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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 15, 2013 12:22:48 GMT -5
'Her fans' can be as broad or narrow a term as you want it to be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 13:07:03 GMT -5
Legit question. Do you actually like this song/Katy or are you just happy Katy is beating Gaga lol? Lovin' the updates. Never doubt Ms. Perry or her fans!! Not only 'her fans' are buying "Roar".. Did I stutter.
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Post by cowboy on Aug 15, 2013 13:14:08 GMT -5
I dont get the fan wars here between gaga and Katy. their fan base is probably 90% overlapping
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 15, 2013 13:18:26 GMT -5
I dont get the fan wars here between gaga and Katy. their fan base is probably 90% overlapping Those 10% of people are pretty vocal, I suppose. And people love to watch their non-favs fail, even if they actually love them. I didn't even know Katy had this many fans (here). Where were they before when was effortlessly smashing while not actually directly competing with anyone in particular?
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 15, 2013 13:21:37 GMT -5
I dont get the fan wars here between gaga and Katy. their fan base is probably 90% overlapping Pulse is actually being relatively calm with two major pop divas releasing at the same time. The actual fighting isn't really there or its very short lived. This wouldn't be happening if it were Britney and Gaga, or we were ATRL, though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 13:25:14 GMT -5
Ya this is tame compared to Xtina Vs. Britney, Britney Vs. Beyonce, Beyonce Vs. Rihanna, GaGa Vs. Britney, Mariah Vs. Madge/Whitney, Xtina Vs. Anyone.
And of course some Katy fans are gonna gloat, the same would happen if the roles were reversed and GaGa was leading on Itunes....Some GaGa stans would be "rubbing it in" (Josh for one) while Katy stans would try and excuse as to why this is happening. It's the nature of the beast.
As for my question, I was being serious with Holiday Guy. I never knew he liked Katy or anything, so I found it weird that he was praising her success.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 15, 2013 13:35:17 GMT -5
LOL @ the josh name drop. Sometimes I drop his name too because I want people to think I know him, thus giving me more respect. #kingofpulse
Unfortunately, you're right though. Gaga fans would have gloated and the situation would probably be the same. Either way, I know I'd be annoyed and I'd be accused as being a sore loser who's overly defensive or a sore winner who's bragging and gloating. I try to avoid both.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 13:46:12 GMT -5
To be honest, Gag and Katy could have a battle to the death (along with their fans), and I wouldn't even care. All I'm concerned about is the UK iTunes performance of the two songs threatening the queen of the UK (Ellie, ofc), and since neither are a threat to her #1, I don't give two flying f**ks about the Gaga or Katy going against one another.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 13:49:05 GMT -5
LOL @ the josh name drop. Sometimes I drop his name too because I want people to think I know him, thus giving me more respect. #kingofpulse Unfortunately, you're right though. Gaga fans would have gloated and the situation would probably be the same. Either way, I know I'd be annoyed and I'd be accused as being a sore loser who's overly defensive or a sore winner who's bragging and gloating. I try to avoid both. Strange. I just name drop him because I think he's a douche. xoxo
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 15, 2013 14:14:17 GMT -5
I actually do like "Roar," jback. :) It really doesn't phase me one way or the other, if it's selling more than another track. Some think that anything that one releases, no matter who it is, is going to be an out-of-this-world smash, and we should know by now that that is not the case.
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Aug 15, 2013 14:15:46 GMT -5
I dont get the fan wars here between gaga and Katy. their fan base is probably 90% overlapping Pulse is actually being relatively calm with two major pop divas releasing at the same time. The actual fighting isn't really there or its very short lived. This wouldn't be happening if it were Britney and Gaga, or we were ATRL, though. There are at least 5X more hardcore fans on here compared to Katy's. And it seems for the most part on Pulse, us hardcore KatyCats aren't rubbing it in, but it's moreso just the general Gaga haters. Katy's has a huge fan base, and especially outside of the general mainstream pop audience. She such a huge universal appeal! It ranges from my 5 year old cousin to a 60+ year old guy I work with who was telling me yesterday how much he liked Roar!
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Post by RadioBeatz on Aug 15, 2013 14:18:36 GMT -5
'Her fans' can be as broad or narrow a term as you want it to be. What is considered a fan? I know people that buy 2 or 3 Katy/Rihanna/Gaga/etc, songs they heard on the radio and don't follow anything related to them. As far as I knew, fan = fanatic? One of cousin of mine bought "Wide Awake" last year and now she bought "Roar" she doesn't have any other Katy song or album, she' suddenly a fan? I'd call her a casual/common buyer that listen to radio and buy singles.
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 15, 2013 14:22:02 GMT -5
I think you're linking 'fans' too closely with 'stans'. To me, 'her fans' means the stans plus the more casual music fans who happen to like her. And if someone's willing to buy a song or two of hers here and there, then they may not particularly be a fan of her, but they like her enough that they're open to buying that song of hers that they like.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 15, 2013 14:23:02 GMT -5
lol, I think you're just reading too much into jback's post.
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Post by dzjx on Aug 15, 2013 14:42:55 GMT -5
well my brother owns a couple of her songs, but is in no way a fan - so what is he classed as?
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Post by RadioBeatz on Aug 15, 2013 15:00:00 GMT -5
I think you're linking 'fans' too closely with 'stans'. To me, 'her fans' means the stans plus the more casual music fans who happen to like her. And if someone's willing to buy a song or two of hers here and there, then they may not particularly be a fan of her, but they like her enough that they're open to buying that song of hers that they like. Well back in 2008 I bought "Lollipop" and in 2011 "How to Love" but I'd NEVER EVER, in a thousand years, call myself a Lil' Wayne fan but whatever hehe - "Roar" now has a lead of 55% over "Applause". :)
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 15, 2013 15:03:30 GMT -5
But you don't hate Lil' Wayne so much that you would never buy one of his songs ever no matter how little or much it appealed to you, that was my point.
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Post by Caviar on Aug 15, 2013 16:16:52 GMT -5
well my brother owns a couple of her songs, but is in no way a fan - so what is he classed as? Casual fan. Omg...I CAN'T at some of you debating on what a fan is. A fan is someone who buys the artist music and follow their career and yet generally in the know about their public profile. A casual fan (such as me) only buy music from said artist that I like with almost zero intention of wanting to see them live. A Stan is someone who meets all the above criteria of a fan but is obsessed with said artist and participates in online AND offline fan wars. Duh
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Post by sbp17 on Aug 15, 2013 16:17:41 GMT -5
I don't like her but I bought this song.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 16:22:19 GMT -5
Legit question. Do you actually like this song/Katy or are you just happy Katy is beating Gaga lol? Lovin' the updates. Never doubt Ms. Perry or her fans!! Not only 'her fans' are buying "Roar".. OMG. Can we all just shut the fuck up about this fan thing. I was only going to say "Never doubt Ms. Perry" but I knew Holiday Guy would go on about how it's the people buying her stuff that's making her #1 blah blah blah...so I threw in fans..... Lovin' the updates. Never doubt Ms. Perry, her fans, the Lil Wayne fan, the haters, the people that were curious, the people that bought it because they heard it on the radio and thought it was Brave, the people who bought it because they just hate GaGa, the people who like the song but hate Katy, the people who were gifted it by the Katy Perry stan friends who then deleted it, the grandma's who downloaded it because they thought it would make them cool, the people who hate Katy, but feel bad for themselves so they downloaded it to make them feel better, the people who didn't download it, the people who may download it, and rest of the general public. There, better? Done.... So Roar is still doing well, eh?
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Post by Keelzit on Aug 15, 2013 16:25:16 GMT -5
well my brother owns a couple of her songs, but is in no way a fan - so what is he classed as? Casual fan. Omg...I CAN'T at some of you debating on what a fan is. A fan is someone who buys the artist music and follow their career and yet generally in the know about their public profile. A casual fan (such as me) only buy music from said artist that I like with almost zero intention of wanting to see them live. A Stan is someone who meets all the above criteria of a fan but is obsessed with said artist and participates in online AND offline fan wars. Duh I consider myself a fan of Katy, Rihanna, GaGa etc. I follow them daily, want to see them live, look up to their style, know all of their songs etc. I've never EVER bought a single album/song by them. Basically I don't spend money on music unless it's Britney or Lana but that doesn't make me any less of a fan of someone just because she's not my fave.
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Post by josh on Aug 15, 2013 16:26:30 GMT -5
LOL @ the josh name drop. Sometimes I drop his name too because I want people to think I know him, thus giving me more respect. #kingofpulse Unfortunately, you're right though. Gaga fans would have gloated and the situation would probably be the same. Either way, I know I'd be annoyed and I'd be accused as being a sore loser who's overly defensive or a sore winner who's bragging and gloating. I try to avoid both. Strange. I just name drop him because I think he's a douche. xoxo I feel the love.
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Post by Ace on Aug 15, 2013 16:27:15 GMT -5
So my friend works at MTV and is pretty high up, and he shared some details from the VMA performance with me. Apparently it's costing them 2.6m to produce her performance...she's going to jump from the Brooklyn Bridge onto a boat in the East River and perform there, and there are going to be fireworks in the background.
Don't Hold It Against Me /Britney if this info is wrong, but this is a friend of mine who I know personally and is usually right about this stuff.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 15, 2013 16:27:48 GMT -5
Now, whatever this ridiculous little spat is just end now, please. K, thanks!
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Post by Juanca on Aug 15, 2013 16:40:02 GMT -5
I'm a fan of Katy, Beyonce, Cher, Gwen, Fergie, Shania, Kelly, Carrie, RiRih, Avril. I'm a major fan of Alanis, Shakira, Kylie, Mariah, Cindy, Celine, Whitney, and more recently Britney, Xtina. And I'm mostly a Stan for Madonna and P!nk, and more recently Gaga :)
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Post by cowboy on Aug 15, 2013 16:41:06 GMT -5
So my friend works at MTV and is pretty high up, and he shared some details from the VMA performance with me. Apparently it's costing them 2.6m to produce her performance...she's going to jump from the Brooklyn Bridge onto a boat in the East River and perform there, and there are going to be fireworks in the background. Don't Hold It Against Me /Britney if this info is wrong, but this is a friend of mine who I know personally and is usually right about this stuff. That sounds incredibly dangerous
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 16:43:51 GMT -5
So my friend works at MTV and is pretty high up, and he shared some details from the VMA performance with me. Apparently it's costing them 2.6m to produce her performance...she's going to jump from the Brooklyn Bridge onto a boat in the East River and perform there, and there are going to be fireworks in the background. Don't Hold It Against Me /Britney if this info is wrong, but this is a friend of mine who I know personally and is usually right about this stuff. No shade, but I could totally see GaGa announce that's she's jumping from the Empire state building, with rockets in the background...either that or 20 bucks says a Monster tries to cut Katy's line before she jumps :x But no seriously, that sounds like an epic performance. Oh Mary Joseph Jesus, please let this happen. Her performances aren't always the best, but I could see this coming off really well.
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Post by cowboy on Aug 15, 2013 16:55:45 GMT -5
So my friend works at MTV and is pretty high up, and he shared some details from the VMA performance with me. Apparently it's costing them 2.6m to produce her performance...she's going to jump from the Brooklyn Bridge onto a boat in the East River and perform there, and there are going to be fireworks in the background. Don't Hold It Against Me /Britney if this info is wrong, but this is a friend of mine who I know personally and is usually right about this stuff. No shade, but I could totally see GaGa announce that's she's jumping from the Empire state building, with rockets in the background...either that or 20 bucks says a Monster tries to cut Katy's line before she jumps :x But no seriously, that sounds like an epic performance. Oh Mary Joseph Jesus, please let this happen. Her performances aren't always the best, but I could see this coming off really well. How is that no shade?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 17:00:31 GMT -5
I didn't mean for it to be mean? I dunno. I wasn't trying to mock GaGa but with even her own stans saying that she(and her company)may have "leaked" Applause to compete with Katy, I could see her try to up one Katy again. And on the other side of the coin I could see a crazed Katy loon try to cut GaGa's line too. Believe me, I know if the shoe was on the other foot and GaGa was above Katy, the Monsters would be celebrating and us Katy fans would be in denial too. It does with any stan bases. Hell, Beyonce could run over a child, drunk as a skunk and I'd still defend and make excuses for her. I understand Stanning is a serious thing.
Roar is doing good now, but who's to say after the video Applause won't do better and than it's the Katy stans on the defensive. Either way, it's entertaining and hard on the head.
Go Roar!
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Post by Legenderry on Aug 15, 2013 17:15:56 GMT -5
So my friend works at MTV and is pretty high up, and he shared some details from the VMA performance with me. Apparently it's costing them 2.6m to produce her performance...she's going to jump from the Brooklyn Bridge onto a boat in the East River and perform there, and there are going to be fireworks in the background. Don't Hold It Against Me /Britney if this info is wrong, but this is a friend of mine who I know personally and is usually right about this stuff. That sounds incredibly dangerous I was thinking that too.
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