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Post by Lukas on Oct 31, 2019 14:54:46 GMT -5
Could Hot make 2020 YE? I really hope it does if it can't make it this year.
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Post by nathanalbright on Oct 31, 2019 17:11:14 GMT -5
Could Hot make 2020 YE? I really hope it does if it can't make it this year. It's all about longevity at that point; can it stay on long enough to beat the 20-50 rule and get enough points in 2020 to avoid being caught between years a la "You Say?" |
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Post by 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 on Oct 31, 2019 18:38:54 GMT -5
and Panic!, Gaga, and Bradley Cooper in the top 20 Not to mention Brendon Urie having three year end entries, THREE!Weird, but very happy for Mr. Urie! To get a Top 5 hit in "High Hopes" and almost getting that #1 with Taylor Swift in "ME!" (Blocking "ME!" at #1 is the only thing I hate off "Old Town Road"). Don't forget also a decent-sized hit in "Hey Look Ma, I Made It" |
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Post by nathanalbright on Oct 31, 2019 18:43:56 GMT -5
Not to mention Brendon Urie having three year end entries, THREE!Weird, but very happy for Mr. Urie! To get a Top 5 hit in "High Hopes" and almost getting that #1 with Taylor Swift in "ME!" (Blocking "ME!" at #1 is the only thing I hate off "Old Town Road"). Don't forget also a decent-sized hit in "Hey Look Ma, I Made It" I can't say that these are the songs I wanted to keep Panic At The Disco! from being seen as a one-hit wonder outfit (I would have preferred to see "9 In The Afternoon" have become a big pop smash), but it is noteworthy nonetheless. |
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Post by HeyHeyHey on Oct 31, 2019 20:13:36 GMT -5
I wonder if we can better predict the Year End Hot 100 by looking at the top songs of the decade list. Especially for instances where some songs may be close to each other and in the same genre.
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Post by nathanalbright on Oct 31, 2019 20:19:09 GMT -5
I wonder if we can better predict the Year End Hot 100 by looking at the top songs of the decade list. Especially for instances where some songs may be close to each other and in the same genre. They use different methodologies. The Songs of the Decade are based on an inverse-chart position formula but the end of year charts are done on a points basis. |
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Post by mikerivera on Oct 31, 2019 22:35:29 GMT -5
I wonder if we can better predict the Year End Hot 100 by looking at the top songs of the decade list. Especially for instances where some songs may be close to each other and in the same genre. They use different methodologies. The Songs of the Decade are based on an inverse-chart position formula but the end of year charts are done on a points basis. This is why I’m creating a point-based decade list. There are times when the inverse formula that Billboard uses contradicts their own year end lists, like E.T. being ahead of Firework |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 1, 2019 1:59:12 GMT -5
I find it immensely weird that Frank Ocean, one of the biggest R&B names of the decade, didn't get a year-end single until Slide in 2017. I know 2012 was a different time but even good kid maad city got Swimming Pools to land on the year-end list for 2013.
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Post by 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 on Nov 1, 2019 4:08:38 GMT -5
Weird, but very happy for Mr. Urie! To get a Top 5 hit in "High Hopes" and almost getting that #1 with Taylor Swift in "ME!" (Blocking "ME!" at #1 is the only thing I hate off "Old Town Road"). Don't forget also a decent-sized hit in "Hey Look Ma, I Made It" I can't say that these are the songs I wanted to keep Panic At The Disco! from being seen as a one-hit wonder outfit (I would have preferred to see "9 In The Afternoon" have become a big pop smash), but it is noteworthy nonetheless. I would've preferred to see any of P!ATD's singles to be a hit before "High Hopes" did. Best could've been "This Is Gospel", "Victorious", or "Say Amen", although the latter sounds more of "Death Of A Bachelor" than "Pray For The Wicked", so I guess "High Hopes" was the right song to propel P!ATD back to the charts. |
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 1, 2019 7:34:28 GMT -5
My predictions for the top 100 of 2019, inclusive of the November 2, 2019 chart:
My belief is there are only 3 more weeks that will be included in the list. Still enough time for Mariah Carey to be squeezed out. I thought that would have happened months ago.
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 1, 2019 13:36:41 GMT -5
Of course, it's possible that if Christmas music season starts early enough that Mariah could jump on the charts again before the chart year is out....
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 1, 2019 14:40:55 GMT -5
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 1, 2019 15:03:33 GMT -5
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Post by inverse on Nov 1, 2019 15:13:41 GMT -5
They use different methodologies. The Songs of the Decade are based on an inverse-chart position formula but the end of year charts are done on a points basis. This is why I’m creating a point-based decade list. There are times when the inverse formula that Billboard uses contradicts their own year end lists, like E.T. being ahead of Firework Never liked the decade end lists tbh. I get why they do the inverse formula for the all time ones because if you used real points songs from the 1960's would never have any chance of making the lists but for a list within a single decade no idea why you wouldn't just use real points like there is no reason Before He Cheats shouldn't have made the 2000s list |
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Post by samo🦕 on Nov 1, 2019 15:50:41 GMT -5
Never liked the decade end lists tbh. I get why they do the inverse formula for the all time ones because if you used real points songs from the 1960's would never have any chance of making the lists but for a list within a single decade no idea why you wouldn't just use real points like there is no reason Before He Cheats shouldn't have made the 2000s list I'm not an expert on these things, but would The Sweet Escape have had a better chance of making the 2000s decade end list? (it was #3 in 2007, but missed the top 100 entirely iirc) |
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Post by tallen2001 on Nov 1, 2019 19:40:27 GMT -5
I wonder if Hot could actually slip in. The remix with Travis came out and the music video for the remix dropped.
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Post by Lukas on Nov 1, 2019 20:01:34 GMT -5
Never liked the decade end lists tbh. I get why they do the inverse formula for the all time ones because if you used real points songs from the 1960's would never have any chance of making the lists but for a list within a single decade no idea why you wouldn't just use real points like there is no reason Before He Cheats shouldn't have made the 2000s list I'm not an expert on these things, but would The Sweet Escape have had a better chance of making the 2000s decade end list? (it was #3 in 2007, but missed the top 100 entirely iirc) It would've been around 50 on the list with rp. |
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Post by Lukas on Nov 1, 2019 20:05:46 GMT -5
Also, just out of plain curiosity, would anyone here be interested in helping me compile accurate 2000s year end lists with real points?
Maybe we could rewrite Billboard's 2000's decade end lists by using real points.
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Post by sirskimask on Nov 1, 2019 22:22:23 GMT -5
Super early prediction for current songs that will make the 2020 YE:
Someone You Loved
Truth Hurts
Senorita
Circles
No Guidance
HIGHEST IN THE ROOM
10,000 Hours
Memories
Bandit
Beautiful People
Good As Hell
Lose You To Love Me
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Dance Monkey
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Post by GPMB on Nov 1, 2019 22:40:17 GMT -5
Lalala won't be able to make the year end, but I wonder if the CRJ/Enrique remix will have any impact on its chart performance in the next few weeks
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 2, 2019 0:04:23 GMT -5
Lalala won't be able to make the year end, but I wonder if the CRJ/Enrique remix will have any impact on its chart performance in the next few weeks I guess we'll see if 2019 Enrique and Carly have any pull on pop radio. I must admit I'm lowkey pretty fond of "Lalala" myself. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 2, 2019 4:39:16 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the biggest songs to peak at #11 and #12 are?
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Post by spicymapping on Nov 2, 2019 9:02:42 GMT -5
I'd assume SYWLG would be for #11
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Post by mikerivera on Nov 2, 2019 9:28:47 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the biggest songs to peak at #11 and #12 are? Say You Won’t Let Go for #11, and Redbone for #12. And yes, that is across the entire decade |
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Post by junkie on Nov 2, 2019 10:58:04 GMT -5
Are we all 100% sure that EARFQUAKE won't make the year end list? Tyler is such a talented artist and it would suck to just barely miss his chance at getting an actual hit after a whole decade of making music
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 11:29:52 GMT -5
Are we all 100% sure that EARFQUAKE won't make the year end list? Tyler is such a talented artist and it would suck to just barely miss his chance at getting an actual hit after a whole decade of making music Yeah it is nowhere close to the cutoff in anyone's predictions. |
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Post by GPMB on Nov 2, 2019 11:55:43 GMT -5
if Wild Things by Alessia Cara had the same chart run that did it did but in this year instead of 2016, it would have had a serious shot at making the 2019 YE
it peaked at #50 and had 20 weeks
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 12:00:09 GMT -5
if Wild Things by Alessia Cara had the same chart run that did it did but in this year instead of 2016, it would have had a serious shot at making the 2019 YE it peaked at #50 and had 20 weeks Same could be said with Sit Next To Me in 2018, which had 171K points in fhas' year end predictions chart. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 12:43:52 GMT -5
if Wild Things by Alessia Cara had the same chart run that did it did but in this year instead of 2016, it would have had a serious shot at making the 2019 YE it peaked at #50 and had 20 weeks Same could be said with Sit Next To Me in 2018, which had 171K points in fhas' year end predictions chart. Sit Next To Me deserved so much more, such a great song. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 12:46:47 GMT -5
Super early prediction for current songs that will make the 2020 YE: Someone You Loved Truth Hurts Senorita Circles No Guidance HIGHEST IN THE ROOM 10,000 Hours Memories Bandit Beautiful People Good As Hell Lose You To Love Me On Chill Hot Dance Monkey Even Though I'm Leaving is probably a toss-up, I'd assume (yeah, I'm a total stan for that song). |
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