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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 17, 2016 14:34:37 GMT -5
Thank you George for taking Broccoli's torch and holding the forum. Honestly, thank you so much.
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Post by MTSChart21 on Nov 17, 2016 14:55:59 GMT -5
45. James Bay - Come and let it go. COME ON* LET IT GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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Post by MTSChart21 on Nov 17, 2016 15:01:43 GMT -5
Thank you George for taking Broccoli's torch and holding the forum. Honestly, thank you so much. Well actually, he's not holding the forum. He's keeping the Y-E predictions alive and well. But yeah, I get what you mean  --- Anyways... George, as others have said, you did a great job with the predictions this year. It must be really time-consuming to do the points for all 100 songs. Let's hope for a great year of both music and predicting (and also life in general) in 2017!  |
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Post by Xaprios on Nov 17, 2016 15:06:05 GMT -5
I joined Pulse in May. I wasn't here at the beginning of the year, so I don't know what normally goes on. What happens after a year wraps up? I'm guessing the points reset. The points going towards this year's chart are gathered from all the points songs got from the first chart week of December 2015 to the last week of this month. Next year's chart will do the same but instead combine all the points from the first week of December 2016 until the last week of November 2017 and so on :) Why do they stop in November and not in December? |
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Post by scrohr424 on Nov 17, 2016 16:26:07 GMT -5
The points going towards this year's chart are gathered from all the points songs got from the first chart week of December 2015 to the last week of this month. Next year's chart will do the same but instead combine all the points from the first week of December 2016 until the last week of November 2017 and so on :) Why do they stop in November and not in December? On Wikipedia, it says: "Billboard's "chart year" runs from the first Billboard "week" of December to the final week in November, but because the Billboard week is dated in advance of publication, the last calendar week for which sales are counted is usually the third week in November. This altered calendar allows for Billboard to calculate year-end charts and release them in time for its final print issue in the last week of December." Hope this answers your question. |
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Post by inverse on Nov 17, 2016 17:06:08 GMT -5
Heh, Let It Go and Tiimmy Turner are opposite chart runs. One had 34 peak 16 weeks, the other 16 peak and 34 weeks!
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Post by mamooshka on Nov 19, 2016 10:17:49 GMT -5
I see that Bey's Sorry made the YE100, but what happened to Formation?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 11:23:03 GMT -5
I see that Bey's Sorry made the YE100, but what happened to Formation? It flopped. |
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Post by lyhom on Nov 19, 2016 11:27:12 GMT -5
I see that Bey's Sorry made the YE100, but what happened to Formation? It flopped. lol |
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Post by georgetherunner314 on Nov 19, 2016 16:27:13 GMT -5
I see that Bey's Sorry made the YE100, but what happened to Formation? Lol, I've got Formation at #201 |
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Post by mamooshka on Nov 19, 2016 17:07:09 GMT -5
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Post by 85la on Nov 19, 2016 17:39:13 GMT -5
Thanks George for putting forth all the time and energy into this; I don't even have the patience to do it for one week!!
The one wild card in all of this though is if the formula change early in the year arbitrarily increased or decreased the baseline points a lot for all songs going forward and if they don't adjust for this. This has happened several times in the past ten or so years, I remember most noticeably in 2007, where mid-year they basically reduced the sales component by half, so many songs that charted mainly towards the end of that year ended up a lot lower on the year-end list than you would have thought.
If something like this happens this year, it could potentially cost Bieber one or both of the top two spots (or maintain his hold on them if the change works in his favor), plus various other shake-ups, though maybe not a whole lot because the formula change came just a couple months into the chart year, wasn't it around January?
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Post by georgetherunner314 on Nov 19, 2016 17:51:38 GMT -5
Thanks George for putting forth all the time and energy into this; I don't even have the patience to do it for one week!! The one wild card in all of this though is if the formula change early in the year arbitrarily increased or decreased the baseline points a lot for all songs going forward and if they don't adjust for this. This has happened several times in the past ten or so years, I remember most noticeably in 2007, where mid-year they basically reduced the sales component by half, so many songs that charted mainly towards the end of that year ended up a lot lower on the year-end list than you would have thought. If something like this happens this year, it could potentially cost Bieber one or both of the top two spots (or maintain his hold on them if the change works in his favor), plus various other shake-ups, though maybe not a whole lot because the formula change came just a couple months into the chart year, wasn't it around January? The formula was changed (to decrease the impact of streams) after the first 10 weeks of the chart tracking year had passed, so it shouldn't affect the year-end results as much as that mid-year alteration. |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 21, 2016 17:08:30 GMT -5
Black Beatles has finally grown on me. It's actually one of the better Hip-Hop hits we've got this year, along with Broccoli.
I have a slight feeling Closer is not finished, it's still gaining and The Chainsmokers just performed at the AMA's. I think it may retake #1 from BB next week, and also may reign for weeks after that. I hope so. I don't hate BB, but I find Closer more enjoyable and would like the song to rank high on 2017's YE list. Things are getting interesting....
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Post by tekkenguy on Nov 21, 2016 20:35:00 GMT -5
Black Beatles has finally grown on me. It's actually one of the better Hip-Hop hits we've got this year, along with Broccoli. I have a slight feeling Closer is not finished, it's still gaining and The Chainsmokers just performed at the AMA's. I think it may retake #1 from BB next week, and also may reign for weeks after that. I hope so. I don't hate BB, but I find Closer more enjoyable and would like the song to rank high on 2017's YE list. Things are getting interesting.... Yeah no. BB's streaming is too massive for Closer to go back. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 0:08:09 GMT -5
HEY EVERYONE! I HAVE A REQUEST! PLEASE START BUYING THIS SONG OR STREAMING IT NONSTOP! I DO NOT WANT IT CAUGHT IN BETWEEN YEARS AND I WANT IT TO MAKE 2017 YEAR END LIST! THANK YOU!
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Post by Mike is BAD on Nov 22, 2016 7:07:27 GMT -5
HEY EVERYONE! I HAVE A REQUEST! PLEASE START BUYING THIS SONG OR STREAMING IT NONSTOP! I DO NOT WANT IT CAUGHT IN BETWEEN YEARS AND I WANT IT TO MAKE 2017 YEAR END LIST! THANK YOU! I already bought it |
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Post by Sambalada on Nov 22, 2016 7:11:01 GMT -5
I thought you didn't have a credit card...?
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Post by Mike is BAD on Nov 22, 2016 7:15:01 GMT -5
I thought you didn't have a credit card...? I have gift card though |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 22, 2016 9:04:05 GMT -5
HEY EVERYONE! I HAVE A REQUEST! PLEASE START BUYING THIS SONG OR STREAMING IT NONSTOP! I DO NOT WANT IT CAUGHT IN BETWEEN YEARS AND I WANT IT TO MAKE 2017 YEAR END LIST! THANK YOU! Lmao. Who buys music anymore? |
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Post by bluepotato on Nov 22, 2016 10:30:02 GMT -5
Predictions for songs currently in danger of getting stuck between years:
The greatest:didn't have too many weeks taken from it and is still gaining,so if it peaks late and has decent longevity (both are common for sia songs) it should make it. Peak would probably be 15-11 imo.
Ooouuu:since vine hits almost never last more than 20 weeks and this song isn't quite gaining,it looks like it'll pull a blame.
Blue ain't your color:country is practically banned from the year end at this point,and a song with 9 wasted weeks probably won't be an exception.
Chill bill:my guess is it would last 27-30 weeks,peak in top 15,and would make the 80's on the year end.
Do you mind:will make top 20 in a couple of weeks and easily make year end.
In the name of love:if it's anything like the other world hits that come late to the USA,it should start sinking pretty soon.
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Post by atg on Nov 22, 2016 10:35:15 GMT -5
Do you mind:will make top 20 in a couple of weeks and easily make year end. Yesss. Hopefully it makes it. Best song on major key |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 11:58:16 GMT -5
Hey everyone I got good news. This may be the future channel that could start doing Weekly Hot 100 videos along with many more. I know many of you cant stand Jillboard, so I guess this is it.
It all started with BillBoardGoddess. then 5thCent took over. then HrChart took over. And chance may be Mark Oswalt takes over very soon too. Even commented saying he should do Weekly Hot 100 videos. Idk.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Nov 22, 2016 12:09:52 GMT -5
Hey everyone I got good news. This may be the future channel that could start doing Weekly Hot 100 videos along with many more. I know many of you cant stand Jillboard, so I guess this is it. FUCKING TRUE Thnx |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 12:20:23 GMT -5
Trying to convince Mark Oswalt to do Weekly Hot 100s, he said he thought about it but recommended us to Testee top 50. Testee does top 50 not top 100 so it is boring. I hope my convincing works. You guys can help me convince him. If you watch the video and see the comments you can see me asking him to do it, and then he replied too, etc.
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Post by georgetherunner314 on Nov 22, 2016 17:09:39 GMT -5
I guess we're using this thread for the following year, then. Just something I wanted to say, many of the posts here appear to be more fit for the weekly hot 100 threads so it'd be great for you guys to go there so that this thread won't become as "full." Anyway, here's the 1st week chart! I realize the new header layout kinda looks similar to MTS's Kworb updates but I couldn't find any other way to make it look as good imo. I've decided to use the (Sales/9.5 + Airplay/10500 + Streams/1200) formula for now, so in order to compare between this year and the last you'll have to multiply these numbers by ~1.028. This makes the approximate cutoff 147.6k - I'll be calling it the "150k club" this year.    |
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Post by chicken077 on Nov 22, 2016 18:21:55 GMT -5
Lol rip, doesn't mean much but PPAP is technically the #93 song of 2017 so far...
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Post by Mike is BAD on Nov 22, 2016 20:03:11 GMT -5
Yessssssssss this is gonna be lit me VS George for 2017 (Doing predictions now)
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Post by MTSChart21 on Nov 22, 2016 20:50:36 GMT -5
Yessssssssss this is gonna be lit me VS George for 2017 (Doing predictions now) I'm also doing 2017 year-end predictions but I will probably only post mine at the end of the 2017 tracking year, and maybe a couple different times in between now and then. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 20:53:05 GMT -5
You guys should post them. We can compare predictions.
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