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Post by strikeleo on Nov 1, 2012 17:29:03 GMT -5
I'll never understand this celebrating and maintaining a record - It's not that important, and sometimes I feel as if we care about such frivolous things, I, myself, am too blame for this as well.
Great numbers and nice to see a million debut, that's all.
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Post by slw84 on Nov 1, 2012 17:40:58 GMT -5
I'll never understand this celebrating and maintaining a record - It's not that important, and sometimes I feel as if we care about such frivolous things, I, myself, am too blame for this as well. Great numbers and nice to see a million debut, that's all. Fair enough but that could be said for the board celebrating numerous achievements yet boards monitoring music stats exist. |
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Post by strikeleo on Nov 1, 2012 17:47:01 GMT -5
I'll never understand this celebrating and maintaining a record - It's not that important, and sometimes I feel as if we care about such frivolous things, I, myself, am too blame for this as well. Great numbers and nice to see a million debut, that's all. Fair enough but that could be said for the board celebrating numerous achievements yet boards monitoring music stats exist. Yes, I agree. Haha, that was just me having an epiphany. Sorry, lol. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 1, 2012 18:09:07 GMT -5
Not taking away from Taylor by any means but this article is acting like pricing is the only thing that counts as a gimmick or 'trick,' and that is not true. The marketing for this album was insane. That's nothing to be ashamed of so the hyperbole isn't necessary (not directed at you chartfreak, but at the writer of this article). And really they're just doing it to pick at Gaga again. I know that is a 'never live it down' moment for her but the joke's rather old now. I think the impressive thing with both Taylor and GaGa that helped their sales was that they were both able to incorporate non-traditional methods of selling their albums. Not just those two but others as well. CDs that can be sold in places that normally don't sell CDs is great marketing and planning but the fact of the matter is, it's gimmicky. They're giving themselves an edge that most don't have by allowing their music to be more easily accessible. BUT, they can do it because their music will sell. Joe Smallname or Bob Nobody can't sell their music from a cell phone outlet or pizza delivery place because nobody would buy it. Taylor, GaGa, whoever else can because the demand is there. That's an important thing to consider. You can call it a gimmick all you want but if the demand or interest wasn't there, these artists wouldn't be able to do it. Amazon wouldn't be able to sell Born This Way for 99 cents if they didn't think it had the potential to draw in new customers in the longterm. They can put a sale price of 99 cents on any album but if it's not going to draw people in, it's wasted potential and a loss of money that they aren't going to get back. We see time and time again that labels and marketing teams have to come up with new ways to promote their music but we also see that retailers have to do the same thing. They work off of each other to create ways to build hype and use hype to their advantage. Why is that sometimes considered such a bad thing? To be "gimmicky". It's smart marketing. It might look cheap from the point of view of the Billboard chart but at the end of the day, the music is reaching more people and likely bringing in more $. I say, more power to them! Creativity doesn't end when the "stop record" button is pushed. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 6:36:49 GMT -5
I wonder how much Red sold worldwide. Speak Now only sold an extra 100k on its opening week, so it'll be interesting to see how much her international fanbase has expanded. We already know that Red sold just over 60k in the UK, just under 30k in Australia, and just over 30k in Japan, so that's 120k from those three markets. I really have no idea how much it will sell elsewhere though. So, 251k outside the states. Pretty average, but more than twice as much what Speak Now sold, so it's good for her. For comparison, Talk that Talk sold 306k, and Oops I Did It Again! sold 1.1 million. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 14:50:49 GMT -5
Anyone have the actual sales data with totals? Im looking for P!nks The Truth About Love in particular.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 14:59:04 GMT -5
no but even if we did, we couldn't post them.
I belive rounded figures are accepted though (although no one has that either)
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Post by Lozzy on Nov 2, 2012 15:17:18 GMT -5
Anyone have the actual sales data with totals? Im looking for P!nks The Truth About Love in particular. I believe it's at 519,000, give or take a few thousand due to rounding. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 15:51:48 GMT -5
Oh, I wasnt aware of that. Thanks for the update...and for the sales estimate. ty
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Post by applechic on Nov 4, 2012 9:56:28 GMT -5
Amazing numbers...she's in a league of her own now.
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Post by chartfreak on Nov 4, 2012 10:07:33 GMT -5
^^No...that was Madonna. :)~
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