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Post by slamina on Jul 17, 2011 20:19:46 GMT -5
Paper Heart would probably be my choice as well. I think it is one of the few songs on the album that has a pretty strong hook for a chorus (at least compared to the rest of the album). There aren't too many radio-friendly choices imo, but this song would be their best bet.
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Post by perfectsmile on Jul 22, 2011 13:39:01 GMT -5
What are they waiting for? New single please!
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Post by MFM29 on Jul 22, 2011 20:44:36 GMT -5
Paper heart please!
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Post by trei1658 on Jul 23, 2011 12:09:51 GMT -5
VH1 Top 20 Music Video Countdown 07.23.2011
#01 David Cook “The Last Goodbye” [6|1] [+1] New Peak, First #1 Video since June 2009
Congratulations David!!!!!! --------------------------------------------------- Rick Dees HOT ADULT 07-23-2011 #29 The Last Goodbye David Cook
----------------------------------------------------- American Top 40 (Hot AC) July 23-24, 2011 AT40 Breakout: David Cook-The Last Goodbye
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Post by secretchef on Jul 25, 2011 7:56:09 GMT -5
Ok RCA, what now? VH1 #1 and countdown spins and nothing can get this song back into the Top 1000. Time to move on.
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Post by esoteric76 on Jul 25, 2011 10:54:32 GMT -5
They should throw a sticker on the album citing the "#1 hit, The Last Goodbye," lol. But seriously, considering the indifference to this song, getting it #1 on ANY chart is remarkable!
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Post by idolman88 on Jul 25, 2011 12:07:00 GMT -5
Ok RCA, what now? VH1 #1 and countdown spins and nothing can get this song back into the Top 1000. Time to move on. Agreed. Bad choice from the get-go with little listener response or radio excitement. TIME FOR A NEW SINGLE RCA.
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Post by Rumors on Jul 25, 2011 18:01:11 GMT -5
They should throw a sticker on the album citing the "#1 hit, The Last Goodbye," lol. But seriously, considering the indifference to this song, getting it #1 on ANY chart is remarkable! Easy. On line fan voting on VH1 (he has that - see all the glowing reviews on amazon and itunes) and a little encouragement from his label. Any tour news? That's what he needs. He needs to get these new songs on the road somehow and have people talking about him again. I personally think he really needs to consider an opening spot on a big tour. He went the small venue, headlining route mainly the first time out and I don't think that exposed him to too many people who weren't already fans from Idol. I think he's paying the price now. And I have to wonder about the major lack of radio support. Maybe stations haven't been that impressed with what they saw on tour. I don't know but something just isn't clicking. My one suggestion is for him to forget about playing the guitar for a few songs and engage the audience more. The Walmart Soundcheck was boring.
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Post by overboard on Jul 25, 2011 19:54:35 GMT -5
A new single is going to do him nothing. Radio is going to ignore it like they ignored this one. News of him touring with a big act is best case scenario.
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Post by rosemoor on Jul 27, 2011 8:04:53 GMT -5
He needs to get these new songs on the road somehow and have people talking about him again. I personally think he really needs to consider an opening spot on a big tour. He went the small venue, headlining route mainly the first time out and I don't think that exposed him to too many people who weren't already fans from Idol. I think he's paying the price now. I think the impact of opening for a big tour is way overrated, at least in cook's case. His music is too mediocre to make people sit up and pay attention, if it didn't catch any attention of radio's 3 million audiences, I can't imagine it doing much to tens of thousands people who go to see other bands. Hot Chelle Rae didn't get much from opening for Cook, they got people's attention by their hit single on radio now. Owl City opened for tons of big tour last year, but they still bombed this time because they don't have a Fireflies. I only see touring doing wonders for some indie bands when their music are really unique and garnered great critics reviews and really have no chance on mainstream radio.
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Post by out of reach on Jul 27, 2011 8:44:53 GMT -5
I agree, being an opening act is not good. Most people don't care, they just wait for the headliner.
I wish him him the best but I think he needs to find where he fits.
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Post by trei1658 on Jul 31, 2011 7:54:31 GMT -5
VH1 Top 20 Music Video Countdown 07.30.2011
#02 David Cook “The Last Goodbye” [7|1] [-1]
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----------------------------------------------------- American Top 40 (Hot AC) July 30-31, 2011 AT40 Breakout: David Cook-The Last Goodbye
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Post by trei1658 on Jul 31, 2011 8:04:14 GMT -5
I agree, being an opening act is not good. Most people don't care, they just wait for the headliner. I wish him him the best but I think he needs to find where he fits. So how do you expect David to expand his music past his core fanbase? His album sales were tepid, his single has failed to connect to a wider audience on radio and the label seems to be unwilling to invest in another single. Just playing shows to his core fans is not going to help him now or in the future. Being an opener may not have an immediate impact but may help in the future connect to a wider audience. He could always mix in solo or co-headlining dates while opening for others. In the end, it is going to be all about the music and if it is connecting with the public at large (radio).
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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 31, 2011 14:49:24 GMT -5
This thread has 27,000 VIEWS!!! I'm pretty sure this is the most viewed Hot AC thread of all time...(and the song hasn't even done that well )
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Post by Kurt on Jul 31, 2011 15:27:58 GMT -5
This thread has 27,000 VIEWS!!! I'm pretty sure this is the most viewed Hot AC thread of all time...(and the song hasn't even done that well ) (You can sort by page views: pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=aaa&field=views&order=desc&page=1)Other than the sticky "Hot AC / Triple A Charts" thread, it's in third behind "Whataya Want From Me" and "Viva La Vida" (and will likely pass the latter very soon). How ironic.
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Post by atlantaboy on Aug 1, 2011 0:38:45 GMT -5
This thread has 27,000 VIEWS!!! I'm pretty sure this is the most viewed Hot AC thread of all time...(and the song hasn't even done that well ) (You can sort by page views: pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=aaa&field=views&order=desc&page=1)Other than the sticky "Hot AC / Triple A Charts" thread, it's in third behind "Whataya Want From Me" and "Viva La Vida" (and will likely pass the latter very soon). How ironic. I think it's weird though how people are gonna look back on this thread a year from now and not even remember the song - threads about Lambert, and Viva La Vida, I can understand
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Post by out of reach on Aug 1, 2011 2:19:53 GMT -5
I agree, being an opening act is not good. Most people don't care, they just wait for the headliner. I wish him him the best but I think he needs to find where he fits. So how do you expect David to expand his music past his core fanbase? His album sales were tepid, his single has failed to connect to a wider audience on radio and the label seems to be unwilling to invest in another single. Just playing shows to his core fans is not going to help him now or in the future. Being an opener may not have an immediate impact but may help in the future connect to a wider audience. He could always mix in solo or co-headlining dates while opening for others. In the end, it is going to be all about the music and if it is connecting with the public at large (radio). Imo in order to attract fans beyond his core fan base he needs radio airplay or promo/marketing. His label obviously made a poor decision with the single and continued to support it even though the audience at large was not. I honestly don't know exactly what he needs to do, I think that maybe his music just doesn't fit the popular formats and as an artist and he is not interesting to the media. Sad but that's how I feel about a number of talented artists that get shafted by the state of music today. As far as opening acts go, the difference it makes is marginal. I have seen a fair number of opening acts who only had major success once they had singles on the charts.
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Post by esoteric76 on Aug 1, 2011 12:37:05 GMT -5
David and the label had all the time in the world, and we got subpar material. The audience knows this, and that's why no one is talking about his album, and his single is flopping.
The thread is getting so many views, because we're talking about an American Idol WINNER, here. Basically, an insta-superstar, who has all the talent in the world, but lower than B-list material to work with. If I were the label, I'd either start over entirely, or just drop him, and have him start over with a smaller label that can give him their undivided attention. This Loud Morning, like fetch, is not gonna happen.
Even you guys that remotely like this single, pretty much know that he's capable of so much more. He needs a hit. Maybe put him on a soundtrack, with a hot producer, give him ONE song, and release that as a single. Start smaller, and build from that maybe?
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Post by Kurt on Aug 1, 2011 14:57:53 GMT -5
This Loud Morning, like fetch, is not gonna happen. lol! I actually think that there are a few single-worthy songs on the album (which is my favorite album of the year, save 21, actually). "Paper Heart" would do well on HAC, I think, and "Time Marches On" could be a single for rock formats. I won't claim to know what makes a great single, but it's fairly obvious that "The Last Goodbye" hasn't done and isn't doing much, so I think it's time to move on to the second single. /preaching to the choir
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Post by Rumors on Aug 2, 2011 20:06:18 GMT -5
Why so many views in this thread? Same reason David won a radio station's Sexiest Man contest this week with something like 400,000 votes. His fans are crazy nuts for him and are on the internet casting votes anywhere and everywhere they can. Idols EXCEL in anything internet based. However, out in the real world it may not be so great. Taking the show and the fans you get from it iand translating that into a career is the tricky part. So far there's a real big question mark around David. It just makes you wonder how many times his most devoted lets say 1,000 fans have voted for him and purchased his albums. Without that small, devoted base there may not be much. Just look how well Idols do. Do you think David Cook can outsell John Mayer or Rob Thomas or even Pat Mohanon for that matter. That's why these kinds of things can really be misleading. mix941fm.radio.com/2011/07/05/who-will-be-crowned-the-sexiest-man-of-mix/My opinion...very nice guy, cute, very strong voice but it isn't all that unique, so-so songwriter, lacks charisma on stage. I had the same opinion of him while he was on Idol and he hasn't done anything to change my opinion. I was also just reading that Adam Lambert has a new album coming out this Fall. It will surely do well in a lot of international markets because he has become a pretty big story outside of the US unlike most Idols. I'm just curious how he will do in the US. Will he come out with a hit song? That's the key and that's the one big thing that has stalled David's promise at this time.
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Post by trei1658 on Aug 5, 2011 9:20:18 GMT -5
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Post by trei1658 on Aug 5, 2011 9:26:21 GMT -5
Don't expect a change anytime soon. Wednesday, August 3, 2011 - 12:08 rca ed: Let me assure you guys that RCA won't hesitate to move onto a second single if "TLG" truly proves to have run its course at radio. But, with all due respect, we'll know precisely when that time comes, not you guys. In the meantime, your efforts to request the song from your local stations and vote for the video across the web (not to mention your votes for sexiest man alive or whatever - LOL) are anything but wasted efforts - all of them add up to greater exposure for David. You guys may be tired of pushing "TLG" out there so enthusiastically for all these months (heck, I'm tired of it too!), but don't forget that new consumers are hearing the song for the first time with every radio or video spin - that's how mass-level music consumption works. Back when I was working Nickelback's 'All the Right Reasons' and watching between 40,000 and 20,000 albums being sold every week for 2 straight years, I was constantly reminded that thousands of people were discovering Nickelback for the first time ever that week! Or, at the very least, new consumers were being prompted to act on a purchase of a CD after hearing a single for the first, third, or fifth time at radio and realizing they wanted to hear more. In sum, music promotion is a process of long-term strategic attrition (oooh, I'll have to save that phrase to use again later), and that means those of you who partake with us in that long-term process are bound to feel more impatient than 99% of the less invested fans and potential consumers out there. In short: I don't blame you guys for feeling that way, but it's not you I'm trying to convince to buy TLM. www.davidcookofficial.com/us/content/rca-eds-corner-send-your-suggestions-feedback-ideas-and-yes-well-try-answer-odd-question-too
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Post by trei1658 on Aug 5, 2011 16:12:54 GMT -5
Is that guy for real? I guess if he's been posting like that for a while on the official site, he must be. He is for real. He is the official RCA moderator for most of the idol sites. He is "in the know" as he puts it. From Idol Chatter Single Sales last week; David Cook, The Last Goodbye (1,200/45,000)
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Post by slamina on Aug 5, 2011 18:45:28 GMT -5
lol, are they honestly going to stand by a single that has sold only 45k after all this time? A dud's a dud, and this song is a dud. But hey if they want to waste their time, they can go right ahead.
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Post by Gravity. on Aug 5, 2011 21:50:28 GMT -5
I actually kind of liked this song. Cook is talented, but I've always thought that he was the Idol that was pushed to the side. I get the feeling that his label doesn't know exactly what format to target.
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Post by trei1658 on Aug 6, 2011 11:34:14 GMT -5
VH1 Top 20 Music Video Countdown 08.06.2011 #08 David Cook “The Last Goodbye” [8|1(1x)] [-6] Note: The video has been dropped from the VH1 Playlist published for the Week of 8/8/11 www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=16025Rick Dees HOT ADULT 08-06-2011 #29 The Last Goodbye David Cook AT40 HAC for Aug 6/7 The Last Goodbye David Cook AT40 breakout song (3rd week in a row)
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Post by MostInterestingManInTheWorld on Aug 6, 2011 23:28:50 GMT -5
I actually kind of liked this song. Cook is talented, but I've always thought that he was the Idol that was pushed to the side. I get the feeling that his label doesn't know exactly what format to target. If they've got a guy working with him who's worked with Nickelback and Daughtry, that kind of says something. Yep, it says Cook will be quickly added to your tool shed.
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Post by trei1658 on Aug 12, 2011 8:39:15 GMT -5
BB200 Wks On 2Wks LW TW Artist Name Album Title TW % CHG LW Total 6 73 94 142 COOK*DAVID THIS LOUD MORNING 3691 -25 4925 80955
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