Do Any Country Singers Approve of Gay Fans?

[layne]

Jun 18, 2012 11:40:15 GMT -5 Hunter said:

Sara Evans tweeted not too long ago about how awesome some songwriter was in Nashville. And, come to find out, he's on that show Girls Who Like Boys Who Like Boys. So I'd definitely say she wasn't ashamed!

He also has a co-write on Carrie Underwood's current CD.

[Uncle Lumpy]

Not to split hairs , but I don't think anybodys that's ever recorded a song by an openly gay writer can be automatically dropped in the "pro" camp. After all even Rush Limbaugh hired Elton John to sing at his wedding, & I think we all know what he thinks of non heterosexuals .

[layne]

Jun 18, 2012 12:37:44 GMT -5 Uncle Lumpy said:

Not to split hairs , but I don't think anybodys that's ever recorded a song by an openly gay writer can be automatically dropped in the "pro" camp. After all even Rush Limbaugh hired Elton John to sing at his wedding, & I think we all know what he thinks of non heterosexuals .

My point was that he is indeed an awesome songwriter and he has a song on Carrie's CD. I wasn't lumping anyone into "Pro".

[Uncle Lumpy]

Jun 18, 2012 13:02:53 GMT -5 layne said:

Jun 18, 2012 12:37:44 GMT -5 Uncle Lumpy said:

Not to split hairs , but I don't think anybodys that's ever recorded a song by an openly gay writer can be automatically dropped in the "pro" camp. After all even Rush Limbaugh hired Elton John to sing at his wedding, & I think we all know what he thinks of non heterosexuals .

My point was that he is indeed an awesome songwriter and he has a song on Carrie's CD. I wasn't lumping anyone into "Pro".

Ah. Gotcha.

Looking at the artists thats recorded his stuff , I doubt hes my cup of tea. But its cool that hes open with his sexuality and still succesful.

[.indulgecountry]

Jun 18, 2012 13:02:53 GMT -5 layne said:

Jun 18, 2012 12:37:44 GMT -5 Uncle Lumpy said:

Not to split hairs , but I don't think anybodys that's ever recorded a song by an openly gay writer can be automatically dropped in the "pro" camp. After all even Rush Limbaugh hired Elton John to sing at his wedding, & I think we all know what he thinks of non heterosexuals .

My point was that he is indeed an awesome songwriter and he has a song on Carrie's CD. I wasn't lumping anyone into "Pro".

I think Lumpster was aiming his comment more at Hunter for the initial suggestion that Sara Evans is possibly pro-gay as a result of this. As a fellow stan of her's, I would love to have that confirmation, but I'm not getting it from this information.

[layne]

Jun 18, 2012 13:15:05 GMT -5 .indulgecountry said:

Jun 18, 2012 13:02:53 GMT -5 layne said:

My point was that he is indeed an awesome songwriter and he has a song on Carrie's CD. I wasn't lumping anyone into "Pro".

I think Lumpster was aiming his comment more at Hunter for the initial suggestion that Sara Evans is possibly pro-gay as a result of this. As a fellow stan of her's, I would love to have that confirmation, but I'm not getting it from this information.

Ok, I wasn't sure, and didn't want anyone to think I was trying to insinuate anything either way, I guess I should have listed Lady Antebellum as well as recording his song since it maybe appeared I was signaling out Carrie because of her recent comments. He's openly Gay and the songwriting community here in Nashville seems to have accepted him fine. He's a great guy.

[Uncle Lumpy]

Yea, it wasnt necessarily aimed at any artist in particular. I was just making the point that recording a song by an gay writer wouldn't necessarily say where an artist falls on this issue.

[Kanenrá:ke]

Which writer are you guys talking about?

[Uncle Lumpy]

Jun 18, 2012 13:48:35 GMT -5 Kanenrá:ke said:

Which writer are you guys talking about?

Shane Stevens. I googled him this morning when he was first mentioned (and ogled him too for that matter shew). He does seem like a genuinely good guy & I like how he defended Blake Sheltons supposedly homophobic comments. Which goes to show you how easily things can be misinterpreted in these political correct days with social media sites.

This made me truly "LOL"

"He loves me," Stevens said. "And I love and adore him. Last year when something was on Twitter or somebody took it the wrong way, I was like, 'OK, people, I've known him since I was 17 years old. He's far beyond being a homophobe. He'll pinch my ass and pick on me and tell me he loves me. He'll say, 'I know you're gay but, really, the blue nails last night?'"

[rsmatto]

Right, Blake Shelton says stupid stuff but, he's far from a homophobe.

Shane co-wrote "American Honey" for/with Lady A and "Second Hand Heart" the single Danny Gokey released.

Also, I highly DOUBT Shane Stevens is the only gay songwriter getting cuts in Nashville right now. It's just that he was on TV with his bestie Sherrie Austin.

[.indulgecountry]

I guess Sherrie Austin could be added to "the list" then.

[Uncle Lumpy]

Jun 18, 2012 14:13:18 GMT -5 rsmatto said:

Also, I highly DOUBT Shane Stevens is the only gay songwriter getting cuts in Nashville right now. .

Hes not. <cough>

www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/28/cheri-oteris-dad-stabbed_n_99039.html

[tim]

I have been kind of looking over this thread for a while and was hesitant to post for many reasons. I know that there isn't a big tent for gays in the country music demographic. That being said, I am a 29 year old lifelong country boy (hence my username ha). I grew up in Nebraska (one of the more red states you'll ever find) and well always knew I was "different" and then realized after I very much could have died serving my country in Iraq decided not to live a lie anymore. My first concert was Pirates of the Mississippi and from then on I was in love with country music. I'm one of the biggest George Strait fans you'll ever come across I think (I've seen him 14 times and working on at least 20 hopefully before he retires!). I also grew up a big Don Williams fan and just happened to buy his new album today. I am also one of the unfortunate few let go from the military due to DADT (and I can tell you once my comrades found out we all became much closer friends...not the other way around like many would like for you to think). This gay country music fan is also going to see Asleep at the Wheel this weekend...watch out Gruene Hall!

So there it is...we are out there (no pun intended).

[Uncle Lumpy]

Welcome to the board countryboi and thank you for the service. And Im sorry you were treated that way.

[.indulgecountry]

Happy to have you here in our country community here at PMB, countryboi! You most certainly are not alone. <3

[layne]

Welcome to the board countryboi.

[jaseboyhyde]

Thanks for your service, Countryboi.
I'm not homosexual, and I do not live or personally agree with the lifestyle. That doesn't mean I judge or look down on those who do. I have a lot of friends who are gay. I was a music major years ago, and formed many bonds and friendships within the GLBT community. They all knew and respected my orientation, and I gave them the same respect and acceptance. I don't want to get into an argument about whether or not one is born that way or chooses it, because I know we will just have to agree to disagree, which is fine with me.
I am a Christian, and I know many gays that are also Christians. I believe a Christian is someone who has placed their faith in Jesus Christ for eternal life. I have YET to meet a perfect Christian, but every Christian I know is made perfect by the blood and works of Christ, regardless of their own good deeds or shortcomings. The ones posting the links to the homosexual/hell-bound/sinful articles are probably well intentioned, but I disagree with them. I also disagree with people who stand outside liquor stores with pickets, screaming about how we are all going to hell. Either Christ died to redeem ALL sin for ALL believers, or He died in vain. I do not believe He died in vain. I don't like hypocrites.

I don't know how artists personally feel about gay fans, but I can't imagine it really matters to them what their fans do in their own time with their own lives.
I can't help but wonder though...some of you who post here don't like certain artists because of their political views or personalities, right? Is it any different IF an artist didn't "like" certain fans because of their orientation, or political views, etc?
I don't think it really matters, or is any different, except that the fans write the paychecks for the artists, not the other way around.
Ultimately, I think artists appreciate all of their fans, regardless of what they believe or approve of, or what lifestyle their fans live. It isn't the artists' job to approve of someone's lifestyle, nor is it their job to use their celebrity as a political or social soapbox, in my opinion. Some are more open about it, and some of those that aren't probably have hesitations about the lifestyle but are smarter than to open their mouths about it because, in the end, they would rather the gay fans continue coming and supporting them than to aggravate an entire community, causing way more unnecessary strife and disappointment from the fans than anything positive.

I don't intend to offend anyone here. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and their own lives, and I respect that.
I also don't intend to preach or violate board rules regarding getting off topic. I have a belief system, but this isn't the place to go on a religious rant. I just thought it appropriate in response to some of the previous posts, and I wanted to let you know that I'm not approaching this subject with an attitude of condescension.

[musicbuff78]

Jun 20, 2012 17:48:32 GMT -5 jaseboyhyde said:

I don't know how artists personally feel about gay fans, but I can't imagine it really matters to them what their fans do in their own time with their own lives.

And I can't imagine it matters to ANYONE what people do behind their own closed doors or with whom they do it with.

I'll be the first to admit the minute I see something religious in ANY post or thread, I choose to bypass it because of my Atheist views (so I couldn't read most of this post-----no offense).

I don't treat anyone different if they are a devout catholic, mormon or whatnot....so why should others treat those who are different any different, regardless of the reason?

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I appreciate the sentiment of your post, Jas, and am glad you offered it here. :)
Although you did state that you didn't want to debate, I'll respect that but I would like to add the mere fact that being homosexual is not a choice. I speak from experience and the evidence is too much to ignore. Nobody, Christian, athiest or otherwise would choose this way of life willingly. Those of us that consider ourselves proud do so because we grow and embrace it due to the negativity toward us. But I can promise that 99% of gay people have faced and experienced self-issues in regards to being gay upon initially coming to terms with it - because of how it is viewed by certain members of society. It's not a choice. If I can be sure of anything in my life, it's not a choice.

[phoenixwillrise]

Probably already covered, but Carrie was intererviewed on UK TV two days ago and said she supports gay marriage

[jaseboyhyde]

Jun 20, 2012 20:21:27 GMT -5 musicbuff78 said:

And I can't imagine it matters to ANYONE what people do behind their own closed doors or with whom they do it with.

That was largely my point. I agree, unless their actions are illegal or affect others negatively in some manner.

Jun 20, 2012 20:21:27 GMT -5 musicbuff78 said:

I'll be the first to admit the minute I see something religious in ANY post or thread, I choose to bypass it because of my Atheist views (so I couldn't read most of this post-----no offense).

This is a topic about acceptance and understanding, right? It's hard to understand, respect, or accept someone else's differing opinions, values, or beliefs if you choose not to even consider what it is they are saying. I respect your beliefs, and your decision to not read religious themes. Most of my post had nothing to do with religion, except for one paragraph. If you ignored "most" of my post, you missed a lot. No offense taken, though, just a little confusion I suppose.

Jun 20, 2012 20:21:27 GMT -5 musicbuff78 said:

I don't treat anyone different if they are a devout catholic, mormon or whatnot....so why should others treat those who are different any different, regardless of the reason?

If you would have read my post, you would have seen that I don't think that way. But I agree, people shouldn't treat others differently, and those who do are sometimes misinformed, misunderstood, or both.

Take care.

[jaseboyhyde]

Jun 20, 2012 21:46:15 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

I appreciate the sentiment of your post, Jas, and am glad you offered it here. :)
Although you did state that you didn't want to debate, I'll respect that but I would like to add the mere fact that being homosexual is not a choice. I speak from experience and the evidence is too much to ignore. Nobody, Christian, athiest or otherwise would choose this way of life willingly. Those of us that consider ourselves proud do so because we grow and embrace it due to the negativity toward us. But I can promise that 99% of gay people have faced and experienced self-issues in regards to being gay upon initially coming to terms with it - because of how it is viewed by certain members of society. It's not a choice. If I can be sure of anything in my life, it's not a choice.

Max, I don't know why anyone would choose any lifestyle that causes strife and hardship. Vegetarians and animal rights activists bring all kinds of scrutiny on themselves. It doesn't make them bad people, and it doesn't make it the "wrong" choice. I also am not saying they are the same, I know it is completely different. I'm not arguing for homosexuality as a choice, per say, just giving an example of why sometimes people knowingly do choose a harder road for themselves. IF it's a worthy cause in their eyes, and something they believe in and have feelings about, people embrace things that not everyone accepts.
It definitely isn't the same scenario for all people.
Without going into great detail, a member of my own family was homosexual. He was born with both male and female organs. I still am somewhat undecided on the whole "born that way" or "decision" issue, and I choose not to debate it because like I said, I see both sides and we wouldn't agree because I do not speak from experience, but opinion, which is highly subjective.
I realize this is getting a bit off subject, so for that I apologize. I still believe that most artists, no matter their own beliefs, accept and appreciate all of their fans. Republican or Democrat, straight or gay, man or woman.
Thanks for the polite response.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Are you saying he was homosexual because he was born with both parts? I think this opens up an even deeper discussion into gender identity which goes beyond sexual orientation and definitely a lot harder to understand because even fewer of us can empathize with people whose gender identity differs from what their genitals are. I think people born with both sexual organs usually are given surgery at the discretion of the doctor who picks whether they live as a physical boy or girl but there's always a chance that they grow up with as the wrong one. That has nothing to do with sexual orientation though.

But as for opinions and debates, there really is room for either when it comes to orientation being a choice. If its a choice, I think everyone should choose to be gay for just one day even of just to experience it. I'd totally try to be straight for a day....but I can't. Because it's not a choice.

[carrieidol1]

Jun 21, 2012 8:44:59 GMT -5 jaseboyhyde said:

Jun 20, 2012 21:46:15 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

I appreciate the sentiment of your post, Jas, and am glad you offered it here. :)
Although you did state that you didn't want to debate, I'll respect that but I would like to add the mere fact that being homosexual is not a choice. I speak from experience and the evidence is too much to ignore. Nobody, Christian, athiest or otherwise would choose this way of life willingly. Those of us that consider ourselves proud do so because we grow and embrace it due to the negativity toward us. But I can promise that 99% of gay people have faced and experienced self-issues in regards to being gay upon initially coming to terms with it - because of how it is viewed by certain members of society. It's not a choice. If I can be sure of anything in my life, it's not a choice.

Max, I don't know why anyone would choose any lifestyle that causes strife and hardship. Vegetarians and animal rights activists bring all kinds of scrutiny on themselves. It doesn't make them bad people, and it doesn't make it the "wrong" choice. I also am not saying they are the same, I know it is completely different. I'm not arguing for homosexuality as a choice, per say, just giving an example of why sometimes people knowingly do choose a harder road for themselves. IF it's a worthy cause in their eyes, and something they believe in and have feelings about, people embrace things that not everyone accepts.
It definitely isn't the same scenario for all people.
Without going into great detail, a member of my own family was homosexual. He was born with both male and female organs. I still am somewhat undecided on the whole "born that way" or "decision" issue, and I choose not to debate it because like I said, I see both sides and we wouldn't agree because I do not speak from experience, but opinion, which is highly subjective.
I realize this is getting a bit off subject, so for that I apologize. I still believe that most artists, no matter their own beliefs, accept and appreciate all of their fans. Republican or Democrat, straight or gay, man or woman.
Thanks for the polite response.

There's not much to argue, sexuality for anyone is not a choice. I can't prove why, but I cannot prove why not. That doesn't sound too convincing, but that really is all there is to it. Just as you didn't chose, I didn't either.

The member of your family who was a hermaphrodite, (I assume by the ranging organs), doesn't have much to do with the argument either. Clearly, people's sexual organs have little to do with their overall sexuality. As weird as this is, it's true. Having a penis doesn't make you straight, it makes you a male. Having a vagina makes you female, but has nothing to do with sexual preference. So sexual organs only serve to classify gender, not sexuality. It's important to keep gender and sexuality separate in discussion(s) because they have little to do with each other. So I'm unsure why you brought into the discussion your homosexual hermaphrodite relative, but his or her hermaphroditism has absolutely nothing to do with his or her sexual identity.

[Uncle Lumpy]

I agree with Max, if there is anything you can take away from this conversation jaseboyhyde, please understand that there is NO choice involved in sexuality. I guess there may be a small percentage of bi-bisexuals that choose , but that percentage would be minuscule. There's simply no reason anyone would choose a lifestyle that could very possibly get them abandoned by their friends, family & churches, or even sentenced to death in some country's.

Can people choose to live a heterosexual lifestyle? Absolutely. I did. I spent the first thirty years of my life living a lie, with devastating results. I grew up in the Bible Belt, believing all the lies about homosexuality. That it was a sin. That it was disgusting. That it was changeable. That it was a choice. I hated myself for the things in my head & did everything in my power to distance myself from them. I founf a woman , that I loved (though not as I should have). I married, had children, bought a house and lived the "American Dream". Though , I never acted on it, I knew I was a homosexual. Toward the end of my marriage , my mind was slowly coming unraveled and I drank and "medicated" myself into a stupor , just to live with myself. In the end , I'm not proud of it, but I damaged alot of lives of people I loved, while trying to be somebody and something I was simply not born to be. It took me a long time to get comfortable in my skin, but the last ten years of my life have been the happiest. I would never regret my two kids, they are my life , but I do regret the circumstances that brought them into the world. I guess my point is, you can choose to live your life AS a heterosexual , but that does not make you a heterosexual.

I'm not attacking you. I like your live and let live attitude. That's how I live my life as well. But you do need to know the whole "choice" thing is false. I would even go as far as calling it a lie. Personally , I believe this is a belief that alot of churches try to push, so they can have an excuse to discriminate. "Hey its not our fault if they CHOOSE a sinful lifestyle".And it is also what turns off many gay people (and those that support them) from most organized religions.

[jaseboyhyde]

Jun 21, 2012 9:50:37 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Jun 21, 2012 8:44:59 GMT -5 jaseboyhyde said:

Max, I don't know why anyone would choose any lifestyle that causes strife and hardship. Vegetarians and animal rights activists bring all kinds of scrutiny on themselves. It doesn't make them bad people, and it doesn't make it the "wrong" choice. I also am not saying they are the same, I know it is completely different. I'm not arguing for homosexuality as a choice, per say, just giving an example of why sometimes people knowingly do choose a harder road for themselves. IF it's a worthy cause in their eyes, and something they believe in and have feelings about, people embrace things that not everyone accepts.
It definitely isn't the same scenario for all people.
Without going into great detail, a member of my own family was homosexual. He was born with both male and female organs. I still am somewhat undecided on the whole "born that way" or "decision" issue, and I choose not to debate it because like I said, I see both sides and we wouldn't agree because I do not speak from experience, but opinion, which is highly subjective.
I realize this is getting a bit off subject, so for that I apologize. I still believe that most artists, no matter their own beliefs, accept and appreciate all of their fans. Republican or Democrat, straight or gay, man or woman.
Thanks for the polite response.

There's not much to argue, sexuality for anyone is not a choice. I can't prove why, but I cannot prove why not. That doesn't sound too convincing, but that really is all there's to it. Just as you didn't chose, I didn't either.

The member of your family who was a hermaphrodite, (I assume by the ranging organs), doesn't have much to do with the argument either. Clearly people's sexual organs have little to do with their overall sexuality. As weird as this is, it's true. Having a penis doesn't make you straight, it makes you a male. So sexual organs only serve to classify gender, not sexuality. I'm unsure why you brought up your homosexual hermaphrodite relative, but his or her hermaphroditism has absolutely nothing to do with his or her sexual identity.

To you, Carrie and to Max, I just brought him up as an example that there are other facets of these arguments that all tie in together, and things can become very confusing to the ultra closed-minded.
Not everything is black and white, set in stone, etc... I am not saying he was gay because he was born with both, I'm saying without a paradigm shift, people might never even consider those other factors.
What if the doctor chose him to be male, when in fact he "was" or "Should have been" female? Would that not "prove" that he didn't "Choose" to be gay, but was just attracted to who he was intended to be attracted to, but was viewed by society as gay?
It just adds another dimension to the debate, and opens other possibilities that sometimes people don't even consider.
I'm not an expert on the subject, and as I said anything I think is based solely on subjective opinion.
Being right or wrong on this is not important to me, folks. I'm going to respectfully bow out of this "debate". I genuinely don't intend to inflame here.
Please feel free to private message me, where we can discuss things further if you desire, but I won't discuss the "choice or not" aspect of this any further on the public board.

Thank you for your responses.

[jaseboyhyde]

Jun 21, 2012 10:00:29 GMT -5 Uncle Lumpy said:

I agree with Max, if there is anything you can take away from this conversation jaseboyhyde, please understand that there is NO choice involved in sexuality. I guess there may be a small percentage of bi-bisexuals that choose , but that percentage would be minuscule. There's simply no reason anyone would choose a lifestyle that could very possibly get them abandoned by their friends, family & churches, or even sentenced to death in some country's.

Can people choose to live a heterosexual lifestyle? Absolutely. I did. I spent the first thirty years of my life living a lie, with devastating results. I grew up in the Bible Belt, believing all the lies about homosexuality. That it was a sin. That it was disgusting. That it was changeable. That it was a choice. I married, had children, bought a house and lived the "American Dream". Though , I never acted on it, I knew I was a homosexual. Toward the end of my marriage , my mind was slowly coming unraveled and I drank and "medicated" myself into a stupor , just to live with myself. In the end , I'm not proud of it, but I damaged alot of lives of people I loved, while trying to be somebody and something I was simply not born to be. It took me a long time to get comfortable in my skin, but the last ten years of my life have been the happiest. I would never regret my two kids, they are my life , but I do regret the circumstances that brought them into the world. I guess my point is, you can choose to live your life AS a heterosexual , but that does not make you a heterosexual.

I'm not attacking you. I like your live and let live attitude. That's how I live my life as well. But you do need to know the whole "choice" thing is false. I would even go as far as calling it a lie. Personally , I believe this is a belief that alot of churches try to push, so they can have an excuse to discriminate. "Hey its not our fault if they CHOOSE a sinful lifestyle".And it is also what turns off many gay people (and those that support them) from most organized religions.

Thanks Lumpster.
I appreciate your response. I'll send you a private message.

[carrieidol1]

Jun 21, 2012 10:05:27 GMT -5 jaseboyhyde said:

Jun 21, 2012 9:50:37 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

There's not much to argue, sexuality for anyone is not a choice. I can't prove why, but I cannot prove why not. That doesn't sound too convincing, but that really is all there's to it. Just as you didn't chose, I didn't either.

The member of your family who was a hermaphrodite, (I assume by the ranging organs), doesn't have much to do with the argument either. Clearly people's sexual organs have little to do with their overall sexuality. As weird as this is, it's true. Having a penis doesn't make you straight, it makes you a male. So sexual organs only serve to classify gender, not sexuality. I'm unsure why you brought up your homosexual hermaphrodite relative, but his or her hermaphroditism has absolutely nothing to do with his or her sexual identity.

To you, Carrie and to Max, I just brought him up as an example that there are other facets of these arguments that all tie in together, and things can become very confusing to the ultra closed-minded.
Not everything is black and white, set in stone, etc... I am not saying he was gay because he was born with both, I'm saying without a paradigm shift, people might never even consider those other factors.
What if the doctor chose him to be male, when in fact he "was" or "Should have been" female? Would that not "prove" that he didn't "Choose" to be gay, but was just attracted to who he was intended to be attracted to, but was viewed by society as gay?
It just adds another dimension to the debate, and opens other possibilities that sometimes people don't even consider.
I'm not an expert on the subject, and as I said anything I think is based solely on subjective opinion.
Being right or wrong on this is not important to me, folks. I'm going to respectfully bow out of this "debate". I genuinely don't intend to inflame here.
Please feel free to private message me, where we can discuss things further if you desire, but I won't discuss the "choice or not" aspect of this any further on the public board.

Thank you for your responses.

Your example has more to do with Transgenderism. In your hypothetical example, "she" was accidentally made a "he", but her sexuality remained unchanged. The only factor that changed was her gender, not sexuality. While some closed-minded people might view this as homosexuality, it really isn't at all. Again, her overall gender appearance was changed, but she was still acting in her original gender-role. Her original gender-role was; female, and her original sexuality was; heterosexual. It just appeared as homosexuality because she appeared to be a male. So this also is hardly a factor in the whole "choice" debate. But I pleasantly appreciate your openminded views on this all, and respect your choice to bow out, as will I.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I also appreciate your discussion jasboyhyde. It's refreshing that even with your position you're able to participate in this type of discussion with an open mind. I apologize if I have come off as harsh at all, I certainly didn't intent to be. I can be when people seem to refuse to accept or consider certain things but you haven't been that way at all. Cheers!

[Uncle Lumpy]

Sounds like Willie is cool with the Gays. Not that Im suprised about that.


"Rednecks, hippies, misfits—we’re all the same. Gay or straight? So what? It doesn’t matter to me. We have to be concerned about other people, regardless.” Willie Nelson

www.parade.com/celebrity/2010/06/willie-nelson.html