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Post by nick64 on Feb 6, 2013 17:53:25 GMT -5
Also heartbreak only voted for the person lynched on day 1, that look like a mafia player to me. And that could simply be a great Mafia tactic. If a person looks like they are going to be lynched, and you're not on anyone's radar yet, letting them be lynched without your involvement would be a great strategy.
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Post by hitseeker. on Feb 6, 2013 19:01:33 GMT -5
I think I've reached my decision. Let me organize my thoughts into a more detailed post.
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2013 19:09:57 GMT -5
The suspense is killing me. ;_;
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Post by nick64 on Feb 6, 2013 19:12:08 GMT -5
Killing you? I'm on the chopping box right now. It's killing me. Possibly literally
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2013 19:13:55 GMT -5
Good point. Sorry. :( Of course you know nothing is personal, it's all game. :)
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Post by nick64 on Feb 6, 2013 19:15:37 GMT -5
I know It's been long and stressful though
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2013 19:16:56 GMT -5
Agreed. ;_;
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2013 19:17:20 GMT -5
I need to read my psychology but I've been anxious all day about the deadline. ;_;
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Post by hitseeker. on Feb 6, 2013 19:19:46 GMT -5
Ok so I've thought a lot about this and considered both sides to this matter. Let me just say right away that, despite this being only a fun game, it's an awful position to be in, having to decide between two players and possibly making a bad decision: if I keep my vote on one we may have a No Lynch and that gives Mafia a free nightkill; if I vote for the other, I have no guarantee I'm making a right decision Well, I can't put this off any longer; the deadline is almost upon us and I think I've reached my decision. Both cases against Nick and Daniel are not strong; again, that is the case with all players at this stage of the game, which makes it even more difficult for me to cast my vote, knowing that we don't have enough to go by. Still, I have to take a risk as there is not pretty much any other right now. It's true that one can see Daniel as suspicious: he hasn't posted much, when he does he isn't able to provide a much detailed explanation of his suspicions, like AZ has already said, saying something about Nick like "I've always had suspicions about him" or something along those lines. The inactivity could work as a front here: he doesn't post much, when he does he's not very clear and that way he would slip through the cracks, almost unnoticed, doing his job as a Mafia or Indendepent. But then I thought to myself: what if his inability to explain himself or justify his choices is just that, an inability? An inability because this game hasn't been the most straightforward one when it comes to indisputable evidence? I can speak to myself that I've experienced that in this game, and in previous ones as well. Even if I post long posts, I feel like most of them are rambling, not really detailed like AZ's, for example. Even JCFM3 deemed my posts as not "overtly informative" so what if Daniel is a Town with the same problem as me? Are these enough grounds on which to cast my vote? Also, his suspicions list that put Nick at #1 because he wasn't too suspicious to me at the time, right now I think: how is that too supicious? Yes, Daniel overall can be suspicious by not knowing too much about him on this game but... Then we have Nick, with a case as weak as Daniel's, I'd say but with a few differences. I'm not even going to speak about the Lynch-1 x3 thing because, as has been stated by me and others previously, it's not suspicious enough to accuse anyone or base a vote on. Having said that, I feel like there certain aspects that, like there are for Daniel, make Nick suspicious. One of them is his vote for Daniel after I voted for him. Now Nick I agree with you in that a good Mafia tactic would be starting the lynchwagon, still I also feel like a good Mafia tactic to vote for a player after another had cast a vote. I mean, it's great: We don't have strong suspicions against anyone, I vote for Daniel, he doesn't present a very good defense and that is so convenient for you because it gives you enough leeway to vote for him, and after that AZ voted for Daniel, putting him at Lynch -1. Now AZ's "defense" of you could be just that, that he doesn't agree with the theories that have been thrown against you. True, I concede. But in light of certain elements that make you suspicious, one could consider whether that "defense" is not something else. Another thing is the Josh's reporter claim. That can be false, yes, but if we go by that claim and assume Xiivi kinda followed the guidelines from the Wiki for the role then you were not home on Night 1. Being Mafia and performing a nightkill, or just an independent, performing anything would yield the result "not home", which is what happened. I also had into consideration. So having said this I've reached my decision, which was not an easy one, mind you, to change my vote and go for Nick. I also thought about what Josh said: No Lynch is bad for the Town right now and the Town is in bad enough a state that we can't afford that. We have a good chance of lynching a bad guy and we have to take a risk. Giving Mafia a free nightkill is just too risky at this point for the Town. So, with this said: Unvote: HeartbreakVote: NickNick I'm very sorry if I made a bad decision, it's my first one and you know it Still I took everything Josh said into consideration, plus what I already thought and came to this conclusion. It was extremely hard to do this and I've not been coaxed in any way to vote, I considered what josh said and thought he made sense on certain points. P.S.: Josh if you've tricked me or coaxed me into voting for a Townie, I'll hate you forever
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Post by nick64 on Feb 6, 2013 19:20:22 GMT -5
Bad decision :'(
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2013 19:21:05 GMT -5
Long post i'lll read in a minute BUT P.S.: Josh if you've tricked me or coaxed me into voting for a Townie, I'll hate you forever LMAO love you too
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 6, 2013 19:23:20 GMT -5
*sigh* I feel like you've all fallen for one hell of a frame-up job but okay...
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2013 19:27:24 GMT -5
Where's xiivi? I wanna know if we were idiots or not (hopefully not)
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Post by nick64 on Feb 6, 2013 19:27:53 GMT -5
^the latter
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Post by nick64 on Feb 6, 2013 19:28:10 GMT -5
I mean former
#fail64
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Post by hitseeker. on Feb 6, 2013 19:28:22 GMT -5
Long post i'lll read in a minute BUT P.S.: Josh if you've tricked me or coaxed me into voting for a Townie, I'll hate you forever LMAO love you too Is that a confession of some sort?
Nick, if it is indeed a bad decision, I'm really sorry :'(
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2013 19:29:00 GMT -5
lmao
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2013 19:29:57 GMT -5
Long post i'lll read in a minute BUT LMAO love you too Is that a confession of some sort? Lol no, it just made me giggle. Swear to Godga and Slayly Slay Slaysen I really do think he's mafia.
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 6, 2013 19:30:52 GMT -5
If he does turn out to be Mafia then he's really had me fooled, because seriously the case against him really WAS that weak.
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Post by hitseeker. on Feb 6, 2013 19:31:12 GMT -5
Is that a confession of some sort? Lol no, it just made me giggle. Swear to Godga and Slayly Slay Slaysen I really do think he's mafia. Wrong gods, you should be swearing to Rihsus, may she live and slay lives forever
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2013 19:33:56 GMT -5
Whatever floats your boat Joao. ;)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 19:40:15 GMT -5
"Ax Axew Ax Axew Ax Ax!"Translation: We got one of the baddies!Day 4 BeginsDeadline has been set for 02.06.13 11:59PM EST. It takes 4/6 votes to lynch! Day 4: Vote Count 11Nick: Josh, Heartbreak, JCMF3, HitseekerHeartbreak: Nick, Az Nick, Ivysaur, Rocket-Pokémon 1-S Janitor has been lynched! "Axew, Ax Ax ew ew ax..."Translation: Oh dear, it was already too late...JCMF3, Dragonite, Vanilla Wild-Pokémon has died from a curse! Heartbreak, Seel, Wild-Pokémon N1 Sealer has died from a curse! Hitseeker, Lucario, Wild-Pokémon N1 Psychologist has died from a curse! Az, Minun, Rocket-Pokémon Goon has been endgamed! Josh, Charizard, Deviant-Pokémon 1-S Bulletproof 1-S Serial Killer Marker has survived! Game OverDeviant-Pokémon wins! "Axew..."Translation: What happened...Vanilla Wild-Pokémon Axew has been spared!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 19:40:42 GMT -5
lol
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Post by nick64 on Feb 6, 2013 19:41:27 GMT -5
Fuck josh
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 19:41:29 GMT -5
Nick didn't even get to use his janitor power lmao
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 19:41:32 GMT -5
Congratz josh
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Post by josh on Feb 6, 2013 19:41:43 GMT -5
Ballin'! And I called mafia too.
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Post by nick64 on Feb 6, 2013 19:41:55 GMT -5
Nick didn't even get to use his janitor power lmao I used it on josh who of course was bulletproof
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 19:42:13 GMT -5
SampleRole: Axew, Vanilla Wild-PokémonAbilities: Your only powers are your voice and your vote, so make the best of them while you can! Win Condition: You win once all threats to the town are eliminated. CodexRole: Chandelure, Vanilla Wild-PokémonAbilities: Your only powers are your voice and your vote, so make the best of them while you can! Win Condition: You win once all threats to the town are eliminated. SthomasRole: Butterfree, Vanilla Wild-PokémonAbilities: Your only powers are your voice and your vote, so make the best of them while you can! Win Condition: You win once all threats to the town are eliminated. NightfireRole: Squirtle, Vanilla Wild-PokémonAbilities: Your only powers are your voice and your vote, so make the best of them while you can! Win Condition: You win once all threats to the town are eliminated. JCMF3Role: Dragonite, Vanilla Wild-PokémonAbilities: Your only powers are your voice and your vote, so make the best of them while you can! Win Condition: You win once all threats to the town are eliminated. Ry4nRole: Starmie, Wild-Pokémon N1 VoyeurAbilities: Only on Night 1 you may send me the command View: NAME. You will be told all Action(s) OR None that targeted that player. You may not target yourself. You may elect to use the command View: No Target. Win Condition: You win once all threats to the town are eliminated. TrombonesRole: Wynaut, Wild-Pokémon N2 MartyrAbilities: Only on Night 2 you may send me the command Save: NAME. If this player is targeted by a lethal action, the action will target you instead. In addition all other kills will fail until the next lynch occurs. You may not target yourself. You may elect to use the command Save: No Target. Win Condition: You win once all threats to the town are eliminated. HitseekerRole: Lucario, Wild-Pokémon N1 PsychologistAbilities: Only on Night 1 you may send me the command Diagnose: NAME. If this player has the ability to perform a lethal command; but has not done so by the end of Night 1 you will be given the result Positive. If the player does not have the ability to perform a lethal command or has performed a lethal command by the end of Night 1 you will be given the result Negative. You may not target yourself. You may elect to use the command Diagnose: No Target. Win Condition: You win once all threats to the town are eliminated. SlizzardRole: Snorunt, Wild-Pokémon N2 ReviverAbilities: Only on Night 2 you may send me the command Revive: NAME, where the targeted player has been confirmed by the game moderator to be dead. This player will be brought back to life at the start of Day 3. You will be voteless on Day 3 if you use this command. You may elect to use the command Revive: No Target. Win Condition: You win once all threats to the town are eliminated. HeartbreakRole: Seel, Wild-Pokémon N1 SealerAbilities: Only on Night 1 you may send me the command Seal: NAME. This player will be sealed until a complete phase loop has completed (The phase loop would be Day 2-Twilight 2-Night 2-Day 3; with Day 3 being when they are unsealed.) While a player is sealed the player will be unaffected by all other commands, be unable to vote, unable to post in the game thread or like posts, unable to communicate with other players, or will not count towards any win conditions until the player is unsealed. You may not target yourself. You may elect to use the command Seal: No Target. Win Condition: You win once all threats to the town are eliminated. AzRole: Minun, Rocket-Pokémon GoonPartner: Nick, Ivysaur, Rocket-Pokémon 1-S JanitorAbilities: You are able to communicate with your partner at all times in the following QuickTopic: www.quicktopic.com/50/H/yXEpy8aPTuyh4 . If one of you is killed, the Quicktopic will be locked and you will no longer be able to privately communicate. During each night phase either of you, unless dead, may PM me with the command Murder: NAME. That player will be targeted with a lethal action by the mafia in the night phase. Win Condition: You win once your faction has an undeniable majority rule over all others or nothing can prevent this. Safe-ClaimRole: Lunatone, Wild-Pokémon N1 CopAbilities: Only on Night 1 you may send me the command Cop: NAME. You will be told if the targeted player is Non-Wild-Pokémon OR Wild-Pokémon. You may not target yourself. You may elect to use the command Cop: No Target. Win Condition: You win once all threats to the town are eliminated. NickRole: Ivysaur, Rocket-Pokémon 1-S JanitorPartner: Az, Minun, Rocket-Pokémon GoonAbilities: You are able to communicate with your partner at all times in the following QuickTopic: www.quicktopic.com/50/H/yXEpy8aPTuyh4 . If one of you is killed, the Quicktopic will be locked and you will no longer be able to privately communicate. During each night phase either of you, unless dead, may PM me with the command Murder: NAME. That player will be targeted with a lethal action by the mafia in the night phase. Only once you may send me the command Sweep during the Night. Any player killed by the mafia by a lethal action during this night will not have their role or alignment revealed when they are announced as dead by the Game Moderator. Win Condition: You win once your faction has an undeniable majority rule over all others or nothing can prevent this. Safe-ClaimRole: Jigglypuff, Vanilla Wild-PokémonAbilities: Your only powers are your voice and your vote, so make the best of them while you can! Win Condition: You win once all threats to the town are eliminated. JoshRole: Charizard, Deviant-Pokémon 1-S Bulletproof 1-S Serial Killer MarkerAbilities: Only once if you are targeted by a lethal action you will not die. Only once you may send me the command Murder: NAME during either the Day or Night phase. This player will be targeted by a lethal action. Each night you may send me the command Mark: NAME. This player will be marked with a curse and will not be informed of the curse. Cursed players do not count against your majority rule. Win Condition: You win once your faction has an undeniable majority rule over all others or nothing can prevent this. Safe-ClaimRole: Mewtwo, Wild-Pokémon N2 ReporterAbilities: Only on Night 2 you may send me the command Report: NAME. You will be told the targeted player is Home OR Not Home. You may not target yourself. You may elect to use the command Report: No Target. Win Condition: You win once all threats to the town are eliminated. Mafia Room: www.quicktopic.com/50/H/yXEpy8aPTuyh4Green Room: www.quicktopic.com/50/H/TAM9q4R42aKfE
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 19:42:16 GMT -5
I love how you never lied about not being mafia, josh, but you still won.
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