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Post by theedge12 on Apr 27, 2014 0:55:41 GMT -5
I don't get what people are freaking out about jeez... its coming relax!! I really think she's putting her heart and soul into this album and its gonna be amazing.
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Post by Mean A$$ on Apr 27, 2014 1:56:26 GMT -5
I don't get what people are freaking out about jeez... its coming relax!! I really think she's putting her heart and soul into this album and its gonna be amazing. It's been 5 years of waiting... She had spoiled us before with new album every 2 years at least. Plus lack of info and album was supposed to be out last year... So yeah.. That's why the lambs are impatient. |
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Post by vipanonymous on Apr 27, 2014 8:46:41 GMT -5
 In this case "The Silence of the Shepherd"... |
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Apr 27, 2014 9:48:18 GMT -5
Assuming she is still recording for the album? LOL.
As for the Looking In live performance, I was there and the struggle was indeed real that day. She really had a hard time making it through the song. There is a reason she doesn't usually sing those songs live.
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Post by MiniMusic on Apr 27, 2014 12:40:27 GMT -5
Assuming she is still recording for the album? LOL. As for the Looking In live performance, I was there and the struggle was indeed real that day. She really had a hard time making it through the song. There is a reason she doesn't usually sing those songs live. I am only familiar with all her songs from Butterfly era to Memoirs- why can't she make it through those songs? Do you mean vocally or emotionally? |
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Apr 27, 2014 12:44:36 GMT -5
Pretty sure they mean emotionally. I saw the performance and she didn't struggle vocally
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Post by Mean A$$ on Apr 27, 2014 12:46:51 GMT -5
Assuming she is still recording for the album? LOL. As for the Looking In live performance, I was there and the struggle was indeed real that day. She really had a hard time making it through the song. There is a reason she doesn't usually sing those songs live. I am only familiar with all her songs from Butterfly era to Memoirs- why can't she make it through those songs? Do you mean vocally or emotionally? Emotionally. Looking In was a song she wrote about how miserable she was as Tommy Mottola's wife and how she was basically his prisoner not able to show her true self. Outside is a song on Butterfly she write about how it felt to grow up multiracial. Petals on Rainbow is a powerful song she actually sung on the Rainbow Tour but not without crying everytime about her broken relationship with her sister Allison, how she missed Tommy's kids (her stepchildren), and she expressed in the song that she missed Tommy (and I miss you Valentine and really loved you.. Though I wish that we'd forgive each other). |
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Post by MiniMusic on Apr 27, 2014 12:50:15 GMT -5
I am only familiar with all her songs from Butterfly era to Memoirs- why can't she make it through those songs? Do you mean vocally or emotionally? Emotionally. Looking In was a song she wrote about how miserable she was as Tommy Mottola's wife and how she was basically his prisoner not able to show her true self. Outside is a song on Butterfly she write about how it felt to grow up multiracial. Petals on Rainbow is a powerful song she actually sung on the Rainbow Tour but not without crying everytime about her broken relationship with her sister Allison, how she missed Tommy's kids (her stepchildren), and she expressed in the song that she missed Tommy (and I miss you Valentine and really loved you.. Though I wish that we'd forgive each other). I'm familiar with (and in LOVE with) "Outside" and "Petals"- especially the former. But wow I didn't know "Petals" was about all of that; I'm gonna have to give it another listen in a few. |
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Post by Mean A$$ on Apr 27, 2014 12:57:42 GMT -5
Emotionally. Looking In was a song she wrote about how miserable she was as Tommy Mottola's wife and how she was basically his prisoner not able to show her true self. Outside is a song on Butterfly she write about how it felt to grow up multiracial. Petals on Rainbow is a powerful song she actually sung on the Rainbow Tour but not without crying everytime about her broken relationship with her sister Allison, how she missed Tommy's kids (her stepchildren), and she expressed in the song that she missed Tommy (and I miss you Valentine and really loved you.. Though I wish that we'd forgive each other). I'm familiar with (and in LOVE with) "Outside" and "Petals"- especially the former. But wow I didn't know "Petals" was about all of that; I'm gonna have to give it another listen in a few. Yes so dandelion refers to Allison, the next verse she talks about a boy and girl who befriended her and refers to Tommy's kids and Valentine refers to Tommy Mottola. Tommy was actually a singer back in the day and his stage name was TD Valentine. You can actually YouTube his single from back in the day. |
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Post by MiniMusic on Apr 27, 2014 12:59:38 GMT -5
I'm familiar with (and in LOVE with) "Outside" and "Petals"- especially the former. But wow I didn't know "Petals" was about all of that; I'm gonna have to give it another listen in a few. Yes so dandelion refers to Allison, the next verse she talks about a boy and girl who befriended her and refers to Tommy's kids and Valentine refers to Tommy Mottola. Tommy was actually a singer back in the day and his stage name was TD Valentine. You can actually YouTube his single from back in the day. Wow! The song becomes a lot more emotional and better knowing all of that... I already thought it was a beautiful track but she is such an amazing writer! What a sad song; she really is one of the best songwriters I think. |
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Post by vipanonymous on Apr 27, 2014 13:35:38 GMT -5
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Apr 27, 2014 14:16:02 GMT -5
She could also be doing some bonus tracks or things to add to the digital release to give extras to those who purchase the album digitally.
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Post by Leigh on Apr 27, 2014 15:23:35 GMT -5
I thought the exact same thing when I read that article |
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Apr 27, 2014 15:36:12 GMT -5
I thought the exact same thing when I read that article Well she does have her piano, and a daughter named Monroe. Mariah herself tries to give off a Marilyn air as well. I think it will be something simple maybe even a play off one of Marilyn's film titles. I could see her do something with Diamonds in the title for Diamond's Are a Girl's Best Friend. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 16:26:48 GMT -5
Maybe she'll delay this album another 2 years and call it The Seven Year Itch.
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Post by vipanonymous on Apr 27, 2014 16:39:34 GMT -5
Maybe she'll delay this album another 2 years and call it The Seven Year Itch. LMAO! Don't doubt her 'cause she may... |
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Post by Caution on Apr 27, 2014 17:45:40 GMT -5
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Post by get2nomey on Apr 27, 2014 18:26:08 GMT -5
Guys, I was browsing the web today and came across this throwback single review of Triumphant Get 'Em by Sal Cinquemani of Slant Magazine.
"Mariah Carey might be the most reactionary pop star of all time. Her creative decisions are seemly driven not by an artistic muse, but by a desire to maintain commercial viability. It's likely the result of being so intimately involved with her expectedly money-minded record-label handlers early in her career, when she was amassing gold and breaking records like Michael Phelps. Mariah has always been obsessed with the past (specifically, recreating it), sometimes resulting in sublime nostalgia (as on "The Roof"), but more often coming off as pathologically regressive (embodied by her perpetuation of the male fantasy of woman-as-little-girl, which neutralizes whatever command it might seem like she has over her own sexual image). If you thought motherhood might change Mimi's tune, or at least push her in a new direction, her new single's artwork, previewed by the singer a few days ago, quickly put those hopes to rest: Scantily clad in a flesh-colored, peek-a-boo "dress," Mariah is airbrushed into a literal cartoon version of herself…circa 1997, of course.
So, it should come as no surprise that Mariah would follow-up 2009's Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel, which was tellingly both rapper-free and a commercial disappointment, with "Triumphant (Get 'Em)," a dated hip-hop track produced by Jermaine Dupri in the same manner a sick dog produces a bowel movement. It's easily the worst lead single (possibly the worst single, period) of her two-decade-plus career. JD's beyond-tired hype-man routine and guest raps by Rick Ross and newcomer Meek Mill dominate the first half of the song, with Mariah literally serving as a hook girl on a track that sorely lacks a strong hook. She finally unleashes a breathy verse of her own about two-thirds of the way through—something about breaking free of chains, seeing mountaintops, reaching for stars, and other brainless platitudes that ostensibly lead to, according to Ross, throwing money at strippers and running highway tolls. It's not just uninspiring, it's downright demoralizing."
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Apr 27, 2014 21:41:58 GMT -5
I honestly think for Mariah the business/marketing side really is the side that trips her up, and she genuinely has no interest in doing that aspect of her career what so ever. You can kind of tell in her 2000's career that it really is the side she dislikes. If she could really just take a year to really build a solid marketing team, she would be fine. I know she hates dealing with it, but literally it is her biggest problem building a solid team. You can tell she hates the interviewing and talking about her music/life. If she could live in a studio and be successful, then she would.
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Post by Glove Slap on Apr 28, 2014 2:39:51 GMT -5
I don't even care how this does, I just want it to come out. This release is the equivalent of brutal constipation.
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Post by Tea-why on Apr 28, 2014 8:15:20 GMT -5
I'm beyond ready for this album. I'm tired of listening to "Merry Christmas II You" in the spring/summer....
I listened to "#Beautiful" today and forgot how fantastic it is. She hit the mark on that song.
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Post by Jay D83 on Apr 28, 2014 9:03:49 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/news/6070090/no-beyonce-strategy-for-mariah-careys-new-album?mobile_redirection=falseExcerpt - "But Def Jam, Carey’s label, is now telling a different story. According to Laura Swanson, the label’s exec VP-media, the album will, in fact, be preceded by a traditional strategy leading up to a “late May” simultaneous digital/physical street date. “Mariah will announce the date and title in advance of the on-sale date,” she said, noting that the cover and confirmed tracklist will all be included. Swanson had initially declined comment for Billboard’s cover story before it hit subscribers last Friday (April 25), with Carey’s publicity team at PMK-BNC only indicating that the album’s initial release date, May 6, was inaccurate. Def Jam Recordings CEO Steve Bartels refused to answer specific questions about the release."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 9:05:54 GMT -5
According to Laura Swanson, the label’s exec VP-media, the album will, in fact, be preceded by a traditional strategy leading up to a “late May” simultaneous digital/physical street date. “Mariah will announce the date and title in advance of the on-sale date,” she said, noting that the cover and confirmed tracklist will all be included. What an absolute mess. |
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Apr 28, 2014 9:17:04 GMT -5
Hi-larious!
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Post by Glove Slap on Apr 28, 2014 9:35:41 GMT -5
Gurl...
If she continues with a major label after this, I really hope for a more strict label hand. Yes, she's at the point where she can forego one as strict as Tommy or L.A. at their best at her choice, but this public switching of release dates and cancellations is just hurting her.
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Post by Carlitoz on Apr 28, 2014 10:02:56 GMT -5
Yep... EVERYBODY in this project (label, Mariah, her manager, etc) are ALL PERFECTLY IN SYNC. ALL on the same page. Just flawless.
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Post by kmbgs on Apr 28, 2014 10:07:57 GMT -5
#disastuh
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 28, 2014 10:11:20 GMT -5
Gurl... If she continues with a major label after this, I really hope for a more strict label hand. Yes, she's at the point where she can forego one as strict as Tommy or L.A. at their best at her choice, but this public switching of release dates and cancellations is just hurting her. What she needed to do was simply communicating with the label to share her plans and vision with them. Instead she decided to cut ties with them and ride with JD solo. Just go independent then, if you really want be your on your own. I don't get this. |
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Post by Jay D83 on Apr 28, 2014 10:15:25 GMT -5
Gurl... If she continues with a major label after this, I really hope for a more strict label hand. Yes, she's at the point where she can forego one as strict as Tommy or L.A. at their best at her choice, but this public switching of release dates and cancellations is just hurting her. What she needed to do was simply communicating with the label to share her plans and vision with them. Instead she decided to cut ties with them and ride with JD solo. Just go independent then, if you really want be your on your own. I don't get this. Exactly! It kinda pisses me off to see these artists who think they can just blow through label money/resources and then think they can do exactly what they want. You're a superstar, we get it, but if you're gonna do it "your way" then you need to be spending "your funds." Period. |
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Post by fire on Apr 28, 2014 10:39:31 GMT -5
So, after the "surprise release frenzy" of last week, my anticipation level for this project just hit a new low. i mean, i am looking forward to it but all this back and forth is getting me mad!
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