57 GMT -5
I'm dissapointed that they're releasing this over "Broken". Whoever made this decision made the wrong one, IMO.
Lifehouse is just asking for another one-hit album.
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Oct 26, 2007 22:44:45 GMT -5
I'm dissapointed that they're releasing this over "Broken". Whoever made this decision made the wrong one, IMO. Lifehouse is just asking for another one-hit album. I think they're just playing it safe. "Broken" really isn't radio friendly and it takes forever for the song to get good. But who knows, maybe they'll release it after WIT if it does well on Hot AC which I think it will.
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 27, 2007 14:00:01 GMT -5
I'm dissapointed that they're releasing this over "Broken". Whoever made this decision made the wrong one, IMO. Lifehouse is just asking for another one-hit album. I think they're just playing it safe. "Broken" really isn't radio friendly and it takes forever for the song to get good. But who knows, maybe they'll release it after WIT if it does well on Hot AC which I think it will. "Broken" is def. gonna get released IMO (really can't imagine them not doin it...) - I really think they're waitin til "Apologize" has died down since don't think CHR can take two such similar-mood songs at the same time...that would also explain why they first announced "Broken" would be the second single (before "Apologize" got big) and then backed off on it
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Post by Kid Pulse on Oct 27, 2007 20:12:20 GMT -5
"Broken" was a perfect release for this time of year, Lifehouse ruined the success that they could have achieved with this album.
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Post by Chase on Oct 27, 2007 23:36:15 GMT -5
"Apologize" is much more rhythmic leaning, so I don't see it contending with "Broken." I guess it's a moot point anyway.
I can see "Broken" as a late winter/early spring hit. I think that Whatever It Takes will peak somewhere in the Top 20, MAYBE flirting with the Top 10 depending on the climate of Hot AC, but I have a feeling it will be quick to rise and quick to fall. It certainly won't have the longevity that First Time enjoyed, so "Broken" could be released late February or early March perhaps?
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Post by MinusName on Oct 28, 2007 11:37:21 GMT -5
"Apologize" is much more rhythmic leaning, so I don't see it contending with "Broken." I guess it's a moot point anyway. I can see "Broken" as a late winter/early spring hit. I think that Whatever It Takes will peak somewhere in the Top 20, MAYBE flirting with the Top 10 depending on the climate of Hot AC, but I have a feeling it will be quick to rise and quick to fall. It certainly won't have the longevity that First Time enjoyed, so "Broken" could be released late February or early March perhaps? I doubt Lifehouse would release a song that quickly. If anything, the next single probably won't be out until April at the earliest. This album has only sold 215K. I think even Stanley Climbfall sold more than that and "First Time" was a much bigger hit than "Spin." I realize that a lot of people bought it because of the success of their first album, but still, I would think it could've sold at least 400k by now.
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 28, 2007 14:11:26 GMT -5
"Apologize" is much more rhythmic leaning, so I don't see it contending with "Broken." Sorry I meant on CHR (keep forgettin to specify that on this panel my bad) - but I think it makes sense cause Lifehouse can't release "Broken" To HAC now and then wait til "Apologize" has died down on CHR to release it there Another positive note...KUDD/Salt Lake has "Broken" in heavy rotation, meaning I think that it's gettin good callout - so I def. think it's gonna be a big hit, just not yet...
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Post by rpmike3 on Oct 28, 2007 22:26:15 GMT -5
Jason ( lead singer ) said that this was the next single tonight at the concert in Grand Rapids. I expect that it will do well at this format.
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Post by judithgiuliani on Oct 28, 2007 23:51:06 GMT -5
If this is the 2nd single there will be no 3rd single because this will do nothing on CHR and the album will not even pass the 300,000 mark.
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 29, 2007 12:09:20 GMT -5
If this is the 2nd single there will be no 3rd single because this will do nothing on CHR and the album will not even pass the 300,000 mark. I really gotta disagree with that - if this starts to flop they'll get on "Broken" quickly IMO (like Nickelback originally got on "If Everyone Cared" when "Rockstar" started the flop THE FIRST TIME AROUND)... "First Time" has really high Callout scores on CHR, so there'll be a lot of more mainstream CHR stations looking for a second hit from this Lifehouse CD - if they don't find it in "Whatever It Takes," I think they'll start gettin on "Broken" Also, don't think CD sales affect ability to release successful singles to Hot AC - the Goo Goo Dolls have basically proven that twice - with their last two CDs
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Post by judithgiuliani on Oct 30, 2007 7:40:53 GMT -5
Maybe if "Whatever It Takes" flops on both Hot AC and CHR, then they will rush release Broken. But it is doubtfull that this will happen it will probably do very well on Hot AC and do almost nothing on CHR leaving the single out there. Gutterflower sold nearly a million copies and Let Love In is at around 500,000 and both got three singles. Lifehouse is at around 200,000 and way out of the top 100. If their second single does not spur sales which it will not unless CHR picks it up then that level of sales does not warrant a third single.
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Post by atlantaboy on Oct 30, 2007 17:42:51 GMT -5
Maybe if "Whatever It Takes" flops on both Hot AC and CHR, then they will rush release Broken. But it is doubtfull that this will happen it will probably do very well on Hot AC and do almost nothing on CHR leaving the single out there. Gutterflower sold nearly a million copies and Let Love In is at around 500,000 and both got three singles. Lifehouse is at around 200,000 and way out of the top 100. If their second single does not spur sales which it will not unless CHR picks it up then that level of sales does not warrant a third single. Yeah I didn't realize Lifehouse's current sales were that low...but I'm still not sure that CD sales preclude bands from releasing singles to Hot AC - Vertical Horizon's "Go" eventually produced three singles to Hot AC...and seems like "First Time"'s extremely high CHR callout scores will spark interest in releasing another hit single to more mainstream CHRs If "Whatever It Takes" flops on CHR (regardless of how it does on HAC), I don't think that precludes CHR from gettin on "Broken" if it's released as the third single, esp. since Lifehouse is a core HAC band, and CHR just picks up whatever hits appeal to its younger listeners If this happens, I think it'll be a similar situation to U2's CD where CHRs played the first single ("Beautiful Day"), the second single flopped on CHR but did alright on HAC ("Walk On"), and then CHR picked up on the third single as well as HAC ("Stuck In A Moment...") I know comparing U2's CD sales to Lifehouse's is ridiculous, but I think the extremely positive callout scores of "First Time" override the importance of CD sales in releasing follow-up singles
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