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Post by music on Aug 6, 2006 12:38:50 GMT -5
Madonna has achieved much more on a commercial level, especially Internationally, nobody can deny that... And that doesn't even get to the issue of music quality and impact, in which Madonna wipes the floor with La Twain... I don't care if Shania has 2 legitimate Diamond albums, so does Madonna... COO was as big as it was because her label milked it for all it was worth and released 8 singles from it over the course of 2 years. The # of records Madonna holds, anywhere in the world, is mindboggling and Shania can't even begin to match up. I can't believe anyone is even bothering to debate this! Most of Madonna's music is synthesized garbage. Shania's songs are recorded with a real arrangement, they have heart and personality and behind them, and Shania is a much better vocalist then Madonna. Look at the fact that Shania has NO respect in the Country music community or compare her reviews to Madonna's and she was you get... Come back when Shania even ATTEMPTS something like "Mer Girl" or "Shanti/Ashtangi" or "Cyberraga" or "Frozen" or any other avant garde Madonna track... Shania has respect from the people in the country industry that matter, such as Dolly Parton, Reba McEntire, Loretta Lynn, Vince Gill etc. Why would Shania want to attempt any of Madonna's songs? that would be a step down. You are joking right? Shania has a crap voice and can not even begin to mach her studio vocals live. She is rangeless and couldn't do the evita score if her life depended on it. And if you want to insult an entire genre of music by labeling it "synthesized garbage" then go right ahead, it just shows how narrow minded and uneducated on the matter you are. Shania's music means absolutely nothing, she is manufactured and her work can not stack up to Madonna's. The "personality and depth" behind songs like "Mer Girl" and "Oh Father" are things that Shania has never and will never be able to approach as an "artist". |
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Aug 6, 2006 13:04:10 GMT -5
lol @ shania vs. madonna.
i agree that shania's voice (which used to be decent) is now nothing but a thin scratchiness. but i think she has better songs than madonna (minus a few old-school jams).
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Post by Love4Shania on Aug 6, 2006 14:09:20 GMT -5
You are joking right? Shania has a crap voice and can not even begin to mach her studio vocals live. She is rangeless and couldn't do the evita score if her life depended on it. And if you want to insult an entire genre of music by labeling it "synthesized garbage" then go right ahead, it just shows how narrow minded and uneducated on the matter you are. Shania's music means absolutely nothing, she is manufactured and her work can not stack up to Madonna's. The "personality and depth" behind songs like "Mer Girl" and "Oh Father" are things that Shania has never and will never be able to approach as an "artist". I have seen Shania live, she is better then her studio recordings and singing is the main thing she focuses on during her concerts. Madonna however has to resort to her dancing and stage act to hide her vocal shortcomings, it's obvious she can't sing..her voice doesn't even sound natural. Why rabid Madonna fans are willing to pay up to $300 for her inane, egotistical ticket prices is beyond me....Shania puts on a much better concert for less then 1/4 of the cost. I wasn't labelling an entire genre, although if you want to debate musical integrity then Shania has Madonna beat seeing how her music actually requires talent to reproduce. Not to mention in 50 years time people will still be getting married to Shania's beautiful music, and you'll probably only hear Madonna's in sleazy strip bars. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2006 16:27:54 GMT -5
lol @ shania vs. madonna. lol @ this being the primary thread topic on a thread title that says Billboard 200 8/12/06 The poeple doing the "rah-rah" Madonna stuff in this thread are naturally going to say anyone not named Madonna sings second rate music & seem shocked at a suggestion that other female artists have talent too. Madonna has accomplished a lot of good things but, so have other artists. Edit to add: I am not saying, suggesting or implying that Madonna is better or worse than anybody. I am just suggesting to the overzealous Madonna fans that there is other good quality music out there besides Madonna. |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 6, 2006 16:39:50 GMT -5
lol @ shania vs. madonna. lol @ this being the primary thread topic on a thread title that says Billboard 200 8/12/06 The poeple doing the "rah-rah" Madonna stuff in this thread are naturally going to say anyone not named Madonna sings second rate music & seem shocked at a suggestion that other female artists have talent too. Madonna has accomplished a lot of good things but, so have other artists. Edit to add: I am not saying, suggesting or implying that Madonna is better or worse than anybody. I am just suggesting to the overzealous Madonna fans that there is other good quality music out there besides Madonna. You forgot the rah rah Shania fans who basically started this little discussion and make her out to be the goddess of all that is music. Easy mistake :) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2006 18:43:26 GMT -5
Getting back on topic.
Billboard Market watch for 8/12/2006
YTD comparison to 2005
Albums down 5.3%
Digital Tracks up 75.1%
Store Singles down 25.5%
Total units (singles + albums) up 23.5%
Albums w/TEA down 0.9%
(TEA (track equivalent albums) is notation for 1 album = 10 digital tracks)
Sales by album format:
CD down 8.0%
Digital Albums up 122.1%
Cassette down 54.1%
Other foramts down 22.9%
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Post by doodlebug on Aug 6, 2006 21:21:41 GMT -5
Dumb question--I lost the link I had to where you could see the listings of all CDs and singles certified. I searched RIAA on google but only found tons and tons of articles about them and lawsuits and BS--not a link to a site that will show what CDs were issued certificates. Anyone have the link?? Thanks
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Post by music on Aug 6, 2006 21:27:45 GMT -5
You are joking right? Shania has a crap voice and can not even begin to mach her studio vocals live. She is rangeless and couldn't do the evita score if her life depended on it. And if you want to insult an entire genre of music by labeling it "synthesized garbage" then go right ahead, it just shows how narrow minded and uneducated on the matter you are. Shania's music means absolutely nothing, she is manufactured and her work can not stack up to Madonna's. The "personality and depth" behind songs like "Mer Girl" and "Oh Father" are things that Shania has never and will never be able to approach as an "artist". I have seen Shania live, she is better then her studio recordings and singing is the main thing she focuses on during her concerts. Madonna however has to resort to her dancing and stage act to hide her vocal shortcomings, it's obvious she can't sing..her voice doesn't even sound natural. Why rabid Madonna fans are willing to pay up to $300 for her inane, egotistical ticket prices is beyond me....Shania puts on a much better concert for less then 1/4 of the cost. I wasn't labelling an entire genre, although if you want to debate musical integrity then Shania has Madonna beat seeing how her music actually requires talent to reproduce. Not to mention in 50 years time people will still be getting married to Shania's beautiful music, and you'll probably only hear Madonna's in sleazy strip bars. You obviously have not heard any live clips from, or seen Madonna in concert this time around. She sounds wonderful and only parts of one song is lip-synched out of over 20.  Saying that Shania's music requires talent but Madonna's doesn't is completely assanine and goes against any critical review you will ever find. Your last sentence isn't even worthresponding to. |
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Post by Minimalism on Aug 6, 2006 22:44:49 GMT -5
Tsk, tsk, why do all the divas' hardcore fans have to argue in the most unappropriate places? Start your own thread please, or perhaps you can pm each other. I'm tired of all this my-diva-is-the-god-and-can't-simply-co-exist-peacefully-with-other-divas battle.  |
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Post by Love4Shania on Aug 7, 2006 11:26:35 GMT -5
I have seen Shania live, she is better then her studio recordings and singing is the main thing she focuses on during her concerts. Madonna however has to resort to her dancing and stage act to hide her vocal shortcomings, it's obvious she can't sing..her voice doesn't even sound natural. Why rabid Madonna fans are willing to pay up to $300 for her inane, egotistical ticket prices is beyond me....Shania puts on a much better concert for less then 1/4 of the cost. I wasn't labelling an entire genre, although if you want to debate musical integrity then Shania has Madonna beat seeing how her music actually requires talent to reproduce. Not to mention in 50 years time people will still be getting married to Shania's beautiful music, and you'll probably only hear Madonna's in sleazy strip bars. You obviously have not heard any live clips from, or seen Madonna in concert this time around. She sounds wonderful and only parts of one song is lip-synched out of over 20. Saying that Shania's music requires talent but Madonna's doesn't is completely assanine and goes against any critical review you will ever find. Your last sentence isn't even worthresponding to. What critical reviews? and why do you put so much faith in critics? Whenever they bash Madonna you will just convert your beliefs on whether or not a critics opinion matters. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2006 12:02:55 GMT -5
lol @ this being the primary thread topic on a thread title that says Billboard 200 8/12/06 The poeple doing the "rah-rah" Madonna stuff in this thread are naturally going to say anyone not named Madonna sings second rate music & seem shocked at a suggestion that other female artists have talent too. Madonna has accomplished a lot of good things but, so have other artists. Edit to add: I am not saying, suggesting or implying that Madonna is better or worse than anybody. I am just suggesting to the overzealous Madonna fans that there is other good quality music out there besides Madonna. You forgot the rah rah Shania fans who basically started this little discussion and make her out to be the goddess of all that is music. Easy mistake :) lol apparently that is true. Despite the efforts to bury this topic, which is completely unrelated to the original topic -- it keeps coming back. Shania vs. Madonna should be a separate thread. Neither fan group will win in the end. Both groups believe that their leader is the goddess of all that is everything. No arguments presented here will sway that. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 7, 2006 12:14:15 GMT -5
Dumb question--I lost the link I had to where you could see the listings of all CDs and singles certified. I searched RIAA on google but only found tons and tons of articles about them and lawsuits and BS--not a link to a site that will show what CDs were issued certificates. Anyone have the link?? Thanks |
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Post by Dido on Aug 7, 2006 13:03:53 GMT -5
Getting back on topic. Billboard Market watch for 8/12/2006 YTD comparison to 2005 Albums down 5.3% Digital Tracks up 75.1% Store Singles down 25.5% Total units (singles + albums) up 23.5% Albums w/TEA down 0.9% (TEA (track equivalent albums) is notation for 1 album = 10 digital tracks) Sales by album format: CD down 8.0% Digital Albums up 122.1% Cassette down 54.1% Other foramts down 22.9% Thanks for the info. It's highly appreciated. :) |
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Post by dsm112 on Aug 8, 2006 15:02:25 GMT -5
They still make cassettes?
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Post by doodlebug on Aug 8, 2006 21:33:20 GMT -5
Dumb question--I lost the link I had to where you could see the listings of all CDs and singles certified. I searched RIAA on google but only found tons and tons of articles about them and lawsuits and BS--not a link to a site that will show what CDs were issued certificates. Anyone have the link?? Thanks Thank you. Yes, you can still find them but not that many. |
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Post by rdh: THE YONKAZ! on Aug 9, 2006 7:33:39 GMT -5
Can someone post the new chart!
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Post by jason88 on Aug 9, 2006 7:38:21 GMT -5
calm it, its not like they just get the chart and then post it 4 hours later, when it comes they post asap, dont get ur granny panties in a bundle.
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