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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 13:49:32 GMT -5
If there ever was a perfect example of why Mariah is the one and only, the 3 versions of My All is the explanation. There is the original class with the powerful and sultry vocals a ballad of supreme divine intervention, honey. Then there is the fun and cute video plus the urban smash remix of it which i still consider a bop today and that dance mix, OMFG. She took one track and made 3 fucking classics out of it for 3 different audiences, YAS MIMI! get it.
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Post by get2nomey on Mar 16, 2014 13:56:36 GMT -5
Billboard Today in 1996, Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men's "One Sweet Day" spent its 16th week at No. 1 on the #Hot100, wrapping the longest reign by any song in the chart's history Wow. It really spent a long time at number one to have still been at no.1 in March of 1996. I live in NYC and I find that I don't hear "One Sweet Day" on the radio at all anymore. I don't hear much Mariah on the radio at all these days to be honest. I don't know why that is. Do people elsewhere still hear her on the radio? I'm surprised but I rarely hear her TEOM stuff on the radio. "Touch My Body" vanished from the radio as soon as it fell down the chart in 2008. How does Mariah do in recurrent play, anybody know? I hear other huge artists on the radio much more than Mariah. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 14:01:57 GMT -5
Also of the top of my head im pretty sure 7 weeks is long enough considering she made "Rainbow" from start to finish in just a couple weeks or so. Let her put whatever finishing touches she wants aslong as they dont move the album date, im cool.
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Post by die Lotterie on Mar 16, 2014 14:18:17 GMT -5
If there ever was a perfect example of why Mariah is the one and only, the 3 versions of My All is the explanation. There is the original class with the powerful and sultry vocals a ballad of supreme divine intervention, honey. Then there is the fun and cute video plus the urban smash remix of it which i still consider a bop today and that dance mix, OMFG. She took one track and made 3 f**king classics out of it for 3 different audiences, YAS MIMI! get it. Can we talk about the "Morales "Def" Club Mix" and the ever so rare "Morales "Def" Instrumental" with the out of this world percussion and horns? Different from the "Morales "My" Club Mix" and his "Classic Mix". The "My All" dance remixes are my all time favorites next to "Say Somethin" (Stereo Anthem Mix)". Don't forget we got "Mi Todo" with dance remixes and the Full Crew remixes, too. lol I loved the Butterfly era because we had millions of #pow remixes. I lost/broke all my CD singles with the remixes from that era. Time to do some online shopping. I'd also like to find some of the vinyls with remixes. Sorry for the tangent... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 14:25:08 GMT -5
I loved alot of her dance mixes not so much anymore but whatever, I think Say Something or Obsessed remix is the last one i enjoyed. Sorry for all the talk of past glory but we aint getting much current news so again, whatever.
The reason I remain bullish that the chances of this album still being good is really outside of Charmbracelet and Rainbow, I have quite enjoyed or loved every other album regardless of songs I didn't like. When the record is that strong I think the chances this collection of work will be good still remains high. I hope anyways.
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Post by die Lotterie on Mar 16, 2014 14:48:30 GMT -5
I loved alot of her dance mixes not so much anymore but whatever, I think Say Something or Obsessed remix is the last one i enjoyed. Sorry for all the talk of past glory but we aint getting much current news so again, whatever. The reason I remain bullish that the chances of this album still being good is really outside of Charmbracelet and Rainbow, I have quite enjoyed or loved every other album regardless of songs I didn't like. When the record is that strong I think the chances this collection of work will be good still remains high. I hope anyways. Please revisit the Danny Verde remix of "Triumphant". It's the ultimate gay, fierce yet straight molly anthem ever. I've never hated an album of hers, but I'll admit I don't listen to Charmbracelet much outside of "Through The Rain", "Bringin' On The Heartbreak", "The One", "Yours", and "Sunflowers for Alfred Roy". |
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Post by kmbgs on Mar 16, 2014 18:20:56 GMT -5
I do not like Charmbracelet and I have a feeling this album will join that club. However, I'd be more than satisfied if there was one JAM on the album, and a few songs that I find pleasant and can bump while walking to work.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Mar 16, 2014 18:47:31 GMT -5
The only albums of hers that I don't go out of my way to listen to are Charmbracelet and Rainbow. Charmbracelet because the vocals and production were terrible on it, and Rainbow just came across as very cheap overall and a very of the moment album. I think her most underrated album would fall between Glitter and Memoirs. I give the slight edge to Glitter in that one as most of the songs were on point and interesting. I liked Memoirs, but I think where Memoirs failed is individually I liked all the songs, but as an album it had like this one note element in the production where it all blended together. I think the Dream overall let her down in breaking up the monotony of the album.
I think the hardest part for me is watching the quality of her work ethic slightly deteriorate. For someone who is such a perfectionist as Mariah, I scratch my head at the lackluster set of dance and urban remixes she releases and the glamour shot videos lately. I don't expect remixes for every song she does, but if she is going to do remixes, I do expect a modicum of effort put into at least the first two singles or songs that mean a lot to her. Mariah was golden with her remixes I would say up through Rainbow, and then she lost her way for a bit. She then seemed to find a return of form on TEOM, and then she has just kind of lost it again since. For me, if you are making the effort to do a remix, then you are committing to actually realize a remix. I think she has had a lot of good ideas for her remixes, but I don't think they were properly executed resulting in poor remixes.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Mar 17, 2014 4:40:59 GMT -5
If there ever was a perfect example of why Mariah is the one and only, the 3 versions of My All is the explanation. There is the original class with the powerful and sultry vocals a ballad of supreme divine intervention, honey. Then there is the fun and cute video plus the urban smash remix of it which i still consider a bop today and that dance mix, OMFG. She took one track and made 3 f**king classics out of it for 3 different audiences, YAS MIMI! get it. Can we talk about the "Morales "Def" Club Mix" and the ever so rare "Morales "Def" Instrumental" with the out of this world percussion and horns? Different from the "Morales "My" Club Mix" and his "Classic Mix". The "My All" dance remixes are my all time favorites next to "Say Somethin" (Stereo Anthem Mix)". Don't forget we got "Mi Todo" with dance remixes and the Full Crew remixes, too. lol I loved the Butterfly era because we had millions of #pow remixes. I lost/broke all my CD singles with the remixes from that era. Time to do some online shopping. I'd also like to find some of the vinyls with remixes. Sorry for the tangent... Me too, James. I personally LOVE the LOVERBOY CLUB OF LOVE REMIX. I love how tired and delirous she sounds, all doped up on the love shot given to her by her sugar daddy. |
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Mar 17, 2014 5:16:18 GMT -5
I got a little brave and put the Loverboy Remix (with Da Brat's infamous shade-throwing verse) on the playlist for a St Paddy's party I DJ'ed yesterday. People were bopping all over to it, even the ones who didn't know it. The power! I also threw the #B remix on there (with Jeezy) for good measure.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 17, 2014 7:57:07 GMT -5
get2noinmey, Mariah gets decent recurrent play. The bulk of an act's recurrent play comes from AC, but she also gets some at other formats (with pop contributing the least). "One Sweet Day," however, doesn't receive as much as ones like "Always Be My Baby," "Hero," "I'll Be There," etc.
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Post by xxzion72xx on Mar 17, 2014 8:16:28 GMT -5
Come on Mariah! Give your lambs what they been waiting for for almost 3 1/2 years this is becoming one of the most drawn out lazy releases I've ever seen in my life.... It time too grow up!
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Post by MFM29 on Mar 17, 2014 8:29:20 GMT -5
If there ever was a perfect example of why Mariah is the one and only, the 3 versions of My All is the explanation. There is the original class with the powerful and sultry vocals a ballad of supreme divine intervention, honey. Then there is the fun and cute video plus the urban smash remix of it which i still consider a bop today and that dance mix, OMFG. She took one track and made 3 f**king classics out of it for 3 different audiences, YAS MIMI! get it. I always thought the same thing. My all is the perfect Mariah's single. it works in every format and sounds perfect in all of them. I mean, what song do you recall that can be a ballad, a urban song and a dance track and doesn't sound like it's a remix but an original song. perfection |
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Mar 17, 2014 8:58:18 GMT -5
Come on Mariah! Give your lambs what they been waiting for for almost 3 1/2 5 years this is becoming one of the most drawn out lazy releases I've ever seen in my life.... It time too grow up! Yes. I'm hoping that it's only because, according to her own tweets, the album still isn't done and she has been going hard to finish it. However, I'm glad that she (hopefully) won't be spending her tv time promoting You're Mine. It would've been a waste for her to be on all the talk shows promoting that turd that'll never re-enter the Hot 100. At least she can focus on album/new single talk. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 9:21:56 GMT -5
Well it's Top40 on 4 out of the 5 major radio formats this morning!
CHR/Top 40:
44 39 MARIAH CAREY You're Mine (Eternal) 919 781 +138 3.098
+33 Spins
+21 Bullet
+0.025 AI
Rhythmic:
37 36 MARIAH CAREY You're Mine (Eternal) 643 583 +60 2.338
+14 Spins
-14 Bullet
+0.034 AI
Urban AC:
23 21 MARIAH CAREY You're Mine (Eternal) 251 254 -3 1.120
+5 Spins
+2 Bullet
-0.020 AI
Urban:
44 41 MARIAH CAREY You're Mine (Eternal) 401 362 +39 2.112
+8 Spins
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-0.010 AI
Adult Contemporary:
245 40 MARIAH CAREY You're Mine (Eternal) 36 1 +35 0.077
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Mar 17, 2014 10:12:09 GMT -5
This is progressing at radio at a glacial pace. I mean I am glad that it is still moving up, but this is like agonizingly slow.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Mar 17, 2014 12:01:38 GMT -5
I seriously think Joy Ride is one of my favorite Mariah songs. Criminally underrated, down to that "FROM THE DAY" growl and it ends on that classic extended Mariah note.
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Post by die Lotterie on Mar 17, 2014 12:05:06 GMT -5
Can we talk about the "Morales "Def" Club Mix" and the ever so rare "Morales "Def" Instrumental" with the out of this world percussion and horns? Different from the "Morales "My" Club Mix" and his "Classic Mix". The "My All" dance remixes are my all time favorites next to "Say Somethin" (Stereo Anthem Mix)". Don't forget we got "Mi Todo" with dance remixes and the Full Crew remixes, too. lol I loved the Butterfly era because we had millions of #pow remixes. I lost/broke all my CD singles with the remixes from that era. Time to do some online shopping. I'd also like to find some of the vinyls with remixes. Sorry for the tangent... Me too, James. I personally LOVE the LOVERBOY CLUB OF LOVE REMIX. I love how tired and delirous she sounds, all doped up on the love shot given to her by her sugar daddy. ME TOO! I love those remixes. You best believe I have the imported CD single with the MJ Cole and Morales remixes! I have a vinyl as well, but it's just the original and the urban remix. I got a little brave and put the Loverboy Remix (with Da Brat's infamous shade-throwing verse) on the playlist for a St Paddy's party I DJ'ed yesterday. People were bopping all over to it, even the ones who didn't know it. The power! I also threw the #B remix on there (with Jeezy) for good measure. I played it yesterday at work, too! There were definitely bops detected. I appreciate it more than I used to, I think it works better in the current music climate. <3 |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Mar 17, 2014 17:54:25 GMT -5
New Billboard charts: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/5937624/chart-highlights-pharrells-happy-takes-over-a-host-of-airplayPop Song *** No. 1 (1 week)*** "Happy" Pharrell Williams Greatest Gainer No. 6 "All Of Me" John Legend Debut No. 34 "Me And My Broken Heart" Rixton Debut No. 36 "Sleeping With A Friend" Neon Trees Debut No. 37 "Find You" Zedd, Matthew Koma, Miriam Bryant Debut No. 38 "Wild Wild Love" Pitbull Featuring G.R.L. Debut No. 39 "You're Mine (Eternal)" Mariah CareyR&B/Hip-Hop Airplay *** No. 1 (1 week)*** "Happy" Pharrell Williams Greatest Gainer No. 22 "Trophies" Young Money Featuring Drake Debut No. 48 "You're Mine (Eternal)" Mariah CareyDebut No. 49 "Drop It" Trevor Jackson Debut No. 50 "Say That" Leela James Featuring Anthony Hamilton |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 8:20:49 GMT -5
According to Mediabase, looking at the airplay averages on POP and RHY radio for her lead singles it's clear that IDJ messed up Obsessed becoming her 19th #1 hit!
Average of POP & RHY airplay combined:
Dreamlover -1
Fantasy-1
Honey-5.5
Heartbreaker-12
Loverboy-29
It's Like That-12.5
Touch My Body-5
Obsessed-5
#Beautiful-12.5
If Sony could get Hearbreaker to #1 (which was not even a top 10 airplay hit on POP & RHY combined) then surely IDJ could've figured out a way to get Obsessed to #1!
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 18, 2014 9:33:42 GMT -5
"Obsessed" was not discounted like "Heartbreaker" was- plus, HB charted in an era when many of the biggest radio hits didn't have CD singles, so it was easier to get to the top.
"Obsessed" did pretty well at radio, topping out at No. 6 on Hot 100 Airplay. (HB, by the way, peaked at No. 8 on Hot 100- Airplay, on the strength of non-pop play; it missed the top 20 at pop radio).
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Post by mikeshere on Mar 18, 2014 9:59:41 GMT -5
Its weird that Loverboy does sound like you could hear it on Hot97 Today! Mariah.. always ahead of her time lol. the Roof would still smash if you ask me.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Mar 18, 2014 10:30:43 GMT -5
It would be interesting to see what she could do with a writing session or two with Sia. I would die to hear that infectious chorus.
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Mar 18, 2014 10:52:52 GMT -5
"Obsessed" was not discounted like "Heartbreaker" was Obsessed cost 99 cents, right? What did Heartbreaker cost? |
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Mar 18, 2014 11:31:01 GMT -5
I don't think Heartbreaker was discounted. The only single I know of that was heavily discounted was Loverboy which I believe was discounted to 69 cents.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 12:19:02 GMT -5
The cheapest I've ever heard "Heartbreaker" was sold for was 99 cents. There were a lot of 99 cent singles at that time. I think I paid $1.99-$2.99 for it.
"Obsessed" probably could have gone to #1 if they delayed the digital release as long as they did with "Touch My Body".
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 18, 2014 16:14:24 GMT -5
"Obsessed" took longer to climb in airplay than TMB, so that may not have had No. 1 potential, regardless. I don't recall if it was discounted on iTunes (even for a brief time).
Some of Mimi's Sony-era singles were 99 cents for the CD, which was pretty cheap, when most discounted CD singles were $1.99; cassette singles were 99 cents and under. It could vary by outlet, too- "Loverboy" was 49 cents, and at some outlets, there were reports that the maxi was being sold for as much- Sony, of course, matched the 49 cents with "Bootylicious" (not sure if it was all outlets). Few big radio hits were released as singles at the time, which allowed "Loverboy" to jump to No. 2 on the Hot 100, as it had a No. 50 airplay peak.
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Post by Daniel Collins on Mar 18, 2014 18:45:23 GMT -5
Is it possible that this is Mariah?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 18, 2014 18:57:19 GMT -5
They already announced a release date, released a single(s), etc., so it wouldn't be a shockeroo like Beyonce's album was. But some may avoid streaming services- or at east hold off on them.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Mar 18, 2014 19:30:45 GMT -5
If there ever was a perfect example of why Mariah is the one and only, the 3 versions of My All is the explanation. There is the original class with the powerful and sultry vocals a ballad of supreme divine intervention, honey. Then there is the fun and cute video plus the urban smash remix of it which i still consider a bop today and that dance mix, OMFG. She took one track and made 3 f**king classics out of it for 3 different audiences, YAS MIMI! get it. But she outdid herself with 'Heartbreaker' later. FOUR versions and they all fit like gloves. #genius :'( |
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