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Post by RockaByeBaby on Feb 19, 2016 16:39:19 GMT -5
She's (finally) been getting a lot of support on social media today.
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Post by wjr15 on Feb 19, 2016 16:44:53 GMT -5
I don't think Kesha will be releasing anymore albums. If she has to release 6 more albums under Sony, and she refuses to work with them because of possible retaliation of no promotion, her music career is pretty much done. I don't think Kesha will be able to pay her way out of a contract where she still has six more albums and I doubt Sony is just gonna let her go. This is sad because she has so much musical potential that hasn't even been touched yet.
Anyone know what the next step will be in this situation? - Can Kesha's lawyers re-file? - Kesha forced to release six more albums with Sony? - Kesha buys out her contract/Sony lets her go? - Kesha's music career is over?
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Post by Envoirment on Feb 19, 2016 16:54:00 GMT -5
#FreeKesha is the top trend WW on twitter.
In regards to Sony, I believe they count re-releases towards an album total. Leona had a 5 album contract with Syco/Sony and left after 4 so I assume they included the re-release of Spirit.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Feb 19, 2016 17:20:12 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson tweeted about it too.
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Post by Dylan :) on Feb 19, 2016 17:21:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 17:21:38 GMT -5
Unsurprising, but still disheartening. Every contract is different - for example, Kelly's contract didn't allow holiday releases, greatest hits, or cover albums to be counted towards its completion, but other contracts do allow for this. I also believe Kelly's was actually a 5-album contract originally, but turned into six because she wanted My December released so much that she offered to not let it count toward her contract. 5 and 7 are the more common numbers though, so Kesha being signed to an 8-album contract still seems unusual. Luke agreeing that she didn't have to work with him to honor the contract took all the wind out of her sails - I didn't know he made that offer, but the judge is right; it did decimate her whole case since her stated priority for breaking her contract was to get away from him. It also just decimated her chosen career, but I guess that's totally okay and legal. The real problem with music contracts in general is that they are based solely on deliverables and not on years, and they never require the label to guarantee a certain level of promotion. Eight albums is a borderline unconscionable amount considering most artists need two-three years to make and promote one, not to mention extended breaks for various reasons. At that rate Kesha would be stuck with Sony for 10 to 20 years on top of the two albums she already gave them. And as stevenisfading pointed out on the last page, Sony isn't required to 'accept' whatever she submits as releasable material or to release it on a fast schedule. I'm sure Kesha would love nothing more at this point than to fix up a bunch of her old demos and release an album each quarter for the next two years, but we know Sony is not about to let her do that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 17:22:43 GMT -5
She is my fave but I honestly didn't think Kelly was going to say anything at all. Just...wow.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Feb 19, 2016 17:22:49 GMT -5
Her issue is that she dragged Sony into the equation. She bit, sh!t, and slammed the door on the hand that fed her when they had no fault in what transpired between her and Gottwald. She was granted the ability to record WITHOUT Lukasz and she still wanted out of the contract. They probably felt that she was using this as a backdoor to get out of her overall contract and they weren't going to even entertain that idea.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 17:31:15 GMT -5
She's done.
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Post by RockaByeBaby on Feb 19, 2016 17:33:45 GMT -5
Her issue is that she dragged Sony into the equation. She bit, sh!t, and slammed the door on the hand that fed her when they had no fault in what transpired between her and Gottwald. She was granted the ability to record WITHOUT Lukasz and she still wanted out of the contract. They probably felt that she was using this as a backdoor to get out of her overall contract and they weren't going to even entertain that idea. Isn't her deal through Kemosabe, and he'd still be profiting from her music (possibly still have a say about her projects at some capacity behind the scenes) even if she wasn't directly working with him? Or was Sony just wanting her to stay under the "bigger" Sony umbrella/perhaps w/ other imprint? She prob doesn't want to be a part of a company "enabling" her alleged abuser/let alone him having anything to do with her career? I don't know, it's a very complicated situation :/
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Post by wavey. on Feb 19, 2016 17:36:00 GMT -5
I feel so sorry for her. I haven't often seen an artist fighting this hard to get released. Actually, I don't know of any other. Maybe JoJo.
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Post by getonthebus on Feb 19, 2016 17:40:00 GMT -5
The reason Sony was involved was that they previously had blocked her from moving to another label under their umbrella, right? It was apparently an abrupt shift from them to say otherwise, and Kesha's lawyer was rightly doubtful of their commitment to supporting her.
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Post by RockaByeBaby on Feb 19, 2016 17:41:31 GMT -5
I feel so sorry for her. I haven't often seen an artist fighting this hard to get released. Actually, I don't know of any other. Maybe JoJo. She just tweeted about this:
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Post by RockaByeBaby on Feb 19, 2016 17:48:22 GMT -5
Gaga:
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Post by Colton on Feb 19, 2016 17:48:14 GMT -5
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Post by Dylan :) on Feb 19, 2016 17:49:35 GMT -5
#FreeKesha has been the #1 trend WW for a few hours now
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Post by Colton on Feb 19, 2016 17:50:22 GMT -5
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Post by Dylan :) on Feb 19, 2016 18:07:43 GMT -5
Waiting for Taylor
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Post by missgenericnickname on Feb 19, 2016 18:27:43 GMT -5
I'm hoping my state protests Sony like my local rap station did with Kevin Gates or else imma have problems
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Post by RockaByeBaby on Feb 19, 2016 19:10:26 GMT -5
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Post by Colton on Feb 19, 2016 19:22:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 19:27:36 GMT -5
Let's all take a moment to appreciate that Dr. Luke probably won't have much of a career either after this, though. I am genuinely surprised that Taylor hasn't said anything, though. It's not like her to miss an opportunity.
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Post by Caviar on Feb 19, 2016 19:34:19 GMT -5
I was rooting for her.
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Post by wjr15 on Feb 19, 2016 19:34:58 GMT -5
Let's all take a moment to appreciate that Dr. Luke probably won't have much of a career either after this, though. I am genuinely surprised that Taylor hasn't said anything, though. It's not like her to miss an opportunity. I hope his career is done. His music isn't even that great anymore. I haven't heard a Dr. Luke production that I like since 2013
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Feb 19, 2016 19:45:05 GMT -5
His career isn't over.
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Post by **βécky**™ on Feb 19, 2016 19:46:07 GMT -5
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Post by Colton on Feb 19, 2016 19:46:38 GMT -5
Let's all take a moment to appreciate that Dr. Luke probably won't have much of a career either after this, though. I am genuinely surprised that Taylor hasn't said anything, though. It's not like her to miss an opportunity. if you think he's over your wrong. musicians (especially up and comers) will still want to work with him despite the kesha mess. this is just how the industry works unfortunately.
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Post by Colton on Feb 19, 2016 20:03:43 GMT -5
Halsey dedicated performance to Kesha
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 20:04:26 GMT -5
Let's all take a moment to appreciate that Dr. Luke probably won't have much of a career either after this, though. I am genuinely surprised that Taylor hasn't said anything, though. It's not like her to miss an opportunity. if you think he's over your wrong. musicians (especially up and comers) will still want to work with him despite the kesha mess. this is just how the industry works unfortunately. I never said his career was over. I said he won't have much of one. The impact of these trials is already pretty apparent. His most recent "high profile" collaboration was, what, Ciara? He may still work with some newer artists and have a sustainable career, but he won't hold the same power he had before.
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Post by ry4n on Feb 19, 2016 20:08:21 GMT -5
"Locked Away" was his last major hit, which wasn't that long ago.
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