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Post by MostInterestingManInTheWorld on Apr 29, 2011 18:05:37 GMT -5
I almost feel that sending Don't You Forget About Me would have been a better choice for radio. And the irony of both song titles is really scary... Please tell me he didn't cover Simple Minds.
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Post by fluffyb on Apr 29, 2011 19:49:12 GMT -5
Does anyone know how many radio stations have added the song ?
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 29, 2011 19:51:27 GMT -5
I almost feel that sending Don't You Forget About Me would have been a better choice for radio. Definitely agree with this - I wonder if they'll still consider it, even though it's not on the album
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Post by jaytee on Apr 29, 2011 19:52:40 GMT -5
Does anyone know how many radio stations have added the song ? 4 HAC, 1 Top 40
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 29, 2011 19:54:29 GMT -5
Please tell me he didn't cover Simple Minds. It's the goodbye song on Idol. Doesn't appear to be on the album. It's still a cover of Simple Minds (not sure if you meant it wasn't...)
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Post by mrclimbfall20 on Apr 29, 2011 22:13:28 GMT -5
I almost feel that sending Don't You Forget About Me would have been a better choice for radio. And the irony of both song titles is really scary... Is that song from this album?
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Post by keepitreal on Apr 29, 2011 22:31:13 GMT -5
I thought it was an exact karaoke copy of the original except for the growling and shouty parts. It did remind me how much I love that song and went and downloaded the original. Sometimes I feel like he's yelling at me.
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Post by out of reach on Apr 29, 2011 22:51:45 GMT -5
yea not a good start but the adds date is next week I believe. His live performances have only contributed moderate sales, he's going to need radio airplay for any chance of selling a decent amount of albums unless they release a second single that's much better.
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Post by sunnyskies99 on Apr 30, 2011 14:24:49 GMT -5
I already feel like this song comes off better live than it does on the studio version. The vocals don't seem to fit with the instrumental track very well. But it's catchier than "Light On" was and at least on par with "Come Back To Me".
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Post by keepitreal on May 2, 2011 20:41:06 GMT -5
5/2/2011
The Last Goodbye
Total 9 adds- 8 HAC 1 AC
KLLC-FM (Hot AC) San Francisco #4 KMXB-FM (Hot AC) Las Vegas #33 WWFS-FM (AC) New York #1 KCIX-FM (Hot AC) Boise #101 KHKZ-FM (Hot AC) McAllen, TX #59 KLTG-FM (Hot AC) Corpus Christi #137 KPEK-FM (Hot AC) Albuquerque #68 KUCD-FM (Hot AC) Honolulu #64 WAYV-FM (Hot AC) Atlantic City #142
iTunes: #811- The Last Goodbye - David Cook (#241 Pop)
Amazon: The Loud Morning TLM (CD/DVD) - #759 in Music TLM (CD Only) - #923 in Music
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Post by central80 on May 3, 2011 7:55:56 GMT -5
This song is being outsold on I-tunes by an obscure piece of chamber music Kate Middleton marched into Westminster Abbey on during her wedding to Prince Wills. Barring massive amounts of money spent by RCA to promo or payola this thing, I'm not afraid to begin calling this song done. I read somewhere Cook said this was one of the most 'upbeat' song on the CD? Does that mean code for the one most likely to be played on the radio? If so, tsk, tsk. I've seen videos from his performance in DC this past weekend, he sang a few songs off the upcoming CD and I'm not that impressed with them either.
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Post by jaytee on May 3, 2011 9:35:59 GMT -5
This song is being outsold on I-tunes by an obscure piece of chamber music Kate Middleton marched into Westminster Abbey on during her wedding to Prince Wills. . No songs with this little radio exposure (ie. none) sell well unless they're first releases from pop divas. Yeah, this song didn't sell so hot after the Idol performance, but I think it's premature to call the song dead. If it hits at HAC, sales will follow.
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Post by out of reach on May 3, 2011 10:59:01 GMT -5
This song is being outsold on I-tunes by an obscure piece of chamber music Kate Middleton marched into Westminster Abbey on during her wedding to Prince Wills. . No songs with this little radio exposure (ie. none) sell well unless they're first releases from pop divas. Yeah, this song didn't sell so hot after the Idol performance, but I think it's premature to call the song dead. If it hits at HAC, sales will follow. I agree, while it's not very encouraging it is too early. We need to give it a few more weeks and see if HAC picks it up. Right now it has 11 total adds.
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Post by greenlight on May 3, 2011 12:01:30 GMT -5
I agree that the response to the idol performance wasn't very encouraging, but looking at the AllAccess spincrease chart, the radio play is decent so far, and it is much too early to make predictions.
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Post by Hook on May 3, 2011 13:52:40 GMT -5
Yeah I wouldn't call it dead just yet. Yes, he's an Idol winner, which makes the early response a bit disappointing. But he's also targeting Hot AC only. And as we know, unfortunately HAC doesn't really sell much, especially not so early in a song's run.
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Post by Rumors on May 3, 2011 18:16:02 GMT -5
I think what the low initial single sales indicate is that David probably doesn't have as large a devoted fanbase as people might think since he is an idol winner. The song should have initially spiked pretty high (top 20 on itunes) from devoted fans without any radio play. I'm not saying that this song won't eventually be a hit but his camp can't be happy with the initial response.
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Post by central80 on May 3, 2011 20:03:15 GMT -5
I think what the low initial single sales indicate is that David probably doesn't have as large a devoted fanbase as people might think since he is an idol winner. The song should have initially spiked pretty high (top 20 on itunes) from devoted fans without any radio play. I'm not saying that this song won't eventually be a hit but his camp can't be happy with the initial response. I agree. The song is dying on Itunes, it's out of the top 1000 songs (#1016), so whatever is going to happen to turn this current failure to catch on around better get cranking. Anyone want to hazard a guess about just what happened to Cook's fans? He toured almost endlessly in 2009, RCA and 19e got him the best publicity money could buy - where are his fans? And why does the general media and public feel so meh about this return? Reading the boards in several places, his fans are still operating under a lot of delusions about the size of his fanbase and his popularity outside of the so called Idol bubble, and are clinging to the last hope that HAC radio play will be the savior for this single, and his credibility as a relevant artist. Does HAC radio have enough juice in AI and exposure to be of significant help for this song? I'm not trying to be negative, I just don't have a good gut feeling about this single, or this sophomore era for him.
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Post by out of reach on May 3, 2011 21:31:23 GMT -5
well, imo he waited to long. As an artist he doesn't generate any buzz or controversy. He needed a strong single and performance and honestly his performances and the song for that matter are forgettable. This coming from someone who likes David too.
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Post by Kurt on May 4, 2011 0:05:17 GMT -5
Anyone want to hazard a guess about just what happened to Cook's fans? He toured almost endlessly in 2009, RCA and 19e got him the best publicity money could buy - where are his fans? They're certainly a strong force on Twitter...tweet anything good about David or TLG and they jump on it insanely quickly, haha. (It's been good promo for my station/forum, at least! hehe) I guess I'm in the minority, because I like this. Kinda wish he'd go for a "rockier" sound, though..."Bar-ba-sol" on the last album was great.
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Post by trei1658 on May 4, 2011 6:51:14 GMT -5
"The Last Goodbye" Music Video per Video Static BOOKED: David Cook - Nigel Dick, dir. artist: David Cook song: "The Last Goodbye" label: 19/RCA director(s): Nigel Dick production co: DNA Nigel Dick has directed videos for Nickleback (4), Sheryl Crow & Sting, Pussycat Dolls, Brian McFadden, John Mayer, Britney spears, Oasis and others. www.videostatic.com/vs/rca/index.html
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Post by Renzokuken on May 4, 2011 7:31:59 GMT -5
I hope this doesnt follow "Something Bout Love's" footsteps
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Post by sunnyskies99 on May 4, 2011 8:17:37 GMT -5
well, imo he waited to long. As an artist he doesn't generate any buzz or controversy. He needed a strong single and performance and honestly his performances and the song for that matter are forgettable. This coming from someone who likes David too. I agree with this. There has been a long waiting period while this album was being recorded. David's a road dog and I think the atmosphere and number of his live shows might have tricked his fans into thinking he's a slightly hotter commodity than he actually is. This song is going to need more of a push. Meanwhile, he's debut album still charts on iTunes, so if the song can get some decent play, it may remind people he's still around.
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Post by esoteric76 on May 4, 2011 10:28:02 GMT -5
well, imo he waited to long. As an artist he doesn't generate any buzz or controversy. He needed a strong single and performance and honestly his performances and the song for that matter are forgettable. This coming from someone who likes David too. I agree with this. There has been a long waiting period while this album was being recorded. David's a road dog and I think the atmosphere and number of his live shows might have tricked his fans into thinking he's a slightly hotter commodity than he actually is. This song is going to need more of a push. Meanwhile, he's debut album still charts on iTunes, so if the song can get some decent play, it may remind people he's still around. Agree with all of the above. Most of us really like David. I think he's got an unbelievable voice, one of the best, but this song just doesn't cut it. With all of the writers at RCA's disposal, this has got to be one of the most disappointing lead singles I've seen them push. Really no excuse. The fact that David's performance of the song on Idol was so forgettable, certainly did not help. But, I think it really comes down to the song itself, which has nothing going for it.
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Post by crazychick on May 4, 2011 12:12:49 GMT -5
It's too soon to write the song off. It got a decent number of adds this week and if they can get the video out soon, that should help. But if a song doesn't crossover to CHR, it's just hard to sell a ton of copies if you aren't (A) a huge star already or (B) in a genre like country, where you can sell well without having to crossover to Pop
I do wonder if the 2 1/2 years between albums was too long, though, especially since while David was touring constantly, he wasn't getting much national promotion. At least not after the first couple months.
Has he done any of the talk show rounds with this single yet? I thought I saw he was on Ellen, but has he been on Leno or Letterman or Conan to promote this yet?
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Post by tinawina on May 4, 2011 12:23:51 GMT -5
I guess I'm in the minority, because I like this. Kinda wish he'd go for a "rockier" sound, though..."Bar-ba-sol" on the last album was great. I like it too, and I didn't like Light On at all. Its lonely over here. Has he done any of the talk show rounds with this single yet? I thought I saw he was on Ellen, but has he been on Leno or Letterman or Conan to promote this yet? I think they are saving that kind of stuff for the album drop. Right now he seems to be focused on a ridiculous amount of radio promo. That's a good thing I suppose.
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Post by bamaefule on May 4, 2011 13:07:55 GMT -5
It sucks that the label has pumped a decent amount of money into exposing Cook and still there has been minimal return. Did his last album hit platinum? If not, it won't surprise me if the label gets lazy with promoting him. No need to waste money on something that isn't going to sell.
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Post by out of reach on May 4, 2011 13:11:49 GMT -5
Aww, sends Tina a hug. I actually like Light On, it has a strong chorus.
David's promo is not over and yes radio may eventually pick it up but it doesn't bode well when after Ellen and Idol his sales are not good. They should consider releasing a second single before the album drop. Time Marches On is really strong.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 13:22:40 GMT -5
It sucks that the label has pumped a decent amount of money into exposing Cook and still there has been minimal return. Did his last album hit platinum? If not, it won't surprise me if the label gets lazy with promoting him. No need to waste money on something that isn't going to sell. If I recall correctly, his first album was the last Idol winner's album to reach platinum.
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Post by bamaefule on May 4, 2011 13:26:54 GMT -5
It sucks that the label has pumped a decent amount of money into exposing Cook and still there has been minimal return. Did his last album hit platinum? If not, it won't surprise me if the label gets lazy with promoting him. No need to waste money on something that isn't going to sell. If I recall correctly, his first album was the last Idol winner's album to reach platinum. I see. It's still weird that he has performed on both AI and Ellen's show and people still don't seem to be responding to his song. Maybe it just isn't the right time for him?
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Post by atlantaboy on May 4, 2011 15:20:53 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, his first album was the last Idol winner's album to reach platinum. I see. It's still weird that he has performed on both AI and Ellen's show and people still don't seem to be responding to his song. Maybe it just isn't the right time for him? Or maybe people don't like the song cause it's really bad...it doesn't matter how many times you perform a bad song - people aren't gonna start liking it more
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