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Post by Ivy Leegue⢠on Sept 5, 2023 13:06:42 GMT -5
Why does the thumbnail have the TEOM cover? That said, IWYW is a personal favorite and anthem of mine.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Sept 5, 2023 18:28:08 GMT -5
On Plattersâ My PrayerâŚdoesnât that background music sound like Foreverâs background music? It sounds so similar
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 6, 2023 11:49:21 GMT -5
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Post by Ivy Leegue⢠on Sept 6, 2023 12:39:48 GMT -5
OK, but where is the pre-order info? It definitely looks like this will be available for sale on Friday, but...when it actually arrives is a whole other situation.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Sept 6, 2023 12:55:06 GMT -5
So I know the Proctor show was televised and released on video back in the day. What songs did they film that didn't make the televised special/video? The for the first time, my "full concert" verbiage is making it sound like we're getting stuff that didn't air.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 6, 2023 13:05:20 GMT -5
OK, but where is the pre-order info? It definitely looks like this will be available for sale on Friday, but...when it actually arrives is a whole other situation. Yeah I still think digital release on Friday along with a pre-order for the physical product to arrive "soon" lmao. So I know the Proctor show was televised and released on video back in the day. What songs did they film that didn't make the televised special/video? The for the first time, my "full concert" verbiage is making it sound like we're getting stuff that didn't air. I'm not sure I know what else was performed, but the tweet certainly implies there was more. Were any of the songs cut short for the special? I know in some of her specials the 2nd verse of songs was cut out for time, so maybe that happened here too and all we're getting is the addition of a verse. :ETA: It looks like "I'll Be There" was filmed for it, though this sounds very similar to the performance that was part of the NBC special (it wasn't on stage though, right?): www.newspapers.com/article/80646624/the-daily-times/:ETA: Ok it is just adding "IBT" |
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 6, 2023 15:42:56 GMT -5
OMG y'all! New song "Workin' Hard" along with a remix of it and a remix of "IBTAY" yes! I wonder if the remixes are from back then, or if they're new. I'm thinking new a la "Higher Love," plus didn't Hunter remix "Break My Soul" and a fairly new Mary J Blige song?
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Sept 6, 2023 15:49:29 GMT -5
I think the snippet we got is probably from Workin Hard or its remix. Excited
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 6, 2023 16:13:27 GMT -5
I've never been crazy about Proctor's as it was overly dubbed, but having the HQ audio rip will be a nice addition.
I hope they cut the tracks right, meaning the beginning of the song also has the spoken intro instead of it being on the previous track. I hated that for both Tokyo Dome and St. John Divine.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 6, 2023 16:18:09 GMT -5
I don't really care about the extended tracks unless there's heavenly vocals. The remixes could be hit or miss and of course there are the tracks we already have. But the fact that we're getting so much is BANANAS after a Rarities album. |
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Sept 6, 2023 16:19:23 GMT -5
Interesting, makes me wonder if Workinâ Hard was ever considered for the album at one point and got scrapped, since it has a remix. How exciting! Iâm really curious to know what collaborations exist and were vaulted. I mean if Mariah can pull off a secret album, who knows what other secrets she really has. Girl better have some collaboration with Prince somewhere in that vault ready to go someday.
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Post by Ivy Leegue⢠on Sept 6, 2023 16:51:00 GMT -5
I doubt Prince and Mariah have a completed collab. I mean...he didn't even like her cover of TBO. Maybe they could have collabed before, but...I just don't see it. I think he gave her good career advice and that's about it.
That's cool that we are getting a couple new songs and some remixes/live stuff, but I am just greedy and want even more completely new songs that have never been heard before. Basically, I want a Rarities Pt. 2, but hey, since I don't even have Music Box on CD, I will take what I can get!
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 6, 2023 17:14:21 GMT -5
Hold up apparently the "WH" remix was already premiered: I'm betting the two Terry Hunter remixes are new a la the new remixes of "Higher Love" and others. That's cool that we are getting a couple new songs and some remixes/live stuff, but I am just greedy and want even more completely new songs that have never been heard before. Basically, I want a Rarities Pt. 2, I get that, but in the age of streaming it honestly makes more sense to just tack songs onto the album they were meant for because those streams then count for that album and help its certification. If they'd done that for MC30 instead of doing The Rarities, then the debut would be getting the streams for "HWGAA" and maybe help get it to Diamond (for example). As for the Prince song/songs, she wrote about that in her memoir. She did go to Paisley Park with a song in mind, but she wrote that she never finished it. It would be cool if she did finish it for her next album or something. |
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Post by cking33 on Sept 6, 2023 19:06:38 GMT -5
On Plattersâ My PrayerâŚdoesnât that background music sound like Foreverâs background music? It sounds so similar That kind of sound, where you play notes going up a chord and then back down (arpeggios) was a very popular sound during the 50s/Doo-Wop era and into the 60s. âUnchained Melodyâ by the Righteous Brothers probably one of the most famous and prototypical examples of this. Thatâs the era âForeverâ was capturing in doing that as well. |
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Post by Ivy Leegue⢠on Sept 6, 2023 19:09:35 GMT -5
She tacked Everything Fades Away onto the end of the standard album. Suck it, Motorola!
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 6, 2023 19:32:51 GMT -5
On Plattersâ My PrayerâŚdoesnât that background music sound like Foreverâs background music? It sounds so similar That kind of sound, where you play notes going up a chord and then back down (arpeggios) was a very popular sound during the 50s/Doo-Wop era and into the 60s. âUnchained Melodyâ by the Righteous Brothers probably one of the most famous and prototypical examples of this. Thatâs the era âForeverâ was capturing in doing that as well. Yup. If I am right about it being that cover song, if the production is more in line with that era the song might actually fit Emotions better. Considering the lyrics, "Workin' Hard" is giving me Off the Wall vibes and I'd love if the production is in that lane. More so I am just interested to see it's general style. Music Box has a lot of 'extra' tracks, and they're all interesting musically. At the same time, I do see where they would change the overall tone of the album. I do love how varied her first 4 albums are; each has their own sound. The debut is very of its time and in that 80s diva mode (Whitney, Taylor Dayne, etc). Emotions wears its old school R&B influences well and stands out in her catalog even now. Music Box is her AC/Celine album. Daydream is then the album where she started identifying her own sound/template, and it felt modern yet also classic and timeless. |
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Sept 6, 2023 20:40:36 GMT -5
Hold up apparently the "WH" remix was already premiered: I'm betting the two Terry Hunter remixes are new a la the new remixes of "Higher Love" and others. How do you know thatâs Workinâ Hard? But anyhow, your mentioned MJ on your other postâŚthats funny cause I also got Michael from that clip above. I canât really hear what Mariah is saying in that clip but the part at the 0:25 mark reminds me of Michaelâs Wanna Be Startinâ Something. Specifically, the way Michael sings âI took my baby to the doctor with a fever, but nothin' he found by the time this hit the street, they said she had a breakdownâ |
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 7, 2023 13:25:32 GMT -5
The new songs are out in some countries since it's Friday there. Some notes I've read:
1. "My Prayer" is a cover of the song The Platters (and others) did.
2. "Workin' Hard" is a BOP. She worked on it with C&C!
3. The "All I Live For" on the bonus disc has different vocals from the version on Rarities! Supposedly the Rarities version sounds like a demo compared to this one.
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Post by Ivy Leegue⢠on Sept 7, 2023 14:33:23 GMT -5
It's interesting that she says something like "This is my prayer" in Workin' Hard. Both sound great, but the Terry Hunter version sounds even better and I am not a remix ho!
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Post by The Northern Starâ on Sept 7, 2023 16:24:55 GMT -5
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Sept 7, 2023 19:07:02 GMT -5
I heard a bit of the My Prayer cover. Vocals!!
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 7, 2023 19:56:33 GMT -5
The vocal at the end of "My Prayer" reminds me of the end of "Vanishing." I'm digging the cover and it's a cool addition to her catalog, but I also see why it was left off the album as it doesn't fit the sound of the album. It would sound more appropriate on Emotions.
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Post by Ivy Leegue⢠on Sept 7, 2023 22:32:42 GMT -5
I think when I hear the finale of Never Forget You on vinyl and remastered for the first time, I will cry. The day that album dropped, I got it on cassette tape and omg when I first heard it, I was so shook. I never really got into Now That I Know, but the rest of that album is pure perfection and it will take me back.
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Post by adamalterlago on Sept 7, 2023 23:09:52 GMT -5
Vinyl is live. Go get it.
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Post by Ivy Leegue⢠on Sept 7, 2023 23:33:23 GMT -5
Vinyl is live. Go get it. The way I hopped on that vinyl faster than most of you hoes hop on dick. Don't LOVE the price (It's basically $113 with tax and shipping) but for all the content, I would do it all over again. I hope it comes soon. Also, I wonder about the packaging. It looks kinda plain on the site or at least doesn't say it comes in any cool box like the Butterfly special vinyl did. It doesn't even look like it has the full pic that the digital version has, but I'm sure it will at least be in the insert or something. Anyway, yessssss! |
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Sept 7, 2023 23:45:09 GMT -5
âAll I Live Forâ sounds amazing. Now it truly sounds complete and it slays.
âWorkinâ Hardâ is groovy. The vocals remind me of Aretha in parts. The remix is a total bop. Amazing!
âMy Prayerâ is so Music Box. Stunning vocal performance! I can see why they would leave it out though since they already had another, more showy cover, Without You. Although My Prayer is understated, itâs still so beautiful. I love it. Iâm such a fan of that sound.
âMusic Box - Acapellaâ as predicted, chills.
âAYNAF - Extended Mixâ is great to have! Love
âHero - 2009 Versionâ wasnât needed.
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Post by adamalterlago on Sept 7, 2023 23:48:10 GMT -5
Vinyl is live. Go get it. The way I hopped on that vinyl faster than most of you hoes hop on dick. Don't LOVE the price (It's basically $113 with tax and shipping) but for all the content, I would do it all over again. I hope it comes soon. Also, I wonder about the packaging. It looks kinda plain on the site or at least doesn't say it comes in any cool box like the Butterfly special vinyl did. It doesn't even look like it has the full pic that the digital version has, but I'm sure it will at least be in the insert or something. Anyway, yessssss! Right?! I was hoping for a cardboard box w the FULL album cover. Iâm hoping theyâll revise. |
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Post by Ling-Ling on Sept 7, 2023 23:51:38 GMT -5
Seeing the tracklist in full, it's kind of a mess, haha. And there's definitely wasted space. But I'm so happy with some of this stuff I don't care. The new "All I Have" is definitely an improvement, "Workin Hard" is super fun and "My Prayer" is another lovely waltz ballad in the vein of "So Blessed" and "Forever." And as I stated earlier, been wanting a full AYNAF with no fade for ages, so glad to have it because it's my favorite Mariah song. Really digging the Terry Hunter mixes as well.
I wonder when this is gonna ship? Also bummed she's not using the full pic for the cover. That shot is so gorgeous.
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Post by Ivy Leegue⢠on Sept 8, 2023 0:13:17 GMT -5
âAIWFCIY - Extended Mixâ is great to have! Love âHero - 2009 Versionâ wasnât needed. The jumpscare that AIWFCIY gave though.  Agreed about Hero though. I can't think of a single person in the world who asked for that. Like...she couldn't find ANYTHING else to fill that spot?! |
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Post by cking33 on Sept 8, 2023 4:59:14 GMT -5
My goodness they really left some of the best songs of this era off this album. These bonus tracks + All I Live For + Everything Fades Away Iâd rather have them on the original album than some of the other ballads that made the cut (looking at you All Iâve Ever Wanted, Just to Hold You Once Again)
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