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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 8:03:53 GMT -5
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Post by Glove Slap on Apr 5, 2014 8:10:49 GMT -5
People need to stop using "futuristic" as a descriptive word for music. It made sense when synthesized sounds were new and later when techno music was on the rise, but those influences can be found in most genres today (aside from Country I guess), both in the mainstream and more underground scenes. It's not futuristic because it already has happened.
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Post by nitro on Apr 5, 2014 9:47:34 GMT -5
She might be in the studio because she is recording remixes or possibly even songs for a re-release of the album.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 9:57:16 GMT -5
Fabolous is on an album track. It could just be rap added to a song she'd already recorded, but reliable fans have said it's not a remix.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 5, 2014 14:27:33 GMT -5
nitro- re-release? I think the important thing is to get the album out period.
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Post by lookinghot on Apr 5, 2014 19:39:09 GMT -5
Mariah aint gonna be all up and prepping tracks at 8 a.m. when she has dem babies at home, I have faith she will deliver. Let's wait and see.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Apr 5, 2014 20:51:46 GMT -5
The one thing I am noticing is how heavy on the features this album will be if the songs they are featured on make the cut.
Nas, R Kelly, Maxwell, Miguel, Wale, Fabolous
I hope her solo efforts on this album aren't a bunch of You're Mine's and Art Of Letting Go's :X.
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Post by crdubb17 on Apr 5, 2014 21:01:27 GMT -5
Well I hope that the collabos are more in the vein of Twista and One and Only and less like Triumphant.
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Post by 85la on Apr 5, 2014 23:01:02 GMT -5
My comment was more about Mariah, for the first time, doing whatever she wants regardless of commercial appeal. This album seems like it's going to be a major career transition. She's been working on this material forever, and it seems that the obsessing is more about the mixing and vocal layers than obsessing over hit potential. Mariah is also not stupid and clearly knows she's doing almost no promotion. I don't think being a chart smashing pop star is front and center on her list of priorities anymore. Being a chart smashing pop star is not front and center on her list of priorities anymore? Are you serious??? So it was just a coincidence that she decided to delay the album release each time after the last four "first" singles tanked? (Though to be fair, #Beautiful didn't really tank, but was just barely peaking and might have gone on to be bigger had she chosen to stick with releasing the album after that. Or if #Beautiful really was finished, it could have been a good lead-in to bigger hits). Don't get me wrong, Mariah is one of my favorite singers, but to expect your first single to be a smash top five each time, even when your relevance is clearly waning, sounds like a highly demanding diva. |
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Post by nitro on Apr 5, 2014 23:50:24 GMT -5
nitro- re-release? I think the important thing is to get the album out period. Lol... I'm just saying that because she's in the studio, it doesn't necessarily mean she's working on material for the album coming out on May 6th. Could be a remix of the second single, additional material for re-release, or something for someone else's project. Just wanted to throw that out there as it seems like some people were freaking out that the album might be delayed because she's in the studio again. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 6, 2014 7:32:29 GMT -5
For various reasons, Mimi has to know that she's not likely to smash like the past, so I don't know how much of a role that concern has played in the album delay. "#Beautiful" did decently for her, and if she expected to fare a whole lot better than that, I'd suggest a reality check for her. But I don't think she's that clueless. It may just be part of what was discussed before, about doing what she wants and not feeling any kind pf pressure.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Apr 6, 2014 8:12:58 GMT -5
I think she is going to do what she can to make sure this album at least is a solid/decent album. I think she will probably want this album to fare well in some form. I don't know how much effort she is going to put in on this album with her record company in shambles. I think it is more important to put out a great album that at least is received well by her fans and perhaps critics. I think that will be more important as I am sure she will probably jump ship to a new label after this album. I think she will probably want this album to be a good transitional piece for her career as a whole.
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Post by Dreams on Apr 6, 2014 8:21:15 GMT -5
Mimi doesn't "have to know" anything. There's nothing wrong with being ambitious and striving for the top; this is actually one of the things I've always admired about her, I'm talking about how driven and determined she is when it comes to her job. She said not too long ago that it's all about "not giving up until you get the next song of the decade". Anyway, L.A. Reid retweeted this: LOL at the blatant JD shade!  Reminds me of when lambs were going in on The Dream on twitter after the underperformance of MOAIA, and JD was sitting there gloating retweeting the lambs' tweets. I wonder what L.A. and Mariah's relationship is like right now?
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Post by Ivy Leegueβ’ on Apr 6, 2014 8:28:23 GMT -5
Oooooo kill 'em! As frustrated as I am at the lack of concrete news, all will be forgiven if I get anything along the lines of the quality of her last 3 albums. If she craps out a Rainblow or Flopbracelet...
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Post by Mean A$$ on Apr 6, 2014 12:14:28 GMT -5
Mimi doesn't "have to know" anything. There's nothing wrong with being ambitious and striving for the top; this is actually one of the things I've always admired about her, I'm talking about how driven and determined she is when it comes to her job. She said not too long ago that it's all about "not giving up until you get the next song of the Your right she is a hard worker. What she had been lacking lately is professionalism. She has been unreliable in terms of delivering what she promises, timeliness is a huge factor and she's been acting very shady towards everyone lately and that is not a cute look for her. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 6, 2014 12:59:27 GMT -5
There's not likely top be a third "Song of the Decade," so gurl just needs to get the product out and deliver a decent product. And the reason I said that I don't think that's a big concern for her is based on the singles she's been releasing, as well as the fact that she's not collaborating with acts who are among the go-to hitmakers of the moment.
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Post by johnblaze on Apr 6, 2014 13:24:28 GMT -5
There's not likely top be a third "Song of the Decade," so gurl just needs to get the product out and deliver a decent product. And the reason I said that I don't think that's a big concern for her is based on the singles she's been releasing, as well as the fact that she's not collaborating with acts who are among the go-to hitmakers of the moment. Song of the decade...please. How about if Mariah were to just make a good song. Her music is terrible and this era is setting up to be a flop on the level of GLITTER. She doesn't know what's she's doing. Her management hasn't got a clue. She's making an album for 2014 that wouldn't have even sold in 2000. Her music is out of date. She keeps on making this midtempo R&B that ruled radio in the early 00s. I'm so sick of Mariah Carey. I used to consider myself a lamb but Mariah has lost my respect after appearing naked in her umpteenth video and making shoddy music. Her voice is tattered and I'm tired of hearing her whispering vocals all the time. She doesn't sound good anymore. I can't stand Mariah Carey. |
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Apr 6, 2014 13:31:43 GMT -5
^can somebody ban this damn fool?
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Post by johnblaze on Apr 6, 2014 13:32:46 GMT -5
^can somebody ban this damn fool? No way. I have a right to my opinion. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 6, 2014 13:35:03 GMT -5
What has she done to you, to say you "can't stand" her and to call her a "biatch"? It's one thing to be critical, but that seems a tad unnecessarily negative. I hope your first post on the site was a nicer one.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Apr 6, 2014 13:39:46 GMT -5
You are using derogatory language. Hating/trolling....you're breaking the rules of this board. On a more personal note, I see that you are seriously disturbed and have deep rooted issues beyond your control, go seek help.
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Post by johnblaze on Apr 6, 2014 13:42:28 GMT -5
What has she done to you, to say you "can't stand" her and to call her a "biatch"? It's one thing to be critical, but that seems a tad unnecessarily negative. I hope your first post on the site was a nicer one. I'm just telling it like it is. I'm so sick of Mariah Carey. I wish that she would just go away already. She's made millions. Why does she keep having to tarnish her image and her legacy. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 14:37:46 GMT -5
Here's a suggestion: Why don't you get out of her thread and go focus on the other 7 billion people on this planet. Many of us love her music (current music included) and are thrilled that she is giving us a new album in a month.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 6, 2014 14:40:23 GMT -5
Speaking of which... it's a month this week. Can anyone think of an instance where an album had an announced release date and there was still no official title at this point?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 14:48:02 GMT -5
Watch the title just be "Mariah."
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Post by vipanonymous on Apr 6, 2014 15:26:13 GMT -5
Watch the title just be "Mariah." Please no! I'm sick of self-titled albums. In 2013 we had a bunch of them: Ciara, Avril, BeyoncΓ©, Britney Jean... |
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Apr 6, 2014 15:26:22 GMT -5
I don't think she is tarnishing her legacy. I do think people over react to Mariah and how she dresses. How long has Mariah been flashing her tits and legs at us now? There shouldn't be anything to get over at this point with her clothes. The only time I ever hate anything she wears is when those breasts look like they are about to cause a wardrobe malfunction because of lack of material to keep them in like her BET performance dress for You're Mine. I actually have to give Mariah more credit lately she has been more demure in her fashion choices anyway. Of the 5 songs released with in the span of 2 years only one I would give an F to and that is Triumphant. Almost Home (B), You're Mine (B-/C) and Art of Letting Go (B-) are all passable. #Beautiful (A) is fantastic.
Johnblaze, Mariah is at that point in her career where things are going to slow down for her period. Aside from her 1 blaze of glory with TEOM and start of E=MC^2, she hasn't been a major force in pop music at all since the Daydream/Butterfly days. Mariah isn't going to jump on producers of the moment because that isn't who she is. She isn't going to make that dance album. She isn't going to work with Dr. Luke, Max Martin or whoever else Katy Perry, Rihanna and company are going to for production. She is a woman in her mid 40's who stands an odd shot maybe here and there at scoring a pop hit if the material is phenomenal. Right now it looks like with the guest features and producers for this album, she is trying to deliver a decent urban album which at her age is probably the smarter bet for her.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 6, 2014 16:48:26 GMT -5
Speaking of which... it's a month this week. Can anyone think of an instance where an album had an announced release date and there was still no official title at this point? I can't within those parameters, but there have been a lot of albums that were released very quickly after being announced (or not having been announced at all). Of course, those all seemed planned out while this seems to be more of a mess with Mariah still recording (though if she's now mixing at least recording seems to finally be done) and perhaps not even having a title, cover, and tracklist. I think I might just get off Mariah boards/threads May 6 to see if the album even drops on time. She has turned into Michael Jackson in terms of this recording nonsense. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 6, 2014 16:56:03 GMT -5
I don't think she is tarnishing her legacy. I do think people over react to Mariah and how she dresses. I disagree. Mariah has had top 10 hits across 20 years, and with "AIWFCIY" re-charting and "#B" going top 20, she's nearing 25 years of hit-making. She has been a major influence on current acts like Kelly Clarkson, Beyonce, etc. She writes and producers her music. Her credentials scream legend. Period. But her weird posing and her lip synching have tarnished her image as a performer, which is huge. And her diva antics have caused her to seem out of touch as opposed to being someone the public wants to embrace. TEOM was huge in part because people rallied behind her comeback (the music helped, of course). After the comeback, she didn't have a "story." She did have a better image when she had the twins and did Jenny Craig, but then she did Idol and had her feud with Nicki Minaj and all of her rambling on the show, and her image took a hit again. She doesn't demand the respect that legends have in the way other people do. None of that is to say Mariah needs to be any different; it's her life, and she can be the person she wants. But that doesn't mean it helps her image. |
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Apr 6, 2014 17:56:14 GMT -5
I don't think she is tarnishing her legacy. I do think people over react to Mariah and how she dresses. I disagree. Mariah has had top 10 hits across 20 years, and with "AIWFCIY" re-charting and "#B" going top 20, she's nearing 25 years of hit-making. She has been a major influence on current acts like Kelly Clarkson, Beyonce, etc. She writes and producers her music. Her credentials scream legend. Period. But her weird posing and her lip synching have tarnished her image as a performer, which is huge. And her diva antics have caused her to seem out of touch as opposed to being someone the public wants to embrace. TEOM was huge in part because people rallied behind her comeback (the music helped, of course). After the comeback, she didn't have a "story." She did have a better image when she had the twins and did Jenny Craig, but then she did Idol and had her feud with Nicki Minaj and all of her rambling on the show, and her image took a hit again. She doesn't demand the respect that legends have in the way other people do. None of that is to say Mariah needs to be any different; it's her life, and she can be the person she wants. But that doesn't mean it helps her image. The only thing Mariah has done that to me is ridiculous is drag out this process with this album. I think with Mariah that as long as the music is there, then people do not seem to care about the antics. Unfortunately for Mariah, You're Mine was not the song that people wanted from her especially after the fresh sound that seemed to be hinted at with #Beautiful. I mean #Beautiful was climbing the charts despite a weak response to Mariah's appearance on Idol. I think Mariah's consistency she has had for most of her career gets in the way more than anything with public perception of her. When we are used to getting songs like Vision of Love, Dreamlover, ABMB, WBT, Fantasy, Obsessed, even #Beautiful, etc. and we don't get that from her, I have noticed most tend to rage/lash out against her. I would say she has delivered consistently solid albums from TEOM onward. She has had some stumbles with Triumphant and the releasing of Art Of Letting Go and You're Mine, but overall her quality of work has been there. I am a Mariah fan, and even I don't go to Mariah in hopes of seeing a quality performance. If I get a great performance, I always consider it a nice luck of the draw. Mariah, voice aside, has always left a lot to be desired as a performer. If I want to see a performance, I will go see Madonna, Beyonce, Tina Turner or someone else perform, so I can get a full effect performance. I don't think the public at large is expecting grand things from a Mariah performance. Mariah has never been known for her performances. She is among her fans, but overall I would say she has a few key moments that the public remembers fondly. I would say the problem for Mariah, and it has always been a big problem for her from the 2000's onward have been management/team issues. You are only as strong as your team, and Mariah has had a lot of disjointed teams in the second half of her career. You see what happens when she has a strong team we get a TEOM. Her revolving door of managers is a particularly troubling thing to see. When she isn't making music/working on something of interest to her, focus is a very hard thing to come by for her. Hence, she needs a strong manager/team to get her to put the interest into the areas she doesn't want to do. |
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