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Post by cesarams on Sept 30, 2012 10:22:41 GMT -5
The ratio digital x airplay is 0.6 x 1.0.
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Post by josh on Sept 30, 2012 10:29:48 GMT -5
KANYE WEST – Clique f/Big Sean & JAY-Z: 32.076 (+ 1.033) Smash! Go Kanye. ALICIA KEYS – Girl On Fire: 18.003 (+ 0.305) Going for adds at Pop on Oct 8, hopefully better increases by then. It was actually the 9th, but got pushed back to 16th. Idk why. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 30, 2012 10:35:52 GMT -5
Ratio means nada to me. I want airplay and sales dividers.  |
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Post by cesarams on Sept 30, 2012 10:36:36 GMT -5
^What?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 30, 2012 10:54:33 GMT -5
^Ha I mean, the number Billboard divides airplay and sales numbers by; i.e. if a track had 100 million audience, it divided that number by 10,000; if a track sold 100,000, it divided that by 10. if the formula's been redone, those numbers would be different now.
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Post by josh on Sept 30, 2012 10:58:58 GMT -5
This? 2012 Formula
Assumed Formula
1 Hot 100 point for 1k digital sales.
1.5 Hot 100 points for 1M AI.
1 Hot 100 point for 50k passive streams.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 30, 2012 11:11:10 GMT -5
^I never looked at it that way; I just imply used the dividers that Billboard said it used.
Looking at that formula, though- on-demand points given more chart power than free streaming, yes?
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Post by josh on Sept 30, 2012 11:13:53 GMT -5
Yeah, they mentioned that on demand streaming counts for double what passive streaming does. That makes sense since it's something a person specifically wants to listen to vs. something randomly chosen for them.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 30, 2012 11:16:46 GMT -5
Oh, yes- I looked at the formula and was thinking something else. D'oh. :)
Free streaming isn't necessarily something randomly chosen, though. You still click on something and stream it in a lot of cases. (i.e. at Yahoo Music).
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Post by josh on Sept 30, 2012 11:22:16 GMT -5
I would think that is on demand, then. There are probably ads every couple songs for that, right? Versus paying monthly and no ads.
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 30, 2012 15:15:51 GMT -5
It's not free streaming that is counted as .5 of on-demand. There are free on-demand streaming sites. In fact, in the US, Spotify is on-demand and free. You just have ads. The streaming that is counted as .5 of on-demand are those like on Pandora or Last.fm radio. Streams that aren't controlled by the listener. Yahoo! Radio and AOL Radio are sites like those.
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Post by josh on Sept 30, 2012 15:24:38 GMT -5
so i was right
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Post by manuaway on Sept 30, 2012 19:36:26 GMT -5
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 1, 2012 5:15:36 GMT -5
I don't think Begin Again will sell a lot over 300k.
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Post by cesarams on Oct 1, 2012 8:38:56 GMT -5
MONDAY'S UPDATE:
TOP 20:
1. PINK – Blow Me (One Last Kiss): 149.958 (+ 0.967)
2. MAROON 5 – One More Night: 136.599 (+ 2.519)[/color]
3. TAYLOR SWIFT – We Are Never Ever Getting…: 127.654 (=)
4. JUSTIN BIEBER – As Long As You Love Me: 121.204 (+ 0.608)
5. ELLIE GOULDING – Lights: 113.843 (- 1.093)
6. NEON TREES – Everybody Talks: 111.427 (- 0.401)
7. FUN. – Some Nights: 109.207 (+ 1.214)
8. FLO RIDA – Whistle: 106.409 (- 1.517)
9. KATY PERRY – Wide Awake: 103.886 (- 0.854)
10. OWL CITY & CARLY RAE JEPSEN – Good Time: 99.985 (+ 0.106)
11. ALEX CLARE – Too Close: 87.607 (+ 0.863)
12. GOTYE – Somebody That I Used To Know: 84.434 (- 0.792)
13. CHRIS BROWN – Don't Wake Me Up: 83.269 (+ 0.130)
14. NICKI MINAJ – Pound The Alarm: 80.296 (- 0.955) ▲
15. DEMI LOVATO – Give Your Heart A Break: 79.132 (- 2.520) ▼
16. MAROON 5 – Payphone f/Wiz Khalifa: 72.416 (- 1.493)
17. DAVID GUETTA – Titanium f/Sia: 68.290 (+ 0.008)
18. CARLY RAE JEPSEN – Call Me Maybe: 66.760 (- 1.283)
19. RIHANNA – Where Have You Been: 65.869 (- 1.764)
20. MIGUEL – Adorn: 65.572 (+ 0.792)
OTHERS:
NE-YO – Let Me Love You: 63.113 (+ 0.764)
JASON ALDEAN – Take A Little Ride: 62.827 (+ 0.146)
DUSTIN LYNCH – Cowboys And Angels: 57.882 (- 0.099)
JANA KRAMER – Why Ya Wanna: 56.645 (+ 0.195)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD – Blown Away: 56.006 (+ 0.138)
TRAIN – 50 Ways To Say Goodbye: 47.435 (+ 0.385)
PSY – Gangnam Style: 45.863 (+ 2.232)[/color]
DAVID GUETTA - I Can Only Imagine f/C. Brown: 43.509 (- 0.070)
KE$HA – Die Young: 39.025 (+ 6.086)[/color]
ENRIQUE IGLESIAS – Finally Found You f/S. Adams: 38.858 (+ 0.111)
RIHANNA – Diamonds: 37.418 (+ 3.778)[/color]
PHILLIP PHILLIPS – Home: 36.976 (+ 0.788)
KANYE WEST – Clique f/Big Sean & JAY-Z: 33.020 (+ 0.944)
BRANDY – Put It Down f/Chris Brown: 30.014
USHER – Numb: 26.580 (+ 0.728)
ONEREPUBLIC – Feel Again: 26.399 (+ 0.402)
BEYONCE – Dance For You: 25.103 (+ 0.019)
ONE DIRECTION – Live While We're Young: 23.797 (+ 2.990)[/color]
CHRISTINA AGUILERA – Your Body: 23.449 (+ 0.433)
ALICIA KEYS – Girl On Fire: 18.047 (+ 0.044)
MUMFORD & SONS – I Will Wait: 15.270 (+ 0.284)
MUSE – Madness: 12.741 (+ 0.127)
THE WANTED – I Found You: 1.578
KILLERS – Miss Atomic Bomb: 0.167
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Post by Agent Yoncé on Oct 1, 2012 8:50:48 GMT -5
Ke$ha is gonna debut pretty high come Thursday. Though I'm not here for the song, it's nice to see radio has missed her presence :)
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Post by nivekwriter1 on Oct 1, 2012 9:10:42 GMT -5
Other airplay updates (10/1/2012)
FRENCH MONATANA - Pop That f/Rick Ross: 48.594 (+ 0.406)
LEE BRICE - Hard To Love: 44.523 (+ 1.031)
FLO RIDA - I Cry: 16.639 (+ 0.831)
RITA ORA - R.I.P. f/Tinie Tempah: 12.533 (+ 0.637)
LINKIN PARK - Lost In The Echo: 8.093 (+ 0.282)
TAYLOR SWIFT - Begin Again: 4.223 (+ 0.622)
ELLIE GOULDING - Anything Could Happen: 3.739 (- 0.479)
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Post by nivekwriter1 on Oct 1, 2012 9:12:44 GMT -5
One Direction now #1 on iTunes.
It will probably be very high on the 10/20/12 chart.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 1, 2012 9:50:19 GMT -5
Yeah I see a fast rise fast fall for it.
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Post by NeRD on Oct 1, 2012 10:00:49 GMT -5
I think a Top 10 debut for Ke$ha is pretty much a given at this point. I see Rihanna starting out in the 15-20 range.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 1, 2012 10:29:28 GMT -5
Keep in mind that the airplay for "Die Young" will see a negative with Wednesday's update, as the track had a day of airplay in the last chart's tracking period. So, if it gains 5m or so, the negative would be more than 8 million.
Nonetheless, a great debut will occur. Did it go to on-demand sites right away?
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Post by NeRD on Oct 1, 2012 10:38:32 GMT -5
Keep in mind that the airplay for "Die Young" will see a negative with Wednesday's update, as the track had a day of airplay in the last chart's tracking period. So, if it gains 5m or so, the negative would be more than 8 million. Nonetheless, a great debut will occur. Did it go to on-demand sites right away? I believe it did last Wednesday (the day after) which is also the beginning of the tracking week for streaming as well correct? |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 1, 2012 10:40:20 GMT -5
I believe regular streaming tracking period was Monday-Sunday; not sure if the on-demand tracking period is the same.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 1, 2012 11:20:03 GMT -5
I don't know why the record company has different tracking periods for everything. I wish billboard would fix this issue so apples can be compared to apples...
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Post by kirby2725 on Oct 1, 2012 11:23:12 GMT -5
Come on, Xtina :'(
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Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 1, 2012 11:30:29 GMT -5
As noted before, the audience-based airplay charts are Wed.-Tues. so Billboard can incorporate the most up-to-the-minute info for airplay; with sales, it takes longer to gather the information. Probably why sales at concert venues also run on a different cycle than the regular Monday-Sunday period.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 1, 2012 11:36:32 GMT -5
As noted before, the audience-based airplay charts are Wed.-Tues. so Billboard can incorporate the most up-to-the-minute info for airplay; with sales, it takes longer to gather the information. Probably why sales at concert venues also run on a different cycle than the regular Monday-Sunday period. So why can't sales be tracked from wed-tuesday then? I'm just saying...it shouldn't be hard. |
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Post by popstop on Oct 1, 2012 12:00:10 GMT -5
^ From what Holidayguy is saying, the sales information isn't turned over quick enough for that schedule. So Billboard's publication would be delayed.
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Post by d.t.m on Oct 1, 2012 12:58:17 GMT -5
I keep forgetting that Rihanna still has another top 20 airplay hit (WHYB).
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Post by josh on Oct 1, 2012 12:58:55 GMT -5
Probably its last day.
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