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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 19:44:53 GMT -5
Toxic was a showstopper. What a great song. Thank u Cathy Dennis! I think I was even sadder when Kylie turned it down than when Hillary lost....
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Dec 6, 2016 19:59:20 GMT -5
That interview was EXCELLENT. Probably my favorite of hers, actually.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Dec 8, 2016 2:47:08 GMT -5
Carpool Karaoke is here!
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Post by Unhinged on Dec 8, 2016 9:18:09 GMT -5
^Loved it! She's so much fun! Also loved hearing about her and Michael Jackson. I want more details Madonna! ;)
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Dec 8, 2016 10:24:15 GMT -5
^Loved it! She's so much fun! Also loved hearing about her and Michael Jackson. I want more details Madonna! ;) I would really love for Madonna to write a book someday about all the things she has done and so she could share stories and stuff.
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Post by August on Dec 8, 2016 11:33:21 GMT -5
She did say in an interview that she will write one...but not for a LONG time yet. I bet once she has decided to step back and retire..or slow down...she will do it.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Dec 8, 2016 11:47:58 GMT -5
Some carpool effect iTunes Pop -Rebel Heart 94 -Celebration 42 -Immaculate Collection 38
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 19:32:28 GMT -5
She's too young for a memoir. Maybe when she's 100. Lots of potential dalliances between now and then!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 10:04:01 GMT -5
I don't have Showtime and I don't want to watch the show on YouTube (although I saw the official BIM clip and it looks way overproduced). Anyone know if a DVD will be out in the next few months?
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 9, 2016 10:39:22 GMT -5
Some carpool effect iTunes Pop -Rebel Heart 94 -Celebration 42 -Immaculate Collection 38 If I'm not mistaken, they have moved even higher. Looking forward to the show tonight...added Showtime for $12.00....will cancel it in a couple of weeks!
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Dec 9, 2016 11:53:51 GMT -5
Oh nice! I have Showtime! I will watch it over the weekend.
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Post by August on Dec 9, 2016 15:12:15 GMT -5
To celebrate the excitement of the Rebel Heart Tour on Showtime tonight, here is fabulous megamix I found on youtube.
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 9, 2016 16:26:48 GMT -5
Different style hair would be nice, it's been pretty consistent....now not sure if she is trying to get back to her original hair color considering the roots. The outfit is ok....when it's free will one really complain? At least it's not all black and has a bit of color.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Dec 9, 2016 19:01:28 GMT -5
Rebel Heart is 53 on Pop itunes. with the RH tour airing tonight, maybe it will re enter bb200.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 19:50:26 GMT -5
Love the outfit. Hair would look ok if she had a lot more makeup. Looks like she just got out of the shower
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 9, 2016 20:21:23 GMT -5
Will the special be on Showtime.com after the broadcast? If so, may have to do the free trial.
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Dec 9, 2016 22:06:02 GMT -5
Madonna Shows Up To Collect BILLBOARD Woman Of The Year Award, Gives Amazing, Deeply Personal Speech About Feminism
Madonna was given a Woman of the Year by Billboard Magazine, immediately following a souful rendition of “Like a Prayer” by Labrinth and a gospel choir. She liked the performance.
“I always feel better with something hard between my legs,” she Mae Wested while straddling a mic.
She went on to deliver a powerful speech that kicked off with some feminism:
I stand before you as a doormat — oh, I mean a female entertainer... Thank you for acknowledging my ability to continue my career Billboard 2016 for 34 years in the face of blatant misogyny, sexism, constant bullying and relentless abuse. When I started, there was no Internet, so people had to say it to my face.
She name-checked the LGBTQ community early on in her speech:
There were very few people I had to “clap back at” because life was simpler there. People were just dying of AIDS everywhere, Manhattan was under the siege of a plague and it wasn't safe to be gay — it wasn't cool to be associated with the gay community.
She got deep discussing her formative years in NYC, which began in 1979:
In the first year, I was robbed at gunpoint, raped on a rooftop with a knife digging into my throat and I had my apartment broken into so many times I just stopped locking the door. In the years to follow, I lost almost every friend I had, to AIDS or drugs or gunshot. As you can imagine, all these unexpected events not only helped me become the daring woman that stands before you, but it also reminded me that I am vulnerable, and in life, there is no real safety except self-belief. And an understanding that I am not the owner of my talents — I'm not the owner of anything. Everything I have is a gift from God. And even the shitty, fucked-up things that happened to me, that still happen to me, are also gifts, to teach me lessons and make me stronger no matter how much I cry about it, I'm alone, no matter how much I ranta bout the unfairness of it all, I'll take any friend that'll listen.
She went on to say that she doesn't care about awards, but still wanted to use the moment to speak about being a woman, and a woman in the recording business.
She generously listed as influences Debbie Harry, Chrissie Hynde, Aretha Franklin and especially her “muse” David Bowie, who she says made her think there were no rules.
But I was wrong. There are no rules ... if you're a boy. If you're a girl, you have to play the game . What is that game? You are allowed to be pretty and cute and sexy, but don't act too smart, don't have an opinion, don't have an opinion that is out of line with the status quo. You are allowed to be objectified by men and dress like a slut, but don't own your sluttiness and do not, I repeat, do not, share your own sexual fantasies with the world. Be what men what you to be, but more importantly, be what women feel comfortable with you being around other men. And finally, do not age, because to age is a sin. You will be criticized, you will be vilified and you will definitely not be played on the radio.
Madonna remembered posing nude for art students, saying she recalls the media expecting her to be ashamed when the pics came out in 1985, saying people probably left her alone because she was “taken off the market” by Sean Penn. She also recalled being called a whore, a witch and like Satan during her Sex era even while Prince got to run around in provocative gear. She said this was when she fully got it that women and men were not the same in our society, period.
After the Sex backlash — about which she cried today — she felt like “the most hated person in the world,” feeling paralyzed. She also settled the score with Camille Paglia for dogging her (noyce!) and declared herself a “bad feminist,” in a good way.
Her memory of that American Bandstand moment when she declared she wanted to rule the world was that she never planned to say that, but that her ego later understood:
...if you ask the universe for a lot, you're gonna get a lot — it just won't always be pleasant. So once you embrace and accept this universal law, you just might survive not only the entertainment business, not only the music business, but you must might survive this crazy thing called life ... People say that I'm so controversial, but I think the most controversial thing that I have ever done is to stick around.
She listed such famous departees as Michael Jackson, Tupac Shakur, Prince, Whitney Houston, Amy Winehouse (wrong era, but okay), David Bowie in declaring herself “still standing.”
Toward the end, she seemed to reference Donald Trump by stating:
Women have been so oppressed for so long they believe what men say about them, and they believe they have to back a man to get the job done. And there are some very good men worth backing, but not because they're men, because they're worthy.
She showed up to collect her award in a custom Gucci pantsuit, AFTER THE JUMP ...
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Dec 9, 2016 23:38:32 GMT -5
That was quite an impressive speech. Probably the best "musician" speech ever, imo.
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Post by August on Dec 9, 2016 23:42:52 GMT -5
Will the special be on Showtime.com after the broadcast? If so, may have to do the free trial. Yes, it is supposed to be on the site, on the app, and is being rebroadcast as we speak.
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Post by So Pure on Dec 9, 2016 23:51:17 GMT -5
Rebel Heart Tour on Showtime tonight was STUNNING! She looked amazing & the sound and mix were phenomenal. Huge improvement over the MDNA Tour DVD!
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Post by August on Dec 10, 2016 0:49:03 GMT -5
I am watching now..it looks great. I saw the show in NYC and loved it. One thing I have noticed on the broadcast is that they cut her singing Love Don't Live Here Anymore. You heard the opening bars and then the number cut to LAV.
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 10, 2016 1:11:45 GMT -5
I enjoyed it, but miss the days when a show was recorded from beginning to end in the same city. This had Detroit...NYC...it was "filmed" in Austrailia, right...or some international city.
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Post by August on Dec 10, 2016 1:26:47 GMT -5
Yeah...the film quality was great but man, there were so many jump cuts and edits that it sometimes became hard to watch her just perform because they kept cutting from one shot to the next.
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Dec 10, 2016 9:30:58 GMT -5
That was quite an impressive speech. Probably the best "musician" speech ever, imo. amazing speech. Loved this quote "...if you ask the universe for a lot, you're gonna get a lot — it just won't always be pleasant. So once you embrace and accept this universal law, you just might survive not only the entertainment business, not only the music business, but you must might survive this crazy thing called life ... People say that I'm so controversial, but I think the most controversial thing that I have ever done is to stick around."
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 11, 2016 13:21:57 GMT -5
That is some speech from Her Madgesty. I watched RH Tour via Hulu/Showtime- very enjoyable. Though if released on DVD.Blu-ray, I'd hope the cut parts will appear (i.e. the bit of LDLHA, the acoustic performance of LAP/TAB, etc.) I figured it was as good a time as any to get some Madonna sales updates, and Ask Billboard posted my inquiry. The 28.5m figure would not include Evita, as it's not credited to her in the Nielsen database. www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7617649/ask-billboard-madonnas-career-album-salesHi Gary, With Madonna receiving Billboard's 2016 Woman of the Year award, what better time to discuss the Queen of Pop's success? Can you please provide an update of her album and digital song sales in the Nielsen Music era? Thank you, keep up the good work and, as always, get into the groove. Jim Radenhausen Reeders, Pennsylvania Thanks Jim. Billboard's 2016 Women in Music celebration took place Friday (Dec. 9) in New York and will air on Lifetime tomorrow (Dec. 12) at 9 p.m. ET. Check out all of Billboard's coverage of the event here, along with the entire red carpet livestream, hosted by Chelsea Briggs and Keith Caulfield … and featuring a stop-and-chat with Madonna herself, among many other special guests. (Would she ever run for President, she was asked? "Maybe," she answered, adding that the first change she would enact would be to "pay schoolteachers a lot more money.") As for Madonna's career U.S. album sales since Nielsen Music began tracking retail in 1991 (through the week ending Dec. 8, 2016), here are her 10 best sellers: 5,992,000, The Immaculate Collection (1990); 3,891,000, Ray of Light (1998); 2,934,000, Music (2000); 2,336,000, Bedtime Stories (1994); 2,102,000, Something to Remember (1995); 2,025,000, Evita (soundtrack) (1996); 1,905,000, Erotica (1992); 1,734,000, Confessions on a Dance Floor (2005); 1,397,000, GHV2: Greatest Hits Volume 2 (2001); 751,000, Hard Candy (2008) Meanwhile, Madonna's most recent LP, 2015's Rebel Heart, has sold 238,000. Her career album sales in the Nielsen era stand at 28.5 million, making her the 34th-best-selling album artist in that 25-year-plus span. She ranks at No. 7 among women in the stretch; Mariah Carey leads with 55 million, followed by Celine Dion (52.6 million), 2016 Billboard Women in Music Icon award-winner Shania Twain (34.7 million), Britney Spears (33.5 million), Reba McEntire (30.5 million) and Taylor Swift (29.8 million). (Next up after Madonna among female soloists? New age queen Enya, at 27.3 million.) Among all acts, Carey ranks fourth (and Dion, fifth), below Garth Brooks (71.1 million), The Beatles (68 million) and Metallica (56.8 million). Looking at Madonna's digital song sales (since Nielsen began tracking downloads in 2003), 2008's "4 Minutes," featuring Justin Timberlake and Timbaland, leads with 3.1 million sold. She boasts two other million-selling downloads: 2005's "Hung Up" (1.4 million) and her 1989 classic "Like a Prayer" (1.1 million). Speaking of those years when Madonna released her earlier material, The Immaculate Collection sports the highest certification from the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) among her catalog: Diamond, representing 10 million shipped. 1984's Like a Virgin is also certified Diamond for 10 million. Following are 1986's True Blue (7-times Platinum); Evita (5-times Platinum); and Ray of Light and Like a Prayer (each 4-times Platinum).
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 11, 2016 14:29:36 GMT -5
Just watched her Carpool Karaoke. One of the best ones that James Corden has done, for sure. Loved everything about it! I about died when she put that leg up in the car. I'm ready for new music from her. <3
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www.nytimes.com/2016/12/11/arts/music/madonna-hillary-clinton-renegades.html?_r=0MUSIC Madonna and Hillary: ‘Witch’ and ‘Nasty Woman’ as Sisters in Arms By CARYN GANZ and PATRICK HEALYDEC. 11, 2016 Madonna at the Billboard Women in Music 2016 event on Friday; and Hillary Clinton in October. Credit Nicholas Hunt/Getty Images; Doug Mills/The New York Times “I was called a whore and a witch,” Madonna said on Friday in a searing speech about the sexism and bullying that women face in the music industry and the culture at large. “Such a nasty woman,” Donald J. Trump interjected in October as Hillary Clinton pointed out holes in his Social Security plan during their final presidential debate. Madonna and Mrs. Clinton: both trailblazers, both polarizing figures, and both attacked for actions, choices and behavior that are broadly accepted — even applauded — when done by their male peers. Madonna herself made a connection between the two women before her speech Friday, saying it was “really important to make a stand and speak my mind” about women’s rights after Mrs. Clinton’s loss in November. Our pop music editor, Caryn Ganz, and deputy Culture editor and former political correspondent Patrick Healy looked at how Madonna and her speech put Mrs. Clinton’s candidacy in fresh perspective. PATRICK HEALY: Caryn, I’m coming off 18 months covering the presidential campaign, and frankly I’ve been wondering if Mrs. Clinton would ever give a speech like Madonna’s on Friday — calling out sexism in America and the rules that trap women but not men. “If you’re a girl, you have to play the game,” Madonna said. “Don’t have an opinion that’s out of line with the status quo.” Madonna and Mrs. Clinton have been controversial in part because they didn’t play “the game.” It’s easy to forget, amid their celebrity and longevity, that Madonna and Mrs. Clinton were once renegades: speaking out and pursuing power in ways that were considered overly ambitious for women. They fought for equality and respect — and they sought the kind of influence and money and fame that men have. Mrs. Clinton’s place and legacy in our culture is just starting to be considered and debated. But only after her speech yesterday did I start to think about her and Madonna as sisters in arms. CARYN GANZ: Mrs. Clinton is so buttoned up and Madonna is so, well, unbuttoned, that I think many people have been hesitant to make this connection. And because Madonna has used sexual expressiveness as code for all kinds of liberation, she hasn’t been courted as a political ally. But now that both of them have reached a certain age, the sexism they’ve faced for decades has become something more insidious, paired with ageism. HEALY: A lot of people don’t see sexism hurting Mrs. Clinton — after all, she won the Democratic nomination — but she and her advisers did. As for the sort of “liberation” that Madonna pioneered, Mrs. Clinton has a complicated relationship with it. She came of age in the era of women’s lib, and yet — to help Bill Clinton’s career in Arkansas — she changed her last name from Rodham to Clinton and got new hairstyles and glasses. And when she was most visibly liberated, including in her hard-charging performances in political debates, she got called “likable enough” by Barack Obama in 2008 and a “nasty woman” by Mr. Trump this fall. Madonna, in her speech Friday, recalled that she got so much abuse after releasing her “Erotica” album and “Sex” book in 1992 that she felt like “the most hated person on the planet.” GANZ: In a 2008 “Weekend Update” segment about Mrs. Clinton’s initial presidential run, Tina Fey said: “Maybe what bothers me the most is that people say that Hillary is a bitch. Let me say something about that: Yeah, she is.” (Ms. Fey later proclaimed, “Bitch is the new black.”) I thought about this when Madonna put the song “Unapologetic Bitch” on her most recent album, “Rebel Heart,” the record where she started to speak openly about the discrimination she’s faced as a female artist over 55. Madonna has referred to herself in many ways in songs over the years, but she waited until 2015, on her 13th album, to reclaim “bitch.” HEALY: Mrs. Clinton knew some people used that word about her. Like Madonna, she answered the haters with a strong work ethic. Mrs. Clinton put in 18-hour days, thought deeply about policy, and was a tireless campaigner even if she wasn’t the world’s most natural politician. Madonna is no Adele: She wasn’t born with a once-in-a-generation talent and voice. But she succeeded through work, grit and guts. GANZ: But she was born with a once-in-a-generation ability to understand and command the power of connecting her voice to her image. Nobody did this the way Madonna did before her, though many have followed her example. Knowing that as a woman, her appearance would be a talking point, Madonna co-opted this scrutiny as a weapon from the beginning of her career, forcing everyone to talk about what she looked like by evolving — it was a conversation she essentially started herself. But as she has gotten older, the commentary about her work is almost entirely centered on how she looks rather than how she sounds, and whether what she is wearing or saying is “appropriate for a woman her age” — a question that musicians like Mick Jagger, who is 15 years older than Madonna, have never had to answer. And certainly no other candidate was the subject of stories about what he wore to the debate and what his clothes meant. (Continuing investigations into Mr. Trump’s hair aside.) HEALY: I remember Mrs. Clinton telling me during the 2008 race that she probably woke up two hours earlier than Barack Obama each day because she had to do her hair and makeup, and he could just roll out of bed and into a suit. She has had no room for error in what she says or how she looks, her advisers felt, while a candidate like Mr. Trump could sound like a crazy man on Twitter, and many voters shrugged. Then again, Mrs. Clinton is far more of a perfectionist than Mr. Trump, as is Madonna. GANZ: But Madonna and Mrs. Clinton have had their perfectionism interpreted as a pathology. As women cutting a path no woman had traveled before, they had no choice but to be as precise and detail-oriented as possible, knowing the slightest failure would invite a deluge of criticism. Madonna is known to control every aspect of rooms in which she will appear, down to the color of the lampshades. While Mr. Trump was making brash statements, Mrs. Clinton was tweeting point-by-point policy plans and rigorously preparing for the debates. HEALY: But Mrs. Clinton could also take control too far, like keeping her State Department email on a private server. “I don’t want any risk of the personal being accessible,” she wrote in 2010. And in 2008, she rarely talked about being a woman because she wanted to control her image — she wanted voters to think she would be as tough as any male commander in chief. GANZ: Trailblazing is a solitary game. They’re both lonely warriors who reached a critical moment this year: the time when they had to speak up for their achievements and call out their haters. HEALY: As Madonna said in her speech, “I remember wishing I had a female peer I could look to for support.” But she and Mrs. Clinton have a mixed record as allies of feminists. Mrs. Clinton put aside her career to support her husband’s, and stood by him during his extramarital affairs, and she supported some policies, like a welfare overhaul, that critics regarded as anti-family. She was also a champion of women’s rights as human rights — even as she opposed gay rights like same-sex marriage. Do Mrs. Clinton and Madonna bear any responsibility for being polarizing figures, Caryn? GANZ: Oh, certainly, although Madonna has always been a steadfast supporter of gay rights (something Mrs. Clinton can’t claim). Madonna designed herself to be a polarizing figure, and her breed of feminism has evolved over the years — at times she’s been more focused on self-satisfaction than the advancement of womankind. She has defended Sean Penn from accusations of domestic abuse. She wrote one of the most famous songs about not having an abortion. And she’s also often been a covert feminist: On “Material Girl,” a song still cited as an ode to consumerism, Madonna is the winner because “experience has made me rich, and now they’re after me.” It wasn’t the objects she was after, or the men — it was the power. And that was in 1984. HEALY: Mrs. Clinton has been labeled power-hungry since she was a young woman. And it drove her crazy, advisers said, because Mr. Trump and other men never faced that accusation. She felt held to the double standard that Madonna spoke about on Friday. I can imagine Mrs. Clinton listening to that speech and just saying “Yaaaas” over and over.
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