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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 3:30:57 GMT -5
but the gap between #1 and #2 is too close.
Are you sure about it?
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Post by #Joseph.T on Jan 15, 2014 3:40:33 GMT -5
but the gap between #1 and #2 is too close. Are you sure about it? ya , only 0.7% Timber =225,000/12 + 160,778,000/7500 + 3,667,427/450 =48336.91 Counting Stars =180,000/12 + 190,365,000/7500 + 3,421,785/450 =47985.97 sales/airplay/streaming=12/7500/450 airplay data that I used is overall AI I'm confusing the formula for airplay is overall AI or not |
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Post by Xedretinz Lododnz on Jan 15, 2014 6:36:12 GMT -5
you can check here this week's streaming numbers on spotify.... charts.spotify.com/Here's the top 10 1. Say Something 2. Dark Horse 3. Timber 4. Counting Stars 5. Royals 6. The Monster 7. Team 8. Let Her Go 9. Pompeii 10. Wake Me Up |
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Post by #Joseph.T on Jan 15, 2014 6:41:06 GMT -5
I knew this and posted on page 5 |
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Post by Xedretinz Lododnz on Jan 15, 2014 6:44:12 GMT -5
I knew this and posted on page 5 sorry... i didn't read it |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 7:13:31 GMT -5
but the gap between #1 and #2 is too close. Are you sure about it? ya , only 0.7% Timber =225,000/12 + 160,778,000/7500 + 3,667,427/450 =48336.91 Counting Stars =180,000/12 + 190,365,000/7500 + 3,421,785/450 =47985.97 sales/airplay/streaming=12/7500/450 airplay data that I used is overall AI I'm confusing the formula for airplay is overall AI or not You have to multiply Mediabase airplay numbers by around 0.75 to get BDS. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 7:17:22 GMT -5
ya , only 0.7% Timber =225,000/12 + 160,778,000/7500 + 3,667,427/450 =48336.91 Counting Stars =180,000/12 + 190,365,000/7500 + 3,421,785/450 =47985.97 sales/airplay/streaming=12/7500/450 airplay data that I used is overall AI I'm confusing the formula for airplay is overall AI or not You have to multiply Mediabase airplay numbers by around 0.75 to get BDS. you mean there may be a chance for CS to hit #1??? |
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Post by #Joseph.T on Jan 15, 2014 7:18:32 GMT -5
1. EMINEM - The Monster f/Rihanna: 190.368 (- 0.369)
2. ONEREPUBLIC - Counting Stars: 190.334 (- 0.031)
3. PITBULL - Timber f/Ke$ha: 163.604 (+ 2.826)
4. IMAGINE DRAGONS - Demons: 136.806 (- 3.547)
5. AVICII - Wake Me Up: 135.387 (- 2.453)
6. LORDE - Royals: 132.793 (- 0.892)
7. DRAKE - Hold On We're, Going Home: 115.357 (- 1.301)
8. PASSENGER - Let Her Go: 109.375 (+ 0.722)
9. ELLIE GOULDING - Burn: 97.647 (+ 1.072)
10. ZEDD - Stay The Night f/H. Williams: 94.746 (- 0.272)
11. LORDE - Team: 93.410 (+ 1.871)
12. LADY GAGA - Do What U Want f/R. Kelly: 92.025 (+ 1.064)
13. A GREAT BIG WORLD - Say Something w/C. Aguilera: 90.974 (+ 1.704)
14. ONE DIRECTION - Story Of My Life: 89.714 (+ 2.617)
15. KATY PERRY - Dark Horse: 87.930 (+ 3.730)
16. KATY PERRY - Roar: 81.755 (- 0.761)
17. NEIGHBOURHOOD - Sweater Weather: 74.902 (+ 0.044)
18. BASTILLE - Pompeii: 73.131 (+ 0.775)
19. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - White Walls f/ScHoolboy Q: 69.738 (- 0.722)
20. FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Stay: 66.038 (- 0.710)
ZAC BROWN BAND - Sweet Annie: 64.786 (- 0.194)
THE BAND PERRY - Don't Let Me Be Lonely: 63.722 (+ 0.044)
LUKE BRYAN - Drink A Beer: 58.864 (+ 0.620)
DAVID NAIL - Whatever She's Got: 58.217 (+ 0.852)
DARIUS RUCKER - Radio: 57.940 (- 1.637)
ERIC PASLAY - Friday Night: 57.851 (+ 0.309)
COLE SWINDELL - Chillin' It: 56.634 (+ 0.612)
KID INK - Show Me f/Chris Brown: 54.838 (+ 1.198)
JASON ALDEAN - When She Says Baby: 48.653 (+ 0.702)
BEYONCÉ - Drunk In Love f/Jay Z: 49.496 (+ 1.775)
CASSADEE POPE - Wasting All These Tears: 47.055 (+ 0.220)
LADY ANTEBELLUM - Compass: 42.523 (+ 0.371)
JOHN NEWMAN - Love Me Again: 38.348 (+ 0.876)
BRUNO MARS - Young Girls: 37.334 (+ 0.786)
BEYONCE - XO: 36.968 (+ 0.450)
DRAKE - The Language: 28.918 (+ 0.128)
FRAY - Love Don't Die: 24.195 (+ 0.527)
JASON DERULO - Talk Dirty f/2 Chainz: 23.471 (+ 1.796)
DEMI LOVATO - Neon Lights: 19.035 (+ 0.768)
MILEY CYRUS - Adore You: 17.277 (+ 0.779)
AVICII - Hey Brother: 16.182 (+ 0.318)
SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA - Can't Remember To Forget You: 13.464 (+ 1.164)
IMAGINE DRAGONS - On Top Of The World: 4.720 (+ 0.042)
NEON TREES - Sleeping With A Friend: 3.317 (+ 0.545)
FOSTER THE PEOPLE - Coming Of Age: 3.174 (+ 0.923)
PHARRELL WILLIAMS - Happy: 2.971
ENRIQUE IGLESIAS - I'm A Freak f/Pitbull: 2.919
JAMIE LYNN SPEARS - How Could I Want More: 1.166
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Post by #Joseph.T on Jan 15, 2014 7:21:59 GMT -5
ya , only 0.7% Timber =225,000/12 + 160,778,000/7500 + 3,667,427/450 =48336.91 Counting Stars =180,000/12 + 190,365,000/7500 + 3,421,785/450 =47985.97 sales/airplay/streaming=12/7500/450 airplay data that I used is overall AI I'm confusing the formula for airplay is overall AI or not You have to multiply Mediabase airplay numbers by around 0.75 to get BDS. after I did it again Timber =42977.64 Counting Stars =41640.47 gap=3.21% |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 7:22:06 GMT -5
I don't know why LET HER GO is slaying so slowly!It is a global monster hit.but I don't think it will reach even top3 in hot 100...
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Post by #Joseph.T on Jan 15, 2014 7:23:31 GMT -5
I don't know why LET HER GO is slaying so slowly!It is a global monster hit.but I don't think it will reach even top3 in hot 100... never mind .It's #1 in my country  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 7:25:20 GMT -5
I don't know why LET HER GO is slaying so slowly!It is a global monster hit.but I don't think it will reach even top3 in hot 100... never mind .It's #1 in my country It went #1 everywhere!(but in UK it went #2.) It deserves much more than this in US... |
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Post by Xedretinz Lododnz on Jan 15, 2014 7:29:43 GMT -5
1. EMINEM - The Monster f/Rihanna: 190.368 (- 0.369) 2. ONEREPUBLIC - Counting Stars: 190.334 (- 0.031) 3. PITBULL - Timber f/Ke$ha: 163.604 (+ 2.826)4. IMAGINE DRAGONS - Demons: 136.806 (- 3.547) 5. AVICII - Wake Me Up: 135.387 (- 2.453) 6. LORDE - Royals: 132.793 (- 0.892) 7. DRAKE - Hold On We're, Going Home: 115.357 (- 1.301) 8. PASSENGER - Let Her Go: 109.375 (+ 0.722) 9. ELLIE GOULDING - Burn: 97.647 (+ 1.072)10. ZEDD - Stay The Night f/H. Williams: 94.746 (- 0.272) 11. LORDE - Team: 93.410 (+ 1.871)
12. LADY GAGA - Do What U Want f/R. Kelly: 92.025 (+ 1.064)
13. A GREAT BIG WORLD - Say Something w/C. Aguilera: 90.974 (+ 1.704)
14. ONE DIRECTION - Story Of My Life: 89.714 (+ 2.617)
15. KATY PERRY - Dark Horse: 87.930 (+ 3.730)16. KATY PERRY - Roar: 81.755 (- 0.761) 17. NEIGHBOURHOOD - Sweater Weather: 74.902 (+ 0.044) 18. BASTILLE - Pompeii: 73.131 (+ 0.775) 19. MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - White Walls f/ScHoolboy Q: 69.738 (- 0.722) 20. FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Stay: 66.038 (- 0.710) ZAC BROWN BAND - Sweet Annie: 64.786 (- 0.194) THE BAND PERRY - Don't Let Me Be Lonely: 63.722 (+ 0.044) LUKE BRYAN - Drink A Beer: 58.864 (+ 0.620) DAVID NAIL - Whatever She's Got: 58.217 (+ 0.852) DARIUS RUCKER - Radio: 57.940 (- 1.637) ERIC PASLAY - Friday Night: 57.851 (+ 0.309) COLE SWINDELL - Chillin' It: 56.634 (+ 0.612) KID INK - Show Me f/Chris Brown: 54.838 (+ 1.198)JASON ALDEAN - When She Says Baby: 48.653 (+ 0.702) BEYONCÉ - Drunk In Love f/Jay Z: 49.496 (+ 1.775)CASSADEE POPE - Wasting All These Tears: 47.055 (+ 0.220) LADY ANTEBELLUM - Compass: 42.523 (+ 0.371) JOHN NEWMAN - Love Me Again: 38.348 (+ 0.876) BRUNO MARS - Young Girls: 37.334 (+ 0.786) BEYONCE - XO: 36.968 (+ 0.450) DRAKE - The Language: 28.918 (+ 0.128) FRAY - Love Don't Die: 24.195 (+ 0.527) JASON DERULO - Talk Dirty f/2 Chainz: 23.471 (+ 1.796)DEMI LOVATO - Neon Lights: 19.035 (+ 0.768) MILEY CYRUS - Adore You: 17.277 (+ 0.779) AVICII - Hey Brother: 16.182 (+ 0.318) SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA - Can't Remember To Forget You: 13.464 (+ 1.164)IMAGINE DRAGONS - On Top Of The World: 4.720 (+ 0.042) NEON TREES - Sleeping With A Friend: 3.317 (+ 0.545) FOSTER THE PEOPLE - Coming Of Age: 3.174 (+ 0.923) PHARRELL WILLIAMS - Happy: 2.971 ENRIQUE IGLESIAS - I'm A Freak f/Pitbull: 2.919 JAMIE LYNN SPEARS - How Could I Want More: 1.166 ugh.... Counting Stars still stuck @ no.2 but I'm hoping it'll reach no.1 on Radio Songs anyway, look at Dark Horse getting huge updates far away from the runner up gainer.... :) another Katy no.1 is coming |
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Post by surfy on Jan 15, 2014 8:14:29 GMT -5
That gap between CS and TM is going to make me mad!!! :(
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Post by Duca on Jan 15, 2014 8:17:37 GMT -5
Awful second day update for CRTFY.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 15, 2014 8:49:21 GMT -5
Things may be different in BDS numbers, so it's not out of the realm of possibility for CS to be No. 1 on airplay this week.
RE the Shakira/RiRi collabo- that's not a great-post-promo showing, but it is rather early.
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Post by felipe on Jan 15, 2014 10:33:24 GMT -5
^Specifics are not known, there's some sort of deal that Clear Channel works out with the record label. Billboard often describes it as Clear Channel promotion, and the company flexing its "considerable muscle." It made a lot of sense for something like Madonna's "Give Me All Your Luvin'," as it was leading up to the Super Bowl halftime show. So, it made it an event weekend for the track. Of course, it didn't sustain very long after that. It's a great way to get initial exposure for a track. But does that paid airplay count for Billboard points? |
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Post by Daniel Collins on Jan 15, 2014 11:14:10 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/news/5869748/frozen-chills-for-second-week-at-no-1-on-billboard-200Over on the Digital Songs chart, Katy Perry trots up three slots to No. 1 with "Dark Horse," featuring Juicy J, selling 243,000 downloads for the week (up 6%). The single, which is the third release from her "PRISM" album, is making great gains at radio. This week, it climbs 15-11 on the Pop Songs airplay chart (known as Mainstream Top 40 on Billboard.biz). Perry's previous single, the ballad "Unconditionally," topped out at No. 15 on the Digital Songs chart. Last week's leader, Pitbull's "Timber," featuring Ke$ha, drops to No. 2 with 227,000 (down 25%). A Great Big World & Christina Aguilera's "Say Something" falls 2-3 with 218,000 (down 10%). OneRepublic's "Counting Stars" slips 3-4 with 185,000 (down 22%). Eminem's "The Monster," featuring Rihanna, is stationary at No. 5 with 162,000 (down 27%). Passenger's "Let Her Go" is also a non-mover at No. 6 with 146,000 (down 21%). Aloe Blacc's "The Man" re-enters the chart at No. 7 with 139,000 (up 191%) thanks to the song's use in TV commercials for Beats by Dre. The spots, which have been airing since November, have recently earned huge exposure during the NFL playoffs. The first Beats commercial with "The Man" featured basketball player Kevin Garnett. Then, a second clip, starring San Francisco 49ers' quarterback Colin Kaepernick, began running in December. The latter spot was widely seen during the 49ers' Jan. 12 gameagainst the Carolina Panthers, and is the catalyst for "The Man's" sales gain this week. Lorde's "Team" hits the top 10 for the first time, rising 13-8 with 125,000 (up 6%), and Bastille's"Pompeii" also reaches the top 10, rising 14-9 with 124,000 (up 9%). Idina Menzel, who voices one of the lead characters in Disney's "Frozen" film, hits a new high, as her version of the movie's "Let It Go" climbs 12-10 with 118,000 (down 9%). Another rendition of the song, by Demi Lovato, slides 25-36 with54,000 (down 31%). Menzel's performance of the song is the one featured in the movie, while Lovato's take plays over the film's closing credits.
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Post by Gary on Jan 15, 2014 11:18:47 GMT -5
^Specifics are not known, there's some sort of deal that Clear Channel works out with the record label. Billboard often describes it as Clear Channel promotion, and the company flexing its "considerable muscle." It made a lot of sense for something like Madonna's "Give Me All Your Luvin'," as it was leading up to the Super Bowl halftime show. So, it made it an event weekend for the track. Of course, it didn't sustain very long after that. It's a great way to get initial exposure for a track. But does that paid airplay count for Billboard points? It has before. That Madonna song is a good example. The purchased airplay combined with the Super Bowl sent the song into the top 10, once the paid deal was over though, so was the chart run of the song (for the most part) This practice tells me that with the right deal and enough money, an artist could in theory purchase a #1 song |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 11:18:50 GMT -5
good numbers for Katy!
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Post by Rocky on Jan 15, 2014 11:26:44 GMT -5
1. Dark Horse - Katy Perry feat. Juicy J (243,000 | 1,712,000)
2. Timber - Pitbull feat. Ke$ha (227,000 | 2,507,000)
3. Say Something - A Great Big World & Christina Aguilera (218,000 | 2,085,000) *2M
4. One Republic - Counting Stars (185,000 | 3,415,000)
5. The Monster - Eminem feat. Rihanna (162,000 | 2,607,000)
6. Let Her Go - Passenger (146,000 | 2,497,000)
7. The Man - Aloe Blacc (139,000 | )
8. Team - Lorde (125,000 | )
9. Pompeii - Bastille (124,000 | )
10. Let It Go - Indina Menzel (118,000 | )
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Post by Caviar on Jan 15, 2014 11:41:00 GMT -5
Crazy DH is already at 1.7 million and it's just starting its run! :O
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jan 15, 2014 11:41:51 GMT -5
But does that paid airplay count for Billboard points? It has before. That Madonna song is a good example. The purchased airplay combined with the Super Bowl sent the song into the top 10, once the paid deal was over though, so was the chart run of the song (for the most part) This practice tells me that with the right deal and enough money, an artist could in theory purchase a #1 song Billboard should take the CC deals out of the chart equation....and airplay needs to be further diminished as a measure of popularity for the HOT 100. Airplay should be treated like a TV ad campaign. It counts in so much as it helps songs sell or get user generated plays on streaming and ondemand services. |
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Post by Daniel Collins on Jan 15, 2014 11:43:58 GMT -5
My prediction:
1. Timber
2. Counting Stars
3. Dark Horse
4. The Monster
5. Say Something
6. Royals
7. Let Her Go
8. Wake Me Up!
9. Demons
10. Team
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Post by allow that on Jan 15, 2014 11:48:04 GMT -5
Crazy DH is already at 1.7 million and it's just starting its run! :O Early contender for #1 single of 2014 on the year-end chart? |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 15, 2014 11:57:58 GMT -5
GMAYL's airplay promo was for three days of the five days of airplay it had for its debut week (it entered the airplay chart at No. 28). It then ranked No. 59 in airplay for its first full week, with 20 million audience, and then dipped to No. 63, and then dropped off.
Other acts that have had airplay promos (whether for one format or multiple ones) include Rihanna, Mariah Carey, Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Jennifer Lopez, Enrique Iglesias, Celine Dion, Prince, etc. It's becoming common practice for big acts. For all we know, it may have happened in the past, too, but maybe to a lesser extent.
And, yah, "Dark Horse" is performing exceptionally.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Jan 15, 2014 12:30:04 GMT -5
The people behind 'Dark Horse' are definitely using some sort of payola, IMO.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jan 15, 2014 12:33:59 GMT -5
The people behind 'Dark Horse' are definitely using some sort of payola, IMO. If they're using payola on DH, they've been doing the same for about 10 singles in a row.. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 15, 2014 12:35:01 GMT -5
Yah- clearly the music-buying public likes DH, as well as radio listeners.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jan 15, 2014 12:37:51 GMT -5
Yah- clearly the music-buying public likes DH, as well as radio listeners. #1 Digital, #1 Shazam, #2 Spotify. The ears don't lie! |
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