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Post by cowboy on Aug 11, 2013 10:18:10 GMT -5
After a few more listens it sounds less and less like brave. I think when a song first comes out and you are not familiar with it you find similarities with other songs, then once it becomes familiar it takes on its own character. When I first listened to one of the boys I thought all the songs sounded the same, now I don't think any of them are alike
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 10:18:12 GMT -5
lol, it's already beginning Bill Werde @bwerde 11h Very similar piano underpinning both songs, but not a rip-off, IMHO. Katy/#Roar: m.soundcloud.com/tnt-10/kpnrim#t=0:11 … Sara/Brave: m.soundcloud.com/mmmusic/sara-bareilles-brave … Bill Werde @bwerde 11h makes it clear to me the katy/sara songs are similar but not same RT @kurttrowbridge: @bwerde comparison here: youtu.be/xBA9d-9nnsk Bill Werde @bwerde 11h Similar piano on verses, but very different choruses. Agree with Bill. It seems like every time a major female pop star releases a song, it becomes all about who they're ripping off. Maybe it's just because most pop hits are derivative. If this went to trial, Sara Bareilles wouldn't stand a chance. They're not similar enough.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 11, 2013 10:37:13 GMT -5
The only real similarities I notice are with the pianos in the verses and the stops between the chorus and the verses. Other than that, I think this is another case of people looking for something that in the end, isn't really there.
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Post by Jack on Aug 11, 2013 10:50:23 GMT -5
I like it very much. Euphoric. I also like she's not used some sort of gimmick to 'brand it'. By which I mean it's targeted at/playing off lesbians, west coasters, people celebrating the fourth of July, teenagers, people who want to party in Vegas etc.. It's a pure, unaffected Pop song. Although Simba and co. might have something to say about it.
As for the "Brave" thing, I can usually see people reaching. But this really is as close as close can be. It's obvious her and Sara have sorted it all out behind the scenes. With songs like Halo and Already Gone, the instrumentals are very similar obviously, but the melodies, lyrics etc. are very different. With Brave and Roar, almost every element is at least strikingly similar.
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Post by Kurt on Aug 11, 2013 10:56:02 GMT -5
Bill Werde @bwerde 11h makes it clear to me the katy/sara songs are similar but not same RT @ KurtTrowbridge: @bwerde comparison here: youtu.be/xBA9d-9nnsk*bows* But yeah, while they're similar, I certainly don't think Sara could feasibly sue, and it's not even a sample, so that theory from the person on last.fm (lol) holds no water. It's not as if it's a really uncommon chord structure to begin with.
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Post by chartfreak on Aug 11, 2013 10:59:40 GMT -5
so is this on iTunes tomorrow? Obviously #1 debut is way out the window.
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Post by kevvybitch on Aug 11, 2013 11:14:30 GMT -5
What will Roar have to do to debut at #1?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 11:17:36 GMT -5
What will Roar have to do to debut at #1? It would need to blow past Taylor Swift's 623k first week record for sure.
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Post by kevvybitch on Aug 11, 2013 11:18:38 GMT -5
What will Roar have to do to debut at #1? It would need to blow past Taylor Swift's 623k first week record for sure. What about airplay & streaming?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 11:21:41 GMT -5
Ew. lol how 1987
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Post by allow that on Aug 11, 2013 11:22:35 GMT -5
It would need to blow past Taylor Swift's 623k first week record for sure. What about airplay & streaming? "Blurred Lines" has more airplay than the #2 and #6 songs on Hot 100 Airplay combined. High hopes in hell for anyone expecting Katy to have an airplay advantage.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 11, 2013 11:28:51 GMT -5
What will Roar have to do to debut at #1? Not have released yesterday.
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Post by Living Legend on Aug 11, 2013 11:37:34 GMT -5
This will probably debut in the 80s this week and then jump into the Top 2 next week.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 11:38:36 GMT -5
"Blurred Lines" has more plays than #2 THROUGH #6?? :o Dayum lol but anyway I really like this. It's catchy! Welcome back Katy
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 11:40:14 GMT -5
"Blurred Lines" has more plays than #2 THROUGH #6?? :o Dayum No 1. ROBIN THICKE – Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I: 276.862 (+ 2.028) 2. DAFT PUNK – Get Lucky: 155.509 (- 2.117) 6. ZEDD – Clarity f/Foxes: 122.846 (- 0.010)
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Post by Envoirment on Aug 11, 2013 12:01:59 GMT -5
Is this video coming out on youtube? I'm sure Katy can challenge for the #1 spot if she releases the video to help with streaming.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Aug 11, 2013 12:16:02 GMT -5
I think this song s incredibly safe. I like it but it's just kinda there for me. There are other songs I'm more interested in.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Aug 11, 2013 12:18:01 GMT -5
Thats kinda how I feel. Maybe its a grower. Yeah, I think I want Katy Perry to be sexy and edgier than before but this is so stale and doesnt stand out at all. Dayum Im shocked actually. I think edgier stuff is probably on the cd. They just wanted a nice little inoffensive song to start it out and be a guaranteed hit. There is no reason NOT to play a generic inspirational song by Katy Perry so it will definitely be huge on radio. Then, meatier second single (hopefully). You are probably right. Why not bring the current fanbase in and then grow it with the future singles.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Aug 11, 2013 12:19:42 GMT -5
I can imagine the video for Roar as being epic with an explosive ending. I stopped counting how many times Ii've listened to this. My weekend is heaven on earth.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 11, 2013 12:32:46 GMT -5
I wonder how long the deal will last? Like, if they bought three days will it last last night through Tuesday?
Gaga and Katy tweeting each other was cute-I wonder if they really respect each other or hate each other though lol. I hope if they stay friendly some of the fan wars will die down though. There is room for both and they aren't even really the same except for being roughly the same age and working in roughly the same genre.
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Post by Hierophant on Aug 11, 2013 12:37:15 GMT -5
thnks to this song now I cant stop listen Brave.
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Post by Hashtag Pow on Aug 11, 2013 13:01:37 GMT -5
This sounds like a generic pop hit... A lot of the lyrics are EMBARRASSING. It doesn't sound so similar to Brave that I am distracted or bothered by it. I honestly didn't even think about it until all these comparisons started popping up. Brave is the better song anyway... *shrug*
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 11, 2013 13:19:07 GMT -5
The verses are my favorite part. Pure pop.
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Post by chartfreak on Aug 11, 2013 13:27:24 GMT -5
What will Roar have to do to debut at #1? Not have released yesterday. exactly can't happen with 4 days of airplay. however does anyone know if its on iTunes tomorrow?
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Post by Lozzy on Aug 11, 2013 13:29:09 GMT -5
Not have released yesterday. exactly can't happen with 4 days of airplay. however does anyone know if its on iTunes tomorrow? should be (US that is)
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Post by kc98 on Aug 11, 2013 13:38:28 GMT -5
I like it very much. Euphoric. I also like she's not used some sort of gimmick to 'brand it'. By which I mean it's targeted at/playing off lesbians, west coasters, people celebrating the fourth of July, teenagers, people who want to party in Vegas etc.. It's a pure, unaffected Pop song. Although Simba and co. might have something to say about it. As for the "Brave" thing, I can usually see people reaching. But this really is as close as close can be. It's obvious her and Sara have sorted it all out behind the scenes. With songs like Halo and Already Gone, the instrumentals are very similar obviously, but the melodies, lyrics etc. are very different. With Brave and Roar, almost every element is at least strikingly similar. I see what you did there.
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Post by Kurt on Aug 11, 2013 13:40:25 GMT -5
Not have released yesterday. exactly can't happen with 4 days of airplay. however does anyone know if its on iTunes tomorrow? Katy confirmed it's out at midnight Eastern (though, if it's anything like a typical Tuesday release, iTunes will actually have it at 11:00pm).
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Post by jsizzle on Aug 11, 2013 13:57:37 GMT -5
I am so in love with this bop! There is a reason I stan for this woman. When she first came onto the scene, pop music desperately needed some excitement again and she BROUGHT it! I can't wait to see this climb to #1 (and it will) and to see what else she has in store for us this era. Even with the streaming changes to the Hot 100 formula, I still feel that she and her team can pull out all the stops to possibly tie, or even beat, her #1s record from the last era. Slay me Katy! :(
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Aug 11, 2013 15:40:53 GMT -5
I'm underwhelmed. It certainly doesn't live up to any of her smashes from her last era. However it is current, which coming from Dr. Luke is more than I was expecting. There's just nothing extra special about it, IMO.
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Post by The Upper Hand on Aug 11, 2013 15:57:29 GMT -5
Is it "I got the eye of the tiger, the fire, dancing through the fire" or "I got the eye of the tiger, the fighter, dancing through the fire"?
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