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Post by Lozzy on Oct 20, 2012 5:35:49 GMT -5
22 19 CHRISTINA AGUILERA Your Body 3802 3778 24 21.947
− 20 spins − 75 bullet − 0.405 audience
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Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 20, 2012 8:26:31 GMT -5
Love Plastic- I understand your point about promo, but, to me, it isn't the be-all-and-end-all that some like to think it is. We've seen some acts through their career shoot videos, drop the album, do no performances leading up to the release or during release week and- boom- the single and album do fine. But perhaps an act like Aguilera does "need" it, who knows. it wouldn't hurt, but the question is: Would it help all that much? She did performances for the lead single from Bionic, didn't she? She also wasn't on The Voice at that time.
Nonetheless, she probably will have a Voice performance and then there's the AMAs. So it's not like the era will go performance-less. :)
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Post by KMJ1 on Oct 20, 2012 10:35:17 GMT -5
22 19 CHRISTINA AGUILERA Your Body 3802 3778 24 21.947 − 20 spins − 75 bullet − 0.405 audience
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Post by NeRD on Oct 20, 2012 10:57:28 GMT -5
Well...
I guess its best for her to just debut the second single on The Voice/AMA's since it looks like this one is done.
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Post by Nicolexo on Oct 20, 2012 11:05:56 GMT -5
Well... I guess its best for her to just debut the second single on The Voice/AMA's since it looks like this one is done. Unfortunately I think she's just gonna do the typical Christina thing and perform a ballad at the AMA's. In an interview she said she's "looking forward to showing off a different side of the album"...making it sound like it'll be a ballad. Hopefully a ballad isn't the actual second single though.
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Post by silab on Oct 20, 2012 11:31:46 GMT -5
Don't get it, this is like one of the best songs out right now and it is flopping already.
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Post by QAF on Oct 20, 2012 11:55:21 GMT -5
This song flopping is catastrophic.
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Post by think pink. on Oct 20, 2012 15:53:01 GMT -5
I can't believe NMT, the song that sunk her career last era was a bigger hit than this .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 16:10:05 GMT -5
This is on the edge of losing its bullet :(
I seriously can't believe this is doing badly on the CHR charts. I don't remember the last time I was hoping so much for a song to smash...
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Post by GivesYouHell on Oct 20, 2012 17:39:28 GMT -5
I cannot think of a comeback right now where the artist basically heaved out a song and then watched what happened instead of actively pushing it. Britney didn't perform the song until 2 months after its release and she hadn't had a top 10 hit on the CHR chart since 'Everytime' 4 years before.
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Post by Hussy on Oct 20, 2012 18:02:51 GMT -5
this is sad ... really sad :(
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Post by p0isonparadise. on Oct 20, 2012 18:30:56 GMT -5
I cannot think of a comeback right now where the artist basically heaved out a song and then watched what happened instead of actively pushing it. Britney didn't perform the song until 2 months after its release and she hadn't had a top 10 hit on the CHR chart since 'Everytime' 4 years before. Britney isn't a good example. People actually liked her and were looking forward to her comeback. No one is checking for Christina, except for her few dozen fans.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 19:03:36 GMT -5
Britney didn't perform the song until 2 months after its release and she hadn't had a top 10 hit on the CHR chart since 'Everytime' 4 years before. Britney isn't a good example. People actually liked her and were looking forward to her comeback. No one is checking for Christina, except for her few dozen fans. For the purpose of answering the question it was a perfect example; but otherwise, I agree. Even during the worst phase of her career when she was tabloid fodder, "Gimme More" managed to debut at #3 on the Hot 100 due to a big first week sales week.
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Post by Envoirment on Oct 20, 2012 19:45:42 GMT -5
Currently #102 in total airplay in the UK with 8.68m AI. Also at #32 on the TV airplay chart. With 2 weeks left until release, it looks like it is going well atm. :)
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Post by Not Careful Enough on Oct 20, 2012 19:51:04 GMT -5
Well... At least it has the possibility of being a hit in the U.K. if things continue the same way here.
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Post by MusicJunkie on Oct 20, 2012 20:01:41 GMT -5
I cannot think of a comeback right now where the artist basically heaved out a song and then watched what happened instead of actively pushing it. Britney didn't perform the song until 2 months after its release and she hadn't had a top 10 hit on the CHR chart since 'Everytime' 4 years before. J.LO is a better example. On The Floor was released in February of last year and it became a hit on its own through digital sales and radio followed. She didn't perform until May when it was already top 5.
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Post by chocolatethunder on Oct 20, 2012 20:13:41 GMT -5
Most people would have been helped by judging on a show like The Voice , but for her it might have hurt in the long run, she might have been better off not showcasing her personality to a wider audience.
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Post by Mack on Oct 20, 2012 20:24:13 GMT -5
^ I remember thinking she was coming off pretty well during the first season, but then it's like she just stopped caring and decided to let her inner bitch fly free.
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Post by leoapp on Oct 20, 2012 20:38:40 GMT -5
Very disappointed with Xtina & RCA, great potential lead single for her comeback, great anticipation, great hype and... no promo at all, just a music video, a big mess. Very very bad strat for her new era NMT had so many promo, she was everywhere but sadly the public hated her. Now, when the public is starting to forgive her, they do no promo
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Post by NeRD on Oct 20, 2012 21:06:28 GMT -5
Idk, maybe that's the reason why RCA isn't willing to invest as much in her anymore. I mean, don't they have Britney, Alicia, and other huge artists on the roster now? Not to mention original artists like P!nk, Ke$ha, and even Kelly Clarkson who have had consistent success over the past few years. It kinda makes sense from a business standpoint. Xtina hasn't really proven herself as a money-maker since B2B.
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Post by ALΞX on Oct 20, 2012 22:57:33 GMT -5
If Christina wanted to promote something, she could easily do it WITHOUT her labels money, or permission.
That's not an excuse IMO. She could book anything she wanted.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 21, 2012 0:02:38 GMT -5
Beating someone to the punch-TLDR 1 or 2 examples (one of which seems slightly off to me-The Britney Situation is very unique in my opinion) doesn't make me change my mind ultimately that to make a great comeback you usually have to leave your living room or hustle a bit. I am not even just talking performances either-anything really. I have seen nothing about the song anywhere. It is green right now on Itunes and moving into the mid-30s up a few spots (for some reason)-how nice if she had a major debut performance on the Voice followed up by a price slash on Itunes and an Ad on Itunes right? Keep the forward momentum going since its moving up? That is reasonable to expect for a pop star and something I have seen with literally every other pop star out there at some point-some promo of some sort and then some enticement for buyers on Itunes. It isn't like that is wild and crazy talk to expect for a standard pop star release and especially one trying to make a comeback. I firmly believe the only reason people like Kelly and Pink are still around is because of their work ethic, dedication, and hustle-it is a compliment from me. I see them all as somewhat similar in that they are all insanely talented, all struggled with one album, and probably could have easily faded into the pop star graveyard at a certain point if we are being honest. The difference is Kelly and Pink hustled their asses off and I have literally never doubted how much they wanted to be doing what they are doing even when they were not label priorities or the most successful that they could be. Christina just seems content not to do that and that is kind of disappointing to me. Maybe I am wrong about that and any type of promo or push is unnecessary or outdated, but I wish I was seeing her fighting for her career a bit more. Maybe there is something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about though. If she wants to release a cd and not do anything to promote it I guess that is her prerogative. At least I will probably get a few gems from it. I am still holding her to giving me a new Fighter. WOW this came out long. Sorry for everyone who actually read it all. I am writing a paper right now and tend to get wordy
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Post by neally on Oct 21, 2012 0:16:18 GMT -5
^^ Very interesting discussion. Given the backhanded compliments to Max Martin this era, might Christina be refusing to promote this song if she were "forced" into recording and releasing it by RCA (especially as a comeback lead single) ? Personally, I have a hard time buying into this self-sabotage theory and feel that her talk about the song itself and her excitement about the video discredits this theory as well. Thoughts ?
ETA: Regardless, I do believe that her confidence in performing uptempos may have diminished, as I have stated in here before, which could also have something to do with the lack of a performance to date.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 21, 2012 0:23:20 GMT -5
I really don't think she is knowingly self-sabotaging necessarily. I honestly feel like it is a combination of thinking her stuff would do well no matter what so she doesn't need to hustle and perhaps a bit of what you said-I still don't think she has her weight/image issues under control and that shows onstage. Her performances really have not been good lately and I am someone who typically loved her performances up until recently. She seems to be overcompensating with both vocals and outfits. I still firmly believe she taped a performance of Your Body that was never aired for some reason on The Voice and she seems to be gaining even more weight :/ It is just strange. I never thought Christina would be having some of the issues she is having lol. Like, personality yes, but I remember when she looked perfect for like, years in a row-great fashion, always looked put together, went through a time of not being too revealing, looked like she had it together. Then it was like overnight she fell apart.
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Post by Nicolexo on Oct 21, 2012 0:28:59 GMT -5
I just think she's content with her life and isn't AS into her music anymore. It's typical for artists as they get older and start families to be less and less into promoting their music. I think that's the case with Christina. I wouldn't say she's not proud of the album but I feel like at the moment she just feels whatever about it. She again surely is content in her life and I'm sure has enough money to not be worrying how much Lotus will sell. I think unless SHE gets a strong urge to have a big hit record again, we won't be seeing any major promotion.
However she does have some promo lined up before the album out at least, so we can't say she's not doing anything. Maybe the label is focused more of trying to shift actual album units this time as well.
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Post by ALΞX on Oct 21, 2012 0:31:30 GMT -5
She seems to love this song, and video, so I don't see why she would refuse to do anything with it, no matter the situation..
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 21, 2012 0:33:26 GMT -5
Yeah I guess worst case scenario for her is retiring with her millions upon millions upon millions upon millions upon millions lol. I am curious about the promo push the cd will get. Maybe if it sells more than they expect or decent numbers somehow they will put more effort into a second single. The listening party said that 2-3 sounded like they could have been first singles over Your Body.
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Post by ALΞX on Oct 21, 2012 1:01:23 GMT -5
I've just expected to love this album regardless of sales, like Nelly's album.
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Post by mamaloveme on Oct 21, 2012 5:21:27 GMT -5
i expect it do well in europe/rest of the world
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 21, 2012 5:23:00 GMT -5
She gained spins at least. 19 19 CHRISTINA AGUILERA Your Body 3824 3803 21 21.568 +22 Spins -3 Bullet -0.379 Audience
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