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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2011 23:00:21 GMT -5
This interview. :)
That could be a minor hint that he supports it, but it could be a joke in reference to the recent widespread of gay marriage acceptance that occurred throughout the last decade. I don't know, but I'll take the thrown-out joke with a grain of salt for now, rather than it being a sign that he supports the rights.
But, regardless, it's something. It's nice to see such a list of total prominence in Country music support such a worthy proposition. :)
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Post by joey2002 on Aug 21, 2011 0:14:57 GMT -5
^ most every artist is friendly to their gay fans but who knows what they really feel about gay rights and marriage, etc. They're smart to keep quiet about such topics as to not lose some loyal fans. Yeah, this makes sense. I can see why many artists/groups won't go into too much detail about their views on hot button issues—they simply don't want to lose fans on either side. However, I'd imagine that pretty much all of the top country artists would be friendly and love every single one of their fans—even if they don't agree on certain topics...
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Post by rsmatto on Aug 21, 2011 2:07:59 GMT -5
^^^Blake tweeted when the NY Gay Legal Marriage Law was passed: " blake Shelton: are u happy about the gay law being passed? Yes! I'm very gay about it!!!" Something along those lines, but that was the ultimate basis of the tweet. So you can add him to the list. Carrie's never been one to express her political stance at all, and she's even said that she doesn't like it when celebrities do it, so we really can't throw her in very much unless she makes a thorough statement about it. Brad and Miranda haven't ever spoken out about anything involving the topic, either. I'm just glad to see that Nashville has evolved an awful, awful lot. This was what I was talking about. They choose not to even talk about it as to not alienate fans from either side of "the issue".
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Post by Dominic on Aug 21, 2011 9:08:07 GMT -5
I have a feeling that the more conservative ones probably don't approve of it, like Trace Adkins and Toby Keith. Rascal Flatts definitely approves; when their album Unstoppable came out, they mentioned that one of the songs, Love Who You Love, has become a sort of gay anthem and they're happy about it. I think most of the younger artists wouldn't have any issue with gay fans, whereas the older generation might.
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Post by rsmatto on Aug 21, 2011 11:45:47 GMT -5
I have a feeling that the more conservative ones probably don't approve of it, like Trace Adkins and Toby Keith. Rascal Flatts definitely approves; when their album Unstoppable came out, they mentioned that one of the songs, Love Who You Love, has become a sort of gay anthem and they're happy about it. I think most of the younger artists wouldn't have any issue with gay fans, whereas the older generation might. You'd be surprised at what 'conservative' people approve of or 'accept.' Rascal Flatts takes the stance of 'do not judge others unless you want to be judged yourself' and are quite conservative in their religious beliefs (Jay even works on CCM artists albums as producer). Most artists just keep their thoughts to themselves about such hot button topics and many likely follow the same stance I know RF is taking, the 'who are we to judge somebody else's life." It reminds me of something I saw about TV personality Adam Carolla today. He rants on his podcast all the time and has often said if something doesn't affect his life personally, he doesn't care what others do. Yet he ranted about gay marriage and gay advocates being in your face in California and other places and he is now getting lots of 'flack' for it when, clearly, he really doesn't care and wants people to be happy and he wants to be left alone himself (he's conservative politically, liberal socially and agnostic). Toby Keith and Trace Adkins are many things but don't hang the 'hate tag' on them until they prove otherwise.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Aug 21, 2011 12:30:30 GMT -5
^Good, so I'm not the only person who's conservative politically and liberal socially.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 21, 2011 13:56:40 GMT -5
I definitely feel like most country artists are not going to openly support gay rights (even if they approve or don't mind it), while I would have a hard time seeing most of them reject their fans for being gay. That just sounds silly.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Aug 21, 2011 14:26:58 GMT -5
^Good, so I'm not the only person who's conservative politically and liberal socially. Nope. You are not alone. It sure is rough to decide who to vote for come election time though.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Aug 21, 2011 14:28:21 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Carrie hates gay people.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Aug 21, 2011 14:37:52 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Carrie hates gay people. Quite a bold statement to make without anything to back it up.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Aug 21, 2011 14:45:33 GMT -5
Yea "hate" is too strong a word, but she's done/said nothing that makes me believe she's supportive or approves of gay fans.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 15:27:10 GMT -5
Yea "hate" is too strong a word, but she's done/said nothing that makes me believe she's supportive or approves of gay fans. And she's done/said nothing to make anyone believe that she hates them. I'd like some receipts if you're going to just throw a statement so huge out there.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Aug 21, 2011 15:37:03 GMT -5
Yea "hate" is too strong a word, but she's done/said nothing that makes me believe she's supportive or approves of gay fans. And she's done/said nothing to make anyone believe that she hates them. I'd like some receipts if you're going to just throw a statement so huge out there. I see yr reading comprehension is still lacking. You made a comment about her not liking "to express her political stance" but showing love and support for gays, especially if they're fans that support YOU, is not "political". I remember a few years back she said she would never sing at a gay event because it was against her religions or something like that. Please show me your receipts of her being supportive. I'll wait.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 15:40:39 GMT -5
And she's done/said nothing to make anyone believe that she hates them. I'd like some receipts if you're going to just throw a statement so huge out there. I see yr reading comprehension is still lacking. You made a comment about her not liking "to express her political stance" but showing love and support for gays, especially if they're fans that support YOU, is not "political". I remember a few years back she said she would never sing at a gay event because it was against her religions or something like that. Please show me your receipts of her being supportive. I'll wait. I read the "hate is a strong word," and I also read the "but" afterwards, which made me think that you disregarded the strength of the word. It was a misinterpretation; chill. Where did I say that Carrie shows love and support for gays? ??? I said that she's never expre ssed (that censor is pissing me off) any political stance, and therefore we can't make any legitimate assumptions on her beliefs or what she supports. Show you the receipts of her being supportive? Seeing as I never said that in the first place and all I did was say that although your statement may be true, it could easily be contradictory, but we may never know, you're not going to be getting receipts because I have nothing to prove.
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Post by Typo on Aug 21, 2011 15:41:22 GMT -5
Carrie loves everybody. I remember a few years back she said she would never sing at a gay event because it was against her religions or something like that. That's entirely fabricated.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Aug 21, 2011 15:43:16 GMT -5
Oh my lord. Approving of gay fans has nothing to do with politics. This isn't a discussion about gay marriage bb. The comment that she made about not performing at gay events because it's against her religion is enough for me to say she does NOT approve.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 15:46:03 GMT -5
Oh my lord. Approving of gay fans has nothing to do with politics. This isn't a discussion about gay marriage bb. The comment that she made about not performing at gay events because it's against her religion is enough for me to say she does NOT approve. Okay, you're just twisting words now. a) Gay marriage was never brought up. b) When did this whole "won't sing because it's against her religion" episode even happen? I don't recall this ever happening.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Aug 21, 2011 15:48:35 GMT -5
Oh my lord. Approving of gay fans has nothing to do with politics. This isn't a discussion about gay marriage bb. The comment that she made about not performing at gay events because it's against her religion is enough for me to say she does NOT approve. Okay, you're just twisting words now. a) Gay marriage was never brought up. b) When did this whole "won't sing because it's against her religion" episode even happen? I don't recall this ever happening. a) obviously. That's why your need to bring politics into the discussion is beyond my understanding. b) Typo says it never happened, maybe it didn't. I heard this years ago before I was a fan of her, right after Idol I believe.
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Post by StillTheSame on Aug 21, 2011 15:50:14 GMT -5
I was going to add Sugarland to the list, but someone else did it for me. Jennifer has always had a gay/lesbian following back from the Jennifer Nettles Band/Soul Miners Daughter days.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 15:53:06 GMT -5
Okay, you're just twisting words now. a) Gay marriage was never brought up. b) When did this whole "won't sing because it's against her religion" episode even happen? I don't recall this ever happening. a) obviously. That's why your need to bring politics into the discussion is beyond my understanding. b) Typo says it never happened, maybe it didn't. I heard this years ago before I was a fan of her, right after Idol I believe. a) It can be related to a political stance. That's why it was brought up. b) If it never happened, then why come in here and make a big ordeal about it? And if you thought that it might've happened, at least bring in the proof to back it up. Google is a good BFF.
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Post by Typo on Aug 21, 2011 15:55:31 GMT -5
Mandisa said she would never perform at LGBT events due to her beliefs. And then, for whatever reason, people put those words in Carrie's mouth. I can assure you that Carrie has never said anything to that effect, though.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Aug 21, 2011 15:56:48 GMT -5
a) obviously. That's why your need to bring politics into the discussion is beyond my understanding. b) Typo says it never happened, maybe it didn't. I heard this years ago before I was a fan of her, right after Idol I believe. a) It can be related to a political stance. That's why it was brought up. b) If it never happened, then why come in here and make a big ordeal about it? And if you thought that it might've happened, at least bring in the proof to back it up. Google is a good BFF. LMAO. no. Approving of gay fans has absolutely nothing to do with political views. Cut it out, your ignorance is showing again. No one here made a big deal but you. lol again. You asked me why I felt that about Carrie and I gave you what I read. Cut it out, your ignorance is showing again. [2]
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 15:59:23 GMT -5
a) It can be related to a political stance. That's why it was brought up. b) If it never happened, then why come in here and make a big ordeal about it? And if you thought that it might've happened, at least bring in the proof to back it up. Google is a good BFF. LMAO. no. Approving of gay fans has absolutely nothing to do with political views. Cut it out, your ignorance is showing again. No one here made a big deal but you. lol again. You asked me why I felt that about Carrie and I gave you what I read. Cut it out, your ignorance is showing again. [2] LOLk. I'm ignorant. Whatever will get you to stop throwing trash around a good folder in Pulse, and whatever gets you to sleep at night.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Aug 21, 2011 16:03:20 GMT -5
Mandisa said she would never perform at LGBT events due to her beliefs. And then, for whatever reason, people put those words in Carrie's mouth. I can assure you that Carrie has never said anything to that effect, though. This is why you're the best/my favorite Carrie fan and get more respect then.. others. Instead of going off on rampages that require a psycho therapist, you explain things.
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Post by joey2002 on Aug 21, 2011 16:58:53 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Carrie hates gay people. I'm pretty sure Carrie doesn't hate anyone! ;) Even if it's against ones religious beliefs, it doesn't mean that they dislike or don't have friends who are homosexual.
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Post by RobbyFlorida on Aug 21, 2011 18:04:48 GMT -5
For the record, Reba's hairstylist Brett Freedman is gay. Also, she has surrounded herself at one tine or another with gay men in her career. One for sure was her time on Broadway and when she had dancers on tour with her in thew 90's. She also recorded a song in 1994 "She Thinks His Name Was John" dealing with a gay subject AIDS. She felt that it was time that it be addressed in Nashville and she chose to do so in song despite the song's storyline being heterosexual
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Post by musicbuff78 on Aug 21, 2011 19:38:19 GMT -5
For the record, Reba's hairstylist Brett Freedman is gay. Also, she has surrounded herself at one tine or another with gay men in her career. One for sure was her time on Broadway and when she had dancers on tour with her in thew 90's. She also recorded a song in 1994 "She Thinks His Name Was John" dealing with a gay subject AIDS. She felt that it was time that it be addressed in Nashville and she chose to do so in song despite the song's storyline being heterosexual I don't recall AIDS/HIV being a "gay subject". ANYONE can catch it, not just homosexuals. Anyone that calls it a "gay subject" needs an education.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 20:02:22 GMT -5
I think if Carrie was uncomfortable with homosexuals...
1. She wouldn't have done the skit with Carson Presley (from "Queer Eye For the Straight Guy") in her Holiday special. 2. She wouldn't perform Cowboy Casanova with male dancers that are most likely gay. 3. She wouldn't be friends with Ellen DeGeneres and kiss her hello on the cheek when she is on the show. 4. Her favorite artist wouldn't be George Michael, and she wouldn't have cried when she met him.
Just because she hasn't come out and said "I love gays!" doesn't mean she hates them. -____-
She may be very religious, but she is also an educated girl and seems to be open-minded. I don't think Carrie is the type to go around judging others.
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Post by joey2002 on Aug 21, 2011 20:44:52 GMT -5
So Reba's hairstylist is gay... are we in 7th grade? I don't see the big deal as to why that would mean anything.
Seriously, I think there's a big misconception that if people have conservative or religious beliefs, that they must "hate" homosexuals and be homophobic.
Though some conservative or religious folks may not agree with that type of activity—and may let their friend or family member know that—the majority of folks would still love and associate with them as they would any other friend.
In reality, there are a very small number of people who have radical "hatred" toward any type of lifestyle. I doubt you could find many mainstream country music artists now who have those type of feelings.
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Post by drock89 on Aug 21, 2011 22:15:20 GMT -5
Guys, really?? I have just been gloating to the other moderators how well behaved this forum is. Please don't push me past my limits. Some of you are on thin ice.
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