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Post by someguy on Jul 15, 2021 12:46:47 GMT -5
How Far Can It Go? by Hailey Whitters with Trisha Yearwood is released as a follow-up single to Heartland in the small market and just debut at #68 on MusicRow Country Breakout Chart. For once, I wish mainstream country radio stopped wasting time on something like Aaron Lewis, and tried playing her. This song is SO good and SO 90s country. It’s easily one of my favorite things Hailey has done and wish she’d see some success on mainstream radio! This is so good! I'm thrilled to see it be released as a single. I wish mainstream radio would play it. It's easily one of my favourite singles of the year so far.
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Post by recordyear on Jul 15, 2021 17:56:00 GMT -5
CMT Giants: Charley Pride will premiere August 25th at 9 p.m. ET on CMT.
Appearances by Pride’s son Dion and his widow Rozene
Performances by George Strait, Garth Brooks, Lee Ann Womack, Darius Rucker, Wynonna, Alan Jackson, Jimmie Allen, Mickey Guyton, Luke Comb with Robert Randolph and Reyna Roberts, Gladys Knight
Commentaries from Reba, Ronnie Milsap, Neal McCoy and Nolan Ryan
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 16, 2021 17:58:55 GMT -5
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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on Jul 16, 2021 18:47:12 GMT -5
after the interview and all the backlash this was his response. If he is an ally and his interview was misinterpreted we should hear what he has to say. I don’t like Morgan Wallen at all so don’t say I’m defending anyone, I just know people are quick to judge based off of headlines and one liners and not the full transcript or story. I also agree with Andrea on the culture in country music needing to change, lots of work to do.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 17, 2021 8:25:13 GMT -5
I watched that whole thing and I think the issue is to think someone went away for 6 months and learned to not be racist is at best naive. Plus BIPOC people have been dealing with this crap for literal centuries, so please understand if it feels like Wallen having a few months of (not really) consequences seems lightweight.
Bones also admits he hasn’t even spoken to Wallen, so…
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 17, 2021 10:34:46 GMT -5
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Post by CoJoFan on Jul 17, 2021 12:04:17 GMT -5
I believe in second chances! Morgan knows he did wrong and has apologized. Everyone in life makes mistakes and for goodness sake he was drunk! People say stupid things when they are drunk! I think if he needs help with anything it’s for his drinking not his language.
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Post by bdrm87 on Jul 17, 2021 14:07:59 GMT -5
I believe in second chances! Morgan knows he did wrong and has apologized. Everyone in life makes mistakes and for goodness sake he was drunk! People say stupid things when they are drunk! I think if he needs help with anything it’s for his drinking not his language. Drunk words are sober thoughts, as they say. I’m fine with Morgan getting another shot, but the idea that his words and actions are solely attributable to alcohol is ignorant at best.
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Post by matty005 on Jul 17, 2021 14:22:04 GMT -5
I believe in second chances! Morgan knows he did wrong and has apologized. Everyone in life makes mistakes and for goodness sake he was drunk! People say stupid things when they are drunk! I think if he needs help with anything it’s for his drinking not his language. You do realize he didn't get in trouble because of language, right? He didn't drop the F bomb at the CMA's. The rest of your argument is about as weak as they come. I have been drunk countless times and have never even come close to using that word.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 17, 2021 14:40:23 GMT -5
The fact that people even here are so quick to defend and want Morgan Wallen back in the genre with open arms, is dissapointing and kind of disgusting. Because for me it feels like he hasn't faced the consequences enough because you can get drunk and not say something offensive. Getting drunk usually makes people stay stuff they truly mean when their guard is down like when drinking.
Also I find it hard to believe Morgan Wallen has changed or deserves a second chance when this story came out a couple months ago
There are plenty more better, non offensive artists who deserve the spotlight in country music over Morgan Wallen, and it annoys me to no end just how quickly people are willing to forgive him. Because where was this attitude when The Chicks said what they said in 2003 about George Bush? Oh wait, it wasn't there because the country music industry forever turned their back on those ladies for what they said, but not even 6 months after Morgan Wallen drops the N word, all is supposed to be forgiven.
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Post by CoJoFan on Jul 17, 2021 14:46:13 GMT -5
I believe in second chances! Morgan knows he did wrong and has apologized. Everyone in life makes mistakes and for goodness sake he was drunk! People say stupid things when they are drunk! I think if he needs help with anything it’s for his drinking not his language. You do realize he didn't get in trouble because of language, right? He didn't drop the F bomb at the CMA's. The rest of your argument is about as weak as they come. I have been drunk countless times and have never even come close to using that word. Im just saying he needs help and he got help! He needs to sober up if anything. I do realize what he said and I don’t agree with it. I have an uncle that is black and he is a country music fan. He’s even said himself Morgan is a talented musician that needs a second chance.
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Post by thewp on Jul 17, 2021 15:00:19 GMT -5
You do realize he didn't get in trouble because of language, right? He didn't drop the F bomb at the CMA's. The rest of your argument is about as weak as they come. I have been drunk countless times and have never even come close to using that word. Im just saying he needs help and he got help! He needs to sober up if anything. I do realize what he said and I don’t agree with it. I have an uncle that is black and he is a country music fan. He’s even said himself Morgan is a talented musician that needs a second chance. If he got help, he needs more, it seems. He’s back to drinking and partying on Broadway. But, I guess, per Bobby Bones, it’s all good, we’ll just wait for his next fuck up. Despite his n-word incident being his 3rd or 4th one in less than a year.
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Post by CoJoFan on Jul 17, 2021 15:10:37 GMT -5
Im just saying he needs help and he got help! He needs to sober up if anything. I do realize what he said and I don’t agree with it. I have an uncle that is black and he is a country music fan. He’s even said himself Morgan is a talented musician that needs a second chance. If he got help, he needs more, it seems. He’s back to drinking and partying on Broadway. But, I guess, per Bobby Bones, it’s all good, we’ll just wait for his next f**k up. Despite his n-word incident being his 3rd or 4th one in less than a year. Love him or hate him what’s gonna happen is gonna happen. Whether he never gets embraced by the country music community again or not is up to them. We can all agree with what he did wrong was wrong. Most of us still enjoy his music and most of us could probably care less if ever released an album again. A part of me would love to see him have another hit someday just because of his musical talent. Also another part of me could honestly care less if he had another hit.
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Post by jessy on Jul 17, 2021 15:19:27 GMT -5
As a Christian I believe In forgiveness. If Jesus can forgive so can I. So I’m all for morgen getting another shot. Which I never quite listening to his music.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 17, 2021 15:22:08 GMT -5
FFS. Here's the thing; even if Wallen has somehow learned from his mistakes, so tf what? As in, there are plenty of talented people trying to make it in country music who aren't getting any kind of shot. So, why tf do people want to rally behind Wallen to give him another shot, as opposed to rallying behind artists who never even had a first shot? That's the key right there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 15:47:35 GMT -5
FFS. Here's the thing; even if Wallen has somehow learned from his mistakes, so tf what? As in, there are plenty of talented people trying to make it in country music who aren't getting any kind of shot. So, why tf do people want to rally behind Wallen to give him another shot, as opposed to rallying behind artists who never even had a first shot? That's the key right there. Because he has a huge fan base and makes pretty good music. I’d take Morgan singing old McDonald had a farm than anything from Niko Moon or Walker Hayes.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 17, 2021 15:59:45 GMT -5
FFS. Here's the thing; even if Wallen has somehow learned from his mistakes, so tf what? As in, there are plenty of talented people trying to make it in country music who aren't getting any kind of shot. So, why tf do people want to rally behind Wallen to give him another shot, as opposed to rallying behind artists who never even had a first shot? That's the key right there. Because he has a huge fan base and makes pretty good music. I’d take Morgan singing old McDonald had a farm than anything from Niko Moon or Walker Hayes. I mean at least Niko Moon and Walker Hayes haven't said or done anything problematic, and both seem like nice guys in real life. Also music is always subjective to the beholder. For me bboat11 put it best when describing Morgan Wallen's music a couple months ago (And I agree with everything he said) "Morgan is an entirely different situation. To lose his catalog is to lose basically the equivalent of one album era of Florida Georgia Line-quality hits, plus a new album that is maaaaybe equivalent to modern day Blake Shelton's output. The "art" in this situation is not worth fighting for And on top of all that, to invite him back into the industry with open arms is to welcome all of his toxic behavior with open arms as well. In fact, since his output is so small, 90% of the people who are rooting for him come across as rooting for him because of his problematic behavior, which is just f**king disgusting, and I don't care if I sound judgmental for saying so." Honestly though, who cares if he is popular? The Chicks were super popular when they got cancelled by the industry, but were they brought back with open arms? Nope.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 17, 2021 16:13:13 GMT -5
I’d take Morgan singing old McDonald had a farm than anything from Niko Moon or Walker Hayes. It's interesting that you chose two white men as the alternative as opposed to the many women and people of color who can't even get a real foot in the door.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 17, 2021 16:15:37 GMT -5
Honestly though, who cares if he is popular? The Chicks were super popular when they got cancelled by the industry, but were they brought back with open arms? Nope. This is what it comes down to, isn't it? Not many people see what he did as being all that bad, which gets back to the tweet about making it about Wallen specifically is to miss the point; the problem is the culture. And people being willing to so readily welcome Wallen back (not to mention Lady A essentially getting a free pass on that whole debacle) is a prime example of the problem with the culture of country music.
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Post by jessy on Jul 17, 2021 16:18:34 GMT -5
My thoughts is I don’t care what artist or what music other people like. Choice of music and artists comes down to personal individual decisions and opinions. I know what I like and someone opinion isn’t going to stop me from liking what I like.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 16:24:49 GMT -5
I’d take Morgan singing old McDonald had a farm than anything from Niko Moon or Walker Hayes. It's interesting that you chose two white men as the alternative as opposed to the many women and people of color who can't even get a real foot in the door. Name a time in the history of country music that 3 black artist have had consistent hits for multiple years? (Rucker, Jimmie, Kane). Should we have more....Of course, but progress is being made. In 2020 we had very successful songs from females. (Kelsea, Gabby, Miranda, Maren, Ingrid, Maddie & Tae) Right now we have Lainey Wilson fixing to have a top 10. Again can the industry do more? Yes....But progress is being made.
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Post by matty005 on Jul 17, 2021 16:30:53 GMT -5
My thoughts is I don’t care what artist or what music other people like. Choice of music and artists comes down to personal individual decisions and opinions. I know what I like and someone opinion isn’t going to stop me from liking what I like. We all know the kind of people you like and the people you don't like. Your postings during the last year have made that quite obvious and it's not your best look, sweetie.
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Post by jessy on Jul 17, 2021 16:32:53 GMT -5
My thoughts is I don’t care what artist or what music other people like. Choice of music and artists comes down to personal individual decisions and opinions. I know what I like and someone opinion isn’t going to stop me from liking what I like. We all know the kind of people you like and the people you don't like. Your postings during the last year have made that quite obvious and it's not your best look, sweetie. Maybe I just have thick enough skin to not care what others think about me. I have a family to support don’t have time to worry about how others view me.
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Post by matty005 on Jul 17, 2021 16:34:01 GMT -5
We all know the kind of people you like and the people you don't like. Your postings during the last year have made that quite obvious and it's not your best look, sweetie. Maybe I just have thick enough skin to not care what others think about me. I have a family to support don’t have time to worry about how others view me. If you don't mind people thinking you're a racist, by all means, be proud of your, "thick skin." God forbid you actually try to change how you are.
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Post by jessy on Jul 17, 2021 16:35:13 GMT -5
Maybe I just have thick enough skin to not care what others think about me. I have a family to support don’t have time to worry about how others view me. If you don't mind people thinking you're a racist, by all means, be proud of your, "thick skin." God forbid you actually try to change how you are. Well I’m not racist but if people want to think that. Well then that’s there opinion so whatever I guess.
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Post by matty005 on Jul 17, 2021 16:36:09 GMT -5
If you don't mind people thinking you're a racist, by all means, be proud of your, "thick skin." God forbid you actually try to change how you are. Well I’m not racist but if people want to think that. Well then that’s there opinion so whatever I guess. I know you think you're not.
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Post by jessy on Jul 17, 2021 16:37:17 GMT -5
Well I’m not racist but if people want to think that. Well then that’s there opinion so whatever I guess. I know you think you're not. I know I’m not. But you and others think I am so mine as well agree to disagree.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 17, 2021 16:59:15 GMT -5
Or you know if people think your racist, you can look at your past actions and really take their words to heart and strive to do better and not be labelled a racist. Because if the overwhelming opinion is that you are racist or at the very least problematic, then you might be the problem not the others.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 17, 2021 18:00:21 GMT -5
My thoughts is I don’t care what artist or what music other people like. Choice of music and artists comes down to personal individual decisions and opinions. I know what I like and someone opinion isn’t going to stop me from liking what I like. This, folks, is called privilege. It's interesting that you chose two white men as the alternative as opposed to the many women and people of color who can't even get a real foot in the door. Name a time in the history of country music that 3 black artist have had consistent hits for multiple years? (Rucker, Jimmie, Kane). Should we have more....Of course, but progress is being made. In 2020 we had very successful songs from females. (Kelsea, Gabby, Miranda, Maren, Ingrid, Maddie & Tae) Right now we have Lainey Wilson fixing to have a top 10. Again can the industry do more? Yes....But progress is being made. For one, we've seen this 'progress' before, only to have it reversed (i.e. see how great the 90s was for women singers in country and then how that went away by the 2010s). For another, it's not just about having radio hits. It's about songwriters, it's about record deals, it's about awards, etc. Meanwhile, this is something I need to keep in mind as well:
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 17, 2021 18:06:52 GMT -5
Or you know if people think your racist, you can look at your past actions and really take their words to heart and strive to do better and not be labelled a racist. Because if the overwhelming opinion is that you are racist or at the very least problematic, then you might be the problem not the others. Right. This is where "I don't care what others think of me" is dangerous. It's good to not be overly sensitive and not internalize everything, but at the same time it's important to be aware of what others think to see what you are projecting (especially when it comes to something like racism).
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