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Post by shakemaki on Oct 2, 2024 1:17:30 GMT -5
Yup, it's undeniably one of her signature hits now. I was actually just thinking about this recently and wondering what might have been if it had been the lead from E=MC2 instead of Memoirs. E killed a lot of her comeback momentum, and while TMB was able to coast off TEOM, I think Obsessed could have made a much bigger splash with all the hype for that era. It was overall still the bigger CHR hit out of the two.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Oct 2, 2024 7:29:18 GMT -5
Yup, it's undeniably one of her signature hits now. I was actually just thinking about this recently and wondering what might have been if it had been the lead from E=MC2 instead of Memoirs. E killed a lot of her comeback momentum, and while TMB was able to coast off TEOM, I think Obsessed could have made a much bigger splash with all the hype for that era. It was overall still the bigger CHR hit out of the two. I think TMB worked well. I think the choice in follow-up is what killed the E era. I think she started that era out very strong, then the follow-up and pivoting to focus on Nick Cannon did the damage. I mean she was chugging along and then bam left turn. I think everyone was trying to figure out the Nick Cannon thing and even she was trying to figure out the Nick Cannon thing, and music got lost.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 2, 2024 7:43:40 GMT -5
The 2 year gap between "DFAU" and E=MC2 didn't help either. "Touch My Body" did its job, but it definitely coasted a bit off good vibes from TEOM (its #8 peak at Top 40 was well below WBT, SIO, and DFAU). Mariah definitely lost some momentum in that 2 year gap. E=MC2 was initially scheduled to come out in late 2007. It certainly would have sold better then if only because of holiday sales, but I also wonder if being 6 months or so closer to the TEOM success would have helped as well.
And, yeah, "Bye Bye" didn't perform well, but media attention shifting to the quickie marriage to Nick didn't help either. She did continue to promote the album, though, but all momentum had been lost. Ultimately the album didn't have much of a narrative; TEOM to the second power wasn't enough.
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Oct 2, 2024 8:40:43 GMT -5
I focused more on the what is going on with Mariah with the whole Nick Cannon moment. I forgot about the music because even when she did promote, it was very Nick centric. It was very off โbrandโ for her to be so open and very public forward with her relationship, so it really threw me off. If you look at her romantic history, she was never as forthcoming about anything as she was about her relationship with Nick.
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Post by shakemaki on Oct 2, 2024 14:06:53 GMT -5
Yeah, TMB got very lucky with momentum based on its lack of longevity and the honestly very poor radio performance compared to the TEOM hits. Migrate was always the โitโs right there!!โ blatant smash of EMC2. Though the irony is the song sounds dated as hell today lol, but it couldnโt have been more perfect for the mainstream soundscape of 07-08. I think it especially would have been massive if released in 07 when the album was originally planned for. Imagine it coming hot off the heels of T-Painโs Buy U a Drank smashingโฆ prob woulda been a 10+ weeker at the top of the h100.
On an aside, I will never forget how the media hyped up Bye Bye during pre-release listening parties. I even remember one pub (I wanna say billboard) saying it was the โinsuranceโ of the album - the song that if all else failed, they had a guaranteed #1 smash to fall back on. Lololol.
I honestly wonder if that media pre-release attention for it is what convinced them it had to be one of the first two singles. I for one know from the moment I first heard it I was likeโฆ. โUmmmโฆ is the #1 smash in the room with usโ??
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Oct 2, 2024 17:36:34 GMT -5
I still enjoy this and it's a continuation of should I say basically a add on to the Memoirs era.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 2, 2024 17:40:22 GMT -5
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Oct 3, 2024 7:25:31 GMT -5
Happy anniversary ๐
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Oct 3, 2024 16:50:00 GMT -5
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Oct 3, 2024 19:17:47 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 4, 2024 13:34:44 GMT -5
Meanwhile, Grammy submissions are coming out, and apparently Ariana's team didn't submit the "yes and?" remix but did submit "the boy is mine" remix.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Oct 4, 2024 15:48:52 GMT -5
I was too busy blasting it front to back to comment yesterday, but HAPPY ANNIVERSARY to a pivotal album in Pop music. Melodies, vocals and sound choices that have inspired and influenced upcoming artists for an entire generation. A true masterpiece, a gem, a DAYDREAM. I'm so proud of this album.
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Oct 5, 2024 11:39:47 GMT -5
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Oct 5, 2024 18:23:56 GMT -5
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Post by munx ๐๐ฏ on Oct 5, 2024 20:46:15 GMT -5
โWe Belong Togetherโ is really that bitch! ๐ซฐ
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Post by #LisaRinna on Oct 6, 2024 8:06:28 GMT -5
Giving us old Hollywood glamour!
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Post by Push The Button on Oct 6, 2024 8:48:36 GMT -5
Target has a buy 2, get 1 free sale on vinyls this week. If youโre missing any of her vinyls this is probably the best price theyโll ever be.
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Post by ๐บT.A.T.I๐บ on Oct 6, 2024 14:22:13 GMT -5
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Oct 6, 2024 15:10:36 GMT -5
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Oct 6, 2024 17:20:07 GMT -5
So she is performing two songs! Good WBT and DFAU
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Oct 6, 2024 20:15:38 GMT -5
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Oct 6, 2024 20:20:05 GMT -5
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Post by cjay on Oct 6, 2024 20:55:36 GMT -5
Very nice and consistent vocal performance from the queen!
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Post by casperr0430 on Oct 6, 2024 22:05:52 GMT -5
Holy, that was an excellent performance. The adlibs were amazing.
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Post by adamalterlago on Oct 6, 2024 22:14:36 GMT -5
Masterclass. She looks and sounds amazing.
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Post by Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint on Oct 6, 2024 22:20:34 GMT -5
She just proved why We Belong Together is timeless that crowd ATE it up baby
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Oct 7, 2024 0:06:53 GMT -5
The switch ups she added are sublime. WBT has stood the test of time so well.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 7, 2024 7:10:26 GMT -5
The intro clips were great and it was a great performance! I am confused about that small "DFAU" intro, though.
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Post by Eqbk on Oct 7, 2024 9:06:45 GMT -5
The AMA performance has been uploaded to her youtube channel:
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Post by #LisaRinna on Oct 7, 2024 10:24:42 GMT -5
That lower case m looked cheap as fuck!! They should've used the MC logo she had on the 2006 tour. Also where was DFAU?
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