Mariah Carey | New album out May 6 | "You're Mine (Eternal)"

[sundaymorningguy]

Yeah, she kind of ruined her momentum from #Beautiful and American Idol. This is going to have to be some universal Mariah. The lyrics, vocals, production and video will all have to be close to perfect for her to really go anywhere. I just am not expecting a pop record from her anymore. I think she could have some great urban success given the right song with some pop success thrown in there given the right momentum at Urban and Rhythmic stations. The problem is she would have to have the perfect storm in which everyone loves the song and actually downloads it so that radio and sales are through the roof. She just isn't a strong download appeal which will always be the bane to chart success for her here on out.

[Deleted]

They've been talking about this song for a while now. It sounds like a classic!

Like I said before: Mariah to be on Jimmy Fallon 11/12!

But Jimmy Fallon will only work in terms of promoting the song if she sings it LIVE. To just go on and talk about her shoulder or kids will do nothing. I remember when she was on Live with Kelly and Michael during after Almost Home was released and she talked about it for one second like she was embarrassed by/avoiding the song itself.

We can really help on 11/11 by sharing the song and updating our statues with pictures. Changing cover photo's and profile pics the night before will help too. If it's a HUGE success then I'm sure they will be discussing it on Fallon. Let's make it happen!

[Positive Tension]

Mariah and Fallon together are great. I loved her last appearance on the show.

I would think she'll talk more about "The Art of Letting Go" than "Almost Home," since she had a much greater part in writing "The Art of Letting Go."

[lambdoll]

I doubt a performance on Fallon would do anything, unless it goes viral like the AIWFCIY performance. I don't think that performance even did anything for AIWFCIY's sales, did it?

[Deleted]

Maybe they'll do an unplugged version of the song with the roots in the background playing instruments again...? Or is that so 2012?

I really really really hoped she worked with Walter Afanasieff again on this album! Together they wrote/created my favorite Mariah songs!

[HolidayGuy]

It's tough to say what kind of impact the Fallon performance did for AIWFCIY, as it also was priced at 69 cents at the time. I think it go to No. 11 (or 12) on iTunes last year?

[The Upper Hand]

Nov 7, 2013 8:36:58 GMT -5 ephelia said:

Maybe they'll do an unplugged version of the song with the roots in the background playing instruments again...? Or is that so 2012?

I really really really hoped she worked with Walter Afanasieff again on this album! Together they wrote/created my favorite Mariah songs!

I don't think Mariah is performing anything.

Capital Cities will be there too.

[Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815...]

I just want a solid tune, a solid video, a solid live performance. Mariah has nothing to proof regarding the charts, she is a legend..."she IS music"(Fantasia) This woman has broken records left and right, chart success at this point will be just icing on the cake.

[sundaymorningguy]

Well, it is so weird because sometimes she gives the impression she cares about chart success still and other times she doesn't.

[HolidayGuy]

^She still does, but I don't think it's as much the be-all-and-end-all that it was before she married Nick, had the kids, etc. Plus, as much as she may not like to dwell on her age, she's probably aware of how things are for older/veteran acts.

[sundaymorningguy]

I think her problem is consistency. She will put out something decent and then ruin it either with a terrible video or a horrible follow-up. I think the public at large would give her a chance if they knew she was dependable for decent material.

[Mean A$$]

Nov 7, 2013 12:12:10 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

^She still does, but I don't think it's as much the be-all-and-end-all that it was before she married Nick, had the kids, etc. Plus, as much as she may not like to dwell on her age, she's probably aware of how things are for older/veteran acts.

I'll never get over how the entertainment industry gets away with discriminating against those they consider "older". Radio does this blatantly and get away with it.

[Deleted]

The music industry "gets away with itl because pop music's audience is young. High schoolers and college students aren't listening to many acts over 40. They're not as relatable. It's not like all signs are pointing toward everyone loving and craving Mariah's recent material, but the industry is blacklisting her anyway.

[jenglisbe]

Nov 6, 2013 23:57:22 GMT -5 lambdoll said:

I doubt a performance on Fallon would do anything, unless it goes viral like the AIWFCIY performance. I don't think that performance even did anything for AIWFCIY's sales, did it?

In general live performances have never directly helped Mariah's songs, even when she was a great live performer. I think what would help more is if she did some skit or whatever with the song a la the "AIWFCIY" thing. She needs something to go viral to help the song, and live performances don't do that unless it's something like Miley twerking. I don't see an interview with Jimmy Fallon doing anythng for the song, but I am happy it's happening just because I like them together.

[jenglisbe]

Nov 7, 2013 15:53:41 GMT -5 @jazzysoul47 said:

The music industry "gets away with itl because pop music's audience is young. High schoolers and college students aren't listening to many acts over 40. They're not as relatable. It's not like all signs are pointing toward everyone loving and craving Mariah's recent material, but the industry is blacklisting her anyway.

The reality is also that Mariah's team isn't the youngest or savviest. It's reminding me a bit of all the crap going on in the country industry where a certain bloc of people are running things, and anyone who isn't part of that is shut out. Mariah is working with the same people she has been forever, and I bet most of them don't even know how the industry really works now. It's fine if Mariah feels comfortable with them, but I hope she doesn't actually think they know how to reach the demographic that downloads.

[manuaway]

Nov 7, 2013 8:38:28 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

It's tough to say what kind of impact the Fallon performance did for AIWFCIY, as it also was priced at 69 cents at the time. I think it go to No. 11 (or 12) on iTunes last year?

It peaked at #10 on iTunes last year.

[grandelf]

Nov 7, 2013 13:44:55 GMT -5 Mean A$$ said:

Nov 7, 2013 12:12:10 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

^She still does, but I don't think it's as much the be-all-and-end-all that it was before she married Nick, had the kids, etc. Plus, as much as she may not like to dwell on her age, she's probably aware of how things are for older/veteran acts.

I'll never get over how the entertainment industry gets away with discriminating against those they consider "older". Radio does this blatantly and get away with it.

You can get over it easily if you look at it the other way: why should anyone be successful, score hits, airplay and of course money with it until the end of time or as long as s/he keeps recording? If the "people" let that then there weren't new acts breaking new ground. But it doesn't work like that because people get bored of stuff, look for "the new". Of course that can be controlled by the media but they cater to the majority and not to those people who stick by their favs for decades. It's silly to act like this is some kinda conspiracy against 40+ year olds because in the end you're just upset that said artist is no longer making the same amount of money as before. Harsh but true...

[Gold Soundz]

The song is beautiful. It's not a hit. I haven't heard it. Don't ask. 

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Nov 7, 2013 16:37:38 GMT -5 Gold Soundz said:

The song is beautiful. It's not a hit. I haven't heard it. Don't ask. 

Honey fuck a hit look at the career. If true that its a beautiful song that's all I ever wanted. Can't wait to determine that on Monday!

[die Lotterie]

You're killing me with that post. #Tease

[Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815...]

I don't get the point of that post but whatever.

[JamaicaFunk²]

Nov 7, 2013 15:56:24 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Nov 7, 2013 15:53:41 GMT -5 @jazzysoul47 said:

The music industry "gets away with itl because pop music's audience is young. High schoolers and college students aren't listening to many acts over 40. They're not as relatable. It's not like all signs are pointing toward everyone loving and craving Mariah's recent material, but the industry is blacklisting her anyway.

The reality is also that Mariah's team isn't the youngest or savviest.

I doubt they even know what a "lyric video" is.

[Deleted]

I wouldn't expect any R&B ballad to be a hit in 2013.

[sundaymorningguy]

Well, I think at this point it should be about selling albums. She can get that if she can get and build a solid Urban and Rhythmic radio support. Though, the fact that she is releasing this and doesn't have an album release date announcement has me nervous that this will yet again be another false album start.

[Positive Tension]

I just want it to be a good song. Heck, given Mariah's track record, it SHOULD be a good song.

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The Halloween holiday helps Mariah Carey hit a new peak on the Social 50, as a photo of the diva’s children sparks her re-entry at No. 24.

The Social 50 ranks the most popular artists on YouTube, Vevo, Facebook, Twitter, SoundCloud, Wikipedia, Myspace and Instagram. The chart's methodology blends weekly additions of friends/fans/followers along with artist page views, song plays and reactions as measured by music analytics company Next Big Sound.

On Halloween Carey snapped a shot of her kids (Monroe and Moroccan) in their costumes (both dressed as Superman) that got 112,000 likes on Instagram. In turn, the number of new followers to Carey’s account on the platform increase by 184% over the previous frame.


On Facebook where it was cross-posted, it received over 350,000 likes (to date) which helped fuel the 243% rise in conversation about Carey on the platform, which gave way to 189,000 new fans (up 170%).

Carey peaked at No. 29 in two previous weeks -- on the charts dated Aug. 24 and April 20.

Above Carey at No. 17 is the highest debut of the week, as the late Lou Reed arrives on the tally. His arrival is fueled by conversation and buzz generated by his death on Oct. 27.

The majority of the activity around Reed occurred on Facebook, where there were 429,000 conversations about him (a 1,746% weekly increase). In addition, his official Facebook page scored 104,000 new followers (up 79%). Fans rushed to reminisce with his music as well, evidenced by the 832% lift the videos on his VEVO channel received in weekly plays.

Even further down, A$AP Rocky debuts on the Social 50 for the first time at No. 48 as the New York rapper releases the video for “Angels” from his early 2013 release Long Live A$AP. The release prompted a 123% increase in conversation on Facebook which led to the addition of 243,000 new followers on the platform (a 125% increase over the previous frame). His YouTube channel where the video was posted on Oct. 31 receives 878,000 views during the week, a 176% increase.

Up near the top of the chart, Eminem makes a predictable rise into the top five, as the chart reflected the week leading up to the release of his new album, "The Marshall Mathers LP 2." He moves 11-4 to reach his second-highest position to date since he hit No. 3 the week of Sept. 21 when “Berzerk” -- the first single from "Marshall Mathers LP 2" -- was released.

Meanwhile, Miley Cyrus (2-1) and Katy Perry (1-2) swap places as Justin Bieber rebounds 6-3. Demi Lovato dips 3-5 as One Direction swings (8-6), beginning an upward trend we can expect to carry into next week. The group released the video for their newest single “Story Of My Life,” late in the current charting period. That continued exposure could push them up the tally next week.

Ariana Grande holds steady at No. 7 while Nicki Minaj climbs (9-8). Britney Spears tumbles 4-9 as Justin Timberlake remains at No. 10 to close out the top 10.

Source.

[imperfect]

The Art Of Letting Go...of being obsessed with Mariah's chart success?

For me it's:

1) Hear the song first
2) Enjoy it
3) Assessment as to whether it's a song even capable of a strong chart run.
4) Are casual and non-fans enjoying it.
5) Worry how well the song will do.

If this new song/album is a masterpiece, Mariah promotes the hell out of it, and it still isn't a major hit, will fans heads explode?

[HolidayGuy]

^Depends on how unrealistic their expectations are, I suppose.

[Positive Tension]

I think the fans could handle it. There aren't many people who are expecting the song to be a big hit even if it is promoted well because Mariah just isn't a big digital seller. I'd rather she just outsell Memoirs and get some good press for the album.

[jenglisbe]

christina perri ‏@christinaperri 24h
o holy night by Mariah Carey is quite possibly my #1 favorite vocal performance in any song of all time.