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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 21, 2013 17:24:33 GMT -5
this is headed straight for #1 on CHR. I don't see anything stopping or blocking it. Applause won't. Blurred Lines can't be #1 forever. I also see it hitting #1 on Hot AC and re-tying P!nk. If it doesn't hit #1 on the Hot 100 next week, then the NEXT week is for sure on lock (with the video looming). I can see Britney hitting #1, but we've got a few weeks before that happens. then again, by that time, Katy might block Britney. Not for long tho.
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Post by rosemoor on Aug 21, 2013 17:28:57 GMT -5
so it's a BL vs. Roar now? Applause is not even in the running? poor gaga. didn't expect that.
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Post by Keelzit on Aug 21, 2013 17:47:24 GMT -5
this is headed straight for #1 on CHR. I don't see anything stopping or blocking it. Applause won't. Blurred Lines can't be #1 forever. I also see it hitting #1 on Hot AC and re-tying P!nk. If it doesn't hit #1 on the Hot 100 next week, then the NEXT week is for sure on lock (with the video looming). I can see Britney hitting #1, but we've got a few weeks before that happens. then again, by that time, Katy might block Britney. Not for long tho. By the time Brit's song comes out this won't be pulling 500k downloads nor will it have the airplay BL has to block anything from the top. The G0dney will get her week at the top fo' sho.
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Post by Β€ Matthea Β€ on Aug 21, 2013 17:47:39 GMT -5
Eh, Billboard's HOT 100 is the Frankenstein of music charts, mixing apples with oranges and pears. Meaningless. Sales, radioplay and streaming should not be combined. Keep the charts separate. I definitely think digital sales are the most important aspect of the three, followed by streaming. Radio is ... well ... hard to take seriously, considering how corrupt the system is. Selected few songs played over and over again ... it's hard to call it "radio" these days.
I wish the American charts moved faster. 11 weeks at #1 for Blurred Lines.... how boring. I was really hoping somebody ... anybody would finally take over. Katy's new song seemed like "the one", but with the current HOT 100 formula "#1 debuts" or "#1's mostly based on sales" are mission impossible.
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Post by Keelzit on Aug 21, 2013 17:52:17 GMT -5
I don't get how a faster moving chart would be better. If a song is huge for a long time I see no reason why it shouldn't be represented on the chart. The UK chart might be more 'exciting' but it hardly reflects how big a song is. The Hot 100 formula is definitely flawed though. 70% sales, 20% streaming and 10% airplay would be the ideal formula for me.
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Post by josh on Aug 21, 2013 17:59:57 GMT -5
I don't get how a faster moving chart would be better. If a song is huge for a long time I see no reason why it shouldn't be represented on the chart. The UK chart might be more 'exciting' but it hardly reflects how big a song is. The Hot 100 formula is definitely flawed though. 70% sales, 20% streaming and 10% airplay would be the ideal formula for me. UK (and basically every other country in the world) radio moves way faster than US, though, so the sales DO reflect how songs are. Well, holding songs back affects lead/2nd singles, but still lol
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 21, 2013 18:01:46 GMT -5
i'm sure that's why they are "holding back" on Roar's release in the UK.
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Post by Gold Soundz on Aug 21, 2013 18:03:55 GMT -5
It's just absurd that an artist can sell over half a million singles in a week and be #2 to a song that sold half as many.
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Post by Lozzy on Aug 21, 2013 18:06:53 GMT -5
i'm sure that's why they are "holding back" on Roar's release in the UK. Because everybody does that
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 21, 2013 18:08:38 GMT -5
well then that's obviously how the game is played there.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 21, 2013 18:17:11 GMT -5
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Post by Spidey on Aug 21, 2013 18:22:17 GMT -5
Not surprised "Blurred Lines" remains at No. 1 this week. Its airplay is just too big to overcome just yet!
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Aug 21, 2013 21:00:11 GMT -5
Spins so far today:
AC 24 Hot AC 345 Rhythmic 107 Top 40 951
And just got informed this:
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Aug 21, 2013 21:55:10 GMT -5
^ spins so far.... can't wait to see the KPU tomorrow morning.
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Post by Gold Soundz on Aug 21, 2013 22:18:45 GMT -5
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Post by cowboy on Aug 21, 2013 22:53:36 GMT -5
Rules are only convenient when it favors your favorites at the moment? I actually think Katy is best positioned to take advantage of billboard rules, being a strong digital seller, radio darling, and with a young fan base that streams
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 22:59:48 GMT -5
Rules are only convenient when it favors your favorites at the moment? I actually think Katy is best positioned to take advantage of billboard rules, being a strong digital seller, radio darling, and with a young fan base that streams I've voiced my distaste for Billboard's chart methodology very strongly in the past - especially when the new formula was unveiled. I'm sure there are people here who can attest to that.
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Post by dbhmr on Aug 22, 2013 0:47:44 GMT -5
It's just absurd that an artist can sell over half a million singles in a week and be #2 to a song that sold half as many. Why? Sales aren't the only measure of popularity and the Billboard Hot 100. Most people saw this coming.
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Post by Gold Soundz on Aug 22, 2013 1:02:05 GMT -5
It's not that I didn't see it coming, it's that it still sucks.
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Post by Hussy on Aug 22, 2013 1:14:14 GMT -5
oh well she will be crowned next week for sure with VMAs and the video ;)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 1:36:37 GMT -5
It just shows how massive BL is to withstand... no shade no T but she should feel fortunate for everything she got.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 7:18:44 GMT -5
So, Blurred Lines is still 0.51 on iTunes. Roar hasn't fallen at all since Monday :o This is getting another 400k week easily
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 22, 2013 7:25:10 GMT -5
It's funny that people were so angry when streaming was added into the Hot 100 because it was taking away from radio - and now radio is over-represented? Only when it affects your favs, huh? Personally, I think radio should be represented less than it is in the Hot 100 because then it gives more power to the people listening/buying/enjoying the music. But of course, then you have the krazy psycho stans that ruin that so maybe radio is fine the way it is, acting as a mediator.
Blurred Lines is a monster and I certainly wouldn't take it to court that Roar came in at #2. Sucks for this week but I'm certain it'll get there soon anyway. Besides, at least Roar is stuck behind an actual giant smash rather than a randomass #1 that nobody will remember in 2 weeks.
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Post by Spidey on Aug 22, 2013 7:48:45 GMT -5
It's funny that people were so angry when streaming was added into the Hot 100 because it was taking away from radio - and now radio is over-represented? Only when it affects your favs, huh? Personally, I think radio should be represented less than it is in the Hot 100 because then it gives more power to the people listening/buying/enjoying the music. But of course, then you have the krazy psycho stans that ruin that so maybe radio is fine the way it is, acting as a mediator. Blurred Lines is a monster and I certainly wouldn't take it to court that Roar came in at #2. Sucks for this week but I'm certain it'll get there soon anyway. Besides, at least Roar is stuck behind an actual giant smash rather than a randomass #1 that nobody will remember in 2 weeks. My problem with the addition of streaming was not that it was taking away from airplay, it was taking away from the weight of sales. I like how the Hot 100 incorporates all aspects of the industry (sales, streaming & airplay), but I think the most weight should be put toward sales. It is a little bit ridiculous that Katy was able to sell 557k copies and still not reach the top spot. Another example would be Justin Bieber's "Boyfriend" debuting at #2 despite selling a huge 542k in its first week.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 7:54:08 GMT -5
It's funny that people were so angry when streaming was added into the Hot 100 because it was taking away from radio - and now radio is over-represented? Only when it affects your favs, huh? Personally, I think radio should be represented less than it is in the Hot 100 because then it gives more power to the people listening/buying/enjoying the music. But of course, then you have the krazy psycho stans that ruin that so maybe radio is fine the way it is, acting as a mediator. Blurred Lines is a monster and I certainly wouldn't take it to court that Roar came in at #2. Sucks for this week but I'm certain it'll get there soon anyway. Besides, at least Roar is stuck behind an actual giant smash rather than a randomass #1 that nobody will remember in 2 weeks. My problem with the addition of streaming was not that it was taking away from airplay, it was taking away from the weight of sales. I like how the Hot 100 incorporates all aspects of the industry (sales, streaming & airplay), but I think the most weight should be put toward sales. It is a little bit ridiculous that Katy was able to sell 557k copies and still not reach the top spot. Another example would be Justin Bieber's "Boyfriend" debuting at #2 despite selling a huge 542k in its first week. You have to look at the competition. Boyfriend may have sold 512k first week, but We Are Young was also selling around 380k that week, but with the added bonus of a crapload of airplay. Same way, Blurred Lines is the biggest airplay hit of all time and still selling a ton. It actually would have been #2 just based on airplay and sales, but its streaming pushed it to another week at #1. Streaming is controlled by the public.
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Post by SuperTrouper on Aug 22, 2013 8:14:04 GMT -5
Where's today's update?
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Post by Pikachu. on Aug 22, 2013 8:18:03 GMT -5
POP: 20 14 KATY PERRY Roar 7142 4219 2923 49.195
+330 spins -469 bullet +1.667 Audience
HOT AC: 24 14 KATY PERRY Roar 2492 1286 1206 20.246
+155 spins -110 bullet +1.162 Audience
AC: 42 28 KATY PERRY Roar 137 39 98 0.633
+17 spins +8 bullet +0.056 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 49 33 KATY PERRY Roar 747 433 314 4.139
+56 spins -26 bullet +0.292 Audience
OVERALL: 13. KATY PERRY β Roar: 81.071 (+ 3.547) β²
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Post by thisbeautifulmess on Aug 22, 2013 8:18:35 GMT -5
Blurred Lines is the biggest airplay hit of all time. That's inaccurate. The world didn't start in 2010. Even if it was true, it's impossible to prove, since there isn't data available to compare airplay across eras. Not to mention that the number of radio stations existing during each of those eras would also have to be factored in, etc.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 22, 2013 8:20:08 GMT -5
EDIT: Pikachu beat me. :)
Keeps on roarin'.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 8:29:34 GMT -5
It's funny that people were so angry when streaming was added into the Hot 100 because it was taking away from radio - and now radio is over-represented? Only when it affects your favs, huh? Personally, I think radio should be represented less than it is in the Hot 100 because then it gives more power to the people listening/buying/enjoying the music. But of course, then you have the krazy psycho stans that ruin that so maybe radio is fine the way it is, acting as a mediator. Blurred Lines is a monster and I certainly wouldn't take it to court that Roar came in at #2. Sucks for this week but I'm certain it'll get there soon anyway. Besides, at least Roar is stuck behind an actual giant smash rather than a randomass #1 that nobody will remember in 2 weeks. Exactly and it could be worse. It could be at #6 instead. Blurred Lines defeated Roar fair and square(there is a formula and BL had more points with that formula). It sucks but it is what it is, you Katy Stan's have nobody to blame but your selfs(where were you when Max and other GaGa Stan's were giving out blowjobs for sales?) 50k more and she could have got #1 With the way this is holding up on itunes(even the haters gotta admit its holding up well ) and with radio gains I'm sure she will get their eventually.
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