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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 23, 2021 11:21:16 GMT -5
Michael Stahan kinda imploded Chris Harrison’s s**tty redemption tour, so hopefully he’ll call MW out on the same. I failed to understand why you would think a pre-taped (I think?) interview would implode his image, unless Strahan "reflected his unhappiness on the air" again, which I think his team would prevent it from happening. Because Wallen clearly still hasn't learned a damn thing, and this entire situation is supremely frustrating and maddening:
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Post by carriekins on Jul 23, 2021 11:34:54 GMT -5
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Post by nncountrykid on Jul 23, 2021 15:25:20 GMT -5
That’s the interview of a man who doesn't give a shit if people don’t like what he said and knows country radio won’t make him have to care.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 23, 2021 16:36:55 GMT -5
I don’t get why everybody has such a problem with the interview. He’s knows he messed up, has apologized multiple times. and is never going to be able to please everybody as he acknowledges. If he didn’t do an interview and just went straight back to business people would be complaining about that. You seem to think the only two options are no interview, or half-assed interview. Another option, though, would be giving an interview (or other form of communication) where he talks not only about how his actions affected other people (and does so in depth and not as a general statement), but about how the problems are widespread in the country music industry and what he plans to do to help improve the industry. The many issues in country music are well-documented, and Wallen sure af has had plenty of time to not only hear about those issues, but think about them. If you don't understand why it's a problem that he says he hasn't thought about race problems in country music, then you too are a part of the problem. Full stop.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Jul 23, 2021 17:49:50 GMT -5
Off topic, but Ingrid Andress & Sam Hunt have a collaboration coming most likely next week! Based on “Lady Like” likely being done at radio & Sam not having a current radio single, it’ll probably be a Country radio single!
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Post by 🌺CountryLineDancer on Jul 23, 2021 18:00:10 GMT -5
Off topic, but Ingrid Andress & Sam Hunt have a collaboration coming most likely next week! Based on “Lady Like” likely being done at radio & Sam not having a current radio single, it’ll probably be a Country radio single! While sad that Lady Like did not become a hit, hopefully this collaboration will help Ingrid regain momentum on the airplay chart, and becomes her first #1 hit.
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Post by HeyHeyHey on Jul 23, 2021 18:22:52 GMT -5
Off topic, but Ingrid Andress & Sam Hunt have a collaboration coming most likely next week! Based on “Lady Like” likely being done at radio & Sam not having a current radio single, it’ll probably be a Country radio single! Ooh that sounds amazing!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 18:40:59 GMT -5
Off topic, but Ingrid Andress & Sam Hunt have a collaboration coming most likely next week! Based on “Lady Like” likely being done at radio & Sam not having a current radio single, it’ll probably be a Country radio single! I’m still hoping “2016” will be released in the next couple of months. It’s a smash
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 23, 2021 18:57:06 GMT -5
That's certainly one way to get Ingrid Andress another hit! I like the sound of that. It's a shame that women have such a hard time at country radio doing it "on their own," but if slapping them on a song w/ a male artist with a lot of pull gets them up the charts, then at least it's something.
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Post by country11 on Jul 24, 2021 16:16:53 GMT -5
I don’t get why everybody has such a problem with the interview. He’s knows he messed up, has apologized multiple times. and is never going to be able to please everybody as he acknowledges. If he didn’t do an interview and just went straight back to business people would be complaining about that. You seem to think the only two options are no interview, or half-assed interview. Another option, though, would be giving an interview (or other form of communication) where he talks not only about how his actions affected other people (and does so in depth and not as a general statement), but about how the problems are widespread in the country music industry and what he plans to do to help improve the industry. The many issues in country music are well-documented, and Wallen sure af has had plenty of time to not only hear about those issues, but think about them. If you don't understand why it's a problem that he says he hasn't thought about race problems in country music, then you too are a part of the problem. Full stop. We’ll never agree and I’m okay with that because I believe what I believe just as you do. Wallen has done what he should in apologizing for his actions, taking time away, donating money, and meeting with people. Some of you will never be happy unless he goes away completely and never comes back. He flat out said he did not mean it in a racist way, as anyone who watched that video knows. Maybe he’s doesn’t see a race issue in the industry. I don’t. If anything I think there have been more successful black artists in the past 5 years than I ever remember at one time with Darius Rucker, Kane Brown, and Jimmie Allen. But all anyone wants to do is turn everything negative. Just because country music is not filled with black artists doesn’t mean it’s racist. It’s never been filled with black artists. When there are good artists that happen to be black they find success as with those I’ve mentioned. How about the number of white males who can’t find radio success? I don’t see anybody complaining that the industry is unfair to them. So it’s just when a female or a black person aren’t as successful as they maybe should be that the system is biased? I don’t think so. Country music is a hard industry to break into no matter who you are and if you work hard enough and have the talent I truly believe you can find success, but all anyone wants to do is highlight that a person isn’t having success because of their race or gender. If that’s the case why do white males have trouble breaking into the industry?
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 25, 2021 19:53:55 GMT -5
You seem to think the only two options are no interview, or half-assed interview. Another option, though, would be giving an interview (or other form of communication) where he talks not only about how his actions affected other people (and does so in depth and not as a general statement), but about how the problems are widespread in the country music industry and what he plans to do to help improve the industry. The many issues in country music are well-documented, and Wallen sure af has had plenty of time to not only hear about those issues, but think about them. If you don't understand why it's a problem that he says he hasn't thought about race problems in country music, then you too are a part of the problem. Full stop. We’ll never agree and I’m okay with that because I believe what I believe just as you do. Wallen has done what he should in apologizing for his actions, taking time away, donating money, and meeting with people. Some of you will never be happy unless he goes away completely and never comes back. He flat out said he did not mean it in a racist way, as anyone who watched that video knows. Maybe he’s doesn’t see a race issue in the industry. I don’t. If anything I think there have been more successful black artists in the past 5 years than I ever remember at one time with Darius Rucker, Kane Brown, and Jimmie Allen. But all anyone wants to do is turn everything negative. Just because country music is not filled with black artists doesn’t mean it’s racist. It’s never been filled with black artists. When there are good artists that happen to be black they find success as with those I’ve mentioned. How about the number of white males who can’t find radio success? I don’t see anybody complaining that the industry is unfair to them. So it’s just when a female or a black person aren’t as successful as they maybe should be that the system is biased? I don’t think so. Country music is a hard industry to break into no matter who you are and if you work hard enough and have the talent I truly believe you can find success, but all anyone wants to do is highlight that a person isn’t having success because of their race or gender. If that’s the case why do white males have trouble breaking into the industry? You are ignorant.
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Post by gardyfan on Jul 25, 2021 20:08:52 GMT -5
We’ll never agree and I’m okay with that because I believe what I believe just as you do. Wallen has done what he should in apologizing for his actions, taking time away, donating money, and meeting with people. Some of you will never be happy unless he goes away completely and never comes back. He flat out said he did not mean it in a racist way, as anyone who watched that video knows. Maybe he’s doesn’t see a race issue in the industry. I don’t. If anything I think there have been more successful black artists in the past 5 years than I ever remember at one time with Darius Rucker, Kane Brown, and Jimmie Allen. But all anyone wants to do is turn everything negative. Just because country music is not filled with black artists doesn’t mean it’s racist. It’s never been filled with black artists. When there are good artists that happen to be black they find success as with those I’ve mentioned. How about the number of white males who can’t find radio success? I don’t see anybody complaining that the industry is unfair to them. So it’s just when a female or a black person aren’t as successful as they maybe should be that the system is biased? I don’t think so. Country music is a hard industry to break into no matter who you are and if you work hard enough and have the talent I truly believe you can find success, but all anyone wants to do is highlight that a person isn’t having success because of their race or gender. If that’s the case why do white males have trouble breaking into the industry? You are ignorant. The last sentence made that so clear.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Jul 26, 2021 7:33:20 GMT -5
Ingrid Andress announces a solo U.S/EU tour kicking off this fall! I'm very happy she will be able to sneak in a tour this year alongside her opening slot for D+S!
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Post by 14887fan on Jul 26, 2021 7:36:32 GMT -5
Ingrid Andress needs to be one of the next big things in country music. She just needs to be. Please & thank you. Absolutely thrilled to see that she’s getting her own headlining tour.
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Post by country11 on Jul 27, 2021 12:07:16 GMT -5
We’ll never agree and I’m okay with that because I believe what I believe just as you do. Wallen has done what he should in apologizing for his actions, taking time away, donating money, and meeting with people. Some of you will never be happy unless he goes away completely and never comes back. He flat out said he did not mean it in a racist way, as anyone who watched that video knows. Maybe he’s doesn’t see a race issue in the industry. I don’t. If anything I think there have been more successful black artists in the past 5 years than I ever remember at one time with Darius Rucker, Kane Brown, and Jimmie Allen. But all anyone wants to do is turn everything negative. Just because country music is not filled with black artists doesn’t mean it’s racist. It’s never been filled with black artists. When there are good artists that happen to be black they find success as with those I’ve mentioned. How about the number of white males who can’t find radio success? I don’t see anybody complaining that the industry is unfair to them. So it’s just when a female or a black person aren’t as successful as they maybe should be that the system is biased? I don’t think so. Country music is a hard industry to break into no matter who you are and if you work hard enough and have the talent I truly believe you can find success, but all anyone wants to do is highlight that a person isn’t having success because of their race or gender. If that’s the case why do white males have trouble breaking into the industry? You are ignorant. No I’m really not. Just because I believe and see things differently than you and don’t focus on the negative all the time doesn’t make me ignorant.
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Post by bboat11 on Jul 27, 2021 12:35:36 GMT -5
No I’m really not. Just because I believe and see things differently than you and don’t focus on the negative all the time doesn’t make me ignorant. I mean, you are correct with the overall sentiment that the country industry is very difficult for everyone to break into, and I can understand hesitating to attribute race to that when it is factually difficult for everybody to make it in this industry. I can even understand the "not everything has to be about race" sentiment. (Although in this case the discussion is about race because Morgan Wallen made it about race...) But you're also saying "the country industry has never been filled with black artists" like that somehow proves that there's not systemic racism involved with industry politics And then sentences like "When there are good artists that happen to be black they find success" implies that the reason there aren't very many black artists is just because they're not trying hard enough or not good enough, unlike white males who have to face a ton of obstacles and might not make it even if they are good enough. Which comes across as ignorant. Not wanting to focus on the negative all the time does not make you ignorant, and nobody is saying that it does. However, acting like there's no racism in the industry because there are very few black artists to begin with.....that's not a case of people calling you names because they disagree, that's just you creating your own logic to confirm uninformed opinions, lol.
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Post by mnvikings on Jul 27, 2021 14:21:15 GMT -5
No I’m really not. Just because I believe and see things differently than you and don’t focus on the negative all the time doesn’t make me ignorant. I mean, you are correct with the overall sentiment that the country industry is very difficult for everyone to break into, and I can understand hesitating to attribute race to that when it is factually difficult for everybody to make it in this industry. I can even understand the "not everything has to be about race" sentiment. (Although in this case the discussion is about race because Morgan Wallen made it about race...) But you're also saying "the country industry has never been filled with black artists" like that somehow proves that there's not systemic racism involved with industry politics And then sentences like "When there are good artists that happen to be black they find success" implies that the reason there aren't very many black artists is just because they're not trying hard enough or not good enough, unlike white males who have to face a ton of obstacles and might not make it even if they are good enough. Which comes across as ignorant. Not wanting to focus on the negative all the time does not make you ignorant, and nobody is saying that it does. However, acting like there's no racism in the industry because there are very few black artists to begin with.....that's not a case of people calling you names because they disagree, that's just you creating your own logic to confirm uninformed opinions, lol. I would like to hear your opinion on rap/hip-hop music. Does that need to be more welcome to change and diversity or is it fine the way it is? Do some rappers need to apologize for past actions and for their lyrics degrading women?
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Post by bboat11 on Jul 27, 2021 14:49:42 GMT -5
I mean, you are correct with the overall sentiment that the country industry is very difficult for everyone to break into, and I can understand hesitating to attribute race to that when it is factually difficult for everybody to make it in this industry. I can even understand the "not everything has to be about race" sentiment. (Although in this case the discussion is about race because Morgan Wallen made it about race...) But you're also saying "the country industry has never been filled with black artists" like that somehow proves that there's not systemic racism involved with industry politics And then sentences like "When there are good artists that happen to be black they find success" implies that the reason there aren't very many black artists is just because they're not trying hard enough or not good enough, unlike white males who have to face a ton of obstacles and might not make it even if they are good enough. Which comes across as ignorant. Not wanting to focus on the negative all the time does not make you ignorant, and nobody is saying that it does. However, acting like there's no racism in the industry because there are very few black artists to begin with.....that's not a case of people calling you names because they disagree, that's just you creating your own logic to confirm uninformed opinions, lol. I would like to her your opinion on rap/hip-hop music. Does that need to be more welcome to change and diversity or is it fine the way it is? Do some rappers need to apologize for past actions and for their lyrics degrading women? Lol there's quite a few casual rap/hip hop fans in the country forum, and I don't want to get myself into trouble with them 😂 But I will say that I do frequently find a lot of rap lyrics to be incredibly problematic, which is one of the reasons I don't really like the genre. But honestly, I don't know nearly enough about those genres to have any fully-formed opinions about things like their openness to change and diversity, things that happened in the past, etc. Not sure if that's the answer you're looking for, but I'm pretty much just a country boy through and through :)
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Post by matty005 on Jul 27, 2021 15:06:45 GMT -5
I would like to her your opinion on rap/hip-hop music. Does that need to be more welcome to change and diversity or is it fine the way it is? Do some rappers need to apologize for past actions and for their lyrics degrading women? Lol there's quite a few casual rap/hip hop fans in the country forum, and I don't want to get myself into trouble with them 😂 But I will say that I do frequently find a lot of rap lyrics to be incredibly problematic, which is one of the reasons I don't really like the genre. But honestly, I don't know nearly enough about those genres to have any fully-formed opinions about things like their openness to change and diversity, things that happened in the past, etc. Not sure if that's the answer you're looking for, but I'm pretty much just a country boy through and through :) They asked the question to play the, "both sides," card. It's so transparent and sad. Thank you bboat11 for responding kindly and maturely. I just can't do that when clearly racist comments are made.
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Jul 27, 2021 16:59:57 GMT -5
I would like to hear your opinion on rap/hip-hop music. Does that need to be more welcome to change and diversity or is it fine the way it is? Do some rappers need to apologize for past actions and for their lyrics degrading women? This is the Country Music forum so we are gonna discuss the issues that pertain to Country music and not rap/hip/hop here. If you want to discuss that issue in that genre there are forums on here that are dedicated to that genre with people more knowledgeable about those issues.
Though I am going to say, issues in one genre does not mean we should lesson or ignore problems of another genre. The Country music genre, and industry, has some major issues with the way minorities, women, and the LGBTQA communities are treated. The Morgan Wallen situation in my opinion is disgusting and those who feel like his music is better than the problem he caused by saying a derogatory word, context does not matter when it is that word, are a huge part of the problem. As someone who has been a huge fan of Country music since the mid-90s I've seen the way the industry treats non-white men. This problem is bigger than the music and Morgan Wallen being a casualty of people demanding change is necessary. To me it is the same as someone like Trace Adkins being ignored for being an ignorant homophobic jerk. Enough is enough!
Also back on the Morgan Wallen situation. He said something that was insulting to an entire race of people and is getting a free pass while The Chicks have never been welcomed back by the Country community for a comment about how she disapproved of how the President at the time was handling things. That right there is extremely sad. If Morgan was a woman or someone of color he'd be done but because he is a white straight man he is being given another chance (cannot say second chance as he's already used up a couple of those).
What a rapper does or does not do is not the issue at hand here and frankly if a black person chooses to use that word that is their prerogative but a white person saying it is never okay. End of story. Not sure why this is continuously debated because there is no other side to as far as that goes. The only people who are arguing against this or trying to say things differently are those who are either ignorant or racist.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 27, 2021 19:34:36 GMT -5
No I’m really not. Just because I believe and see things differently than you and don’t focus on the negative all the time doesn’t make me ignorant. On this specific issue it does make you ignorant.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 28, 2021 19:58:12 GMT -5
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Post by christianlarson9 on Jul 29, 2021 10:49:40 GMT -5
Ingrid Andress will release her new single “Wishful Drinking” on Monday, August 2nd! It set to be a collaboration with Sam Hunt. Based on the production from the snippet, it sounds like one of Sam’s producer worked on it. While I’m not a huge fan of it compared to her piano arrangements, I do think this could help her get some traction back on Country Radio. vm.tiktok.com/ZMdvQLF8Y/
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Post by recordyear on Jul 29, 2021 18:26:51 GMT -5
CMA Summer Jam will air on September 2nd. Performers include Jimmie Allen, Gabby Barrett, Dierks Bentley, Brothers Osborne, Luke Bryan, Luke Combs, Florida Georgia Line, Mickey Guyton, Miranda Lambert, Carly Pearce, Blake Shelton, Gwen Stefani, Cole Swindell, Thomas Rhett, Carrie Underwood, Lainey Wilson and Dwight Yoakam, and additional performances by Dierks Bentley with BRELAND and HARDY live from Bentley’s Whiskey Row nightclub on Broadway; Eric Church from the center of the city’s John Seigenthaler Pedestrian Bridge overlooking the Cumberland River; and Darius Rucker taking the outdoor stage at Nashville’s brand new Fifth & Broadway complex downtown. www.soundslikenashville.com/news/cma-summer-jam-special-will-air-on-abc-september-2/
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Post by christianlarson9 on Jul 30, 2021 10:15:14 GMT -5
Kacey Musgraves texted fans that her new album is coming soon!
If you want to sign up to get texts from her, here is the number: 888-821-1988
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Jul 30, 2021 10:23:11 GMT -5
Kacey Musgraves texted fans that her new album is coming soon! If you want to sign up to get texts from her, here is the number: 888-821-1988 I just posted about this in her album thread too! I really hope that we get a single in the next week or two, but I'd take an announcement of a release date for the album just so I know how much longer I have to be patient for, lol.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Jul 30, 2021 10:28:55 GMT -5
Kacey Musgraves texted fans that her new album is coming soon! If you want to sign up to get texts from her, here is the number: 888-821-1988 I just posted about this in her album thread too! I really hope that we get a single in the next week or two, but I'd take an announcement of a release date for the album just so I know how much longer I have to be patient for, lol. I've been seeing some rumors that the lead single should be coming next Friday! I hope the rumors are true because I'm so ready for some new Kacey music!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2021 17:41:34 GMT -5
Kacey Musgraves texted fans that her new album is coming soon! If you want to sign up to get texts from her, here is the number: 888-821-1988 I hope she goes back to a more country sound. Pageant Material was fabulous.
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