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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 11, 2021 11:49:06 GMT -5
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 11, 2021 15:42:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2021 18:30:05 GMT -5
Mariah a housewife? Over my dead body! Mariah is Mariah not some Bravo housewife fodder! That's Stella who would've booked her by now on one of those shows 🙄
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 11, 2021 18:37:07 GMT -5
Mariah a housewife? Over my dead body! Mariah is Mariah not some Bravo housewife fodder! That's Stella who would've booked her by now on one of those shows 🙄 She's bffs with Andy now.. a little cameo lol |
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Post by cking33 on Jan 12, 2021 2:36:52 GMT -5
cking33 Thank you for posting that podcast! They hit the nail on the head about something I have mentioned in the past and it’s being discussed on this thread. I feel like the major reason people don’t see her as “cool” or whatever that means is because Mariah has always been super girly and feminine. She has albums named Rainbow, Butterfly, Daydream, Emotions, Charmbracelet etc so people have this image of her that’s the opposite of badass and cool. And it’s because of that she’s easily dismissed. There is no doubt in mind Mariah will get inducted in the RnR HOF. Her talent, legacy and her accomplishments are too big to be ignored. You're welcome! I'm glad that this podcast took her credentials and her career seriously and wasn't just some excuse for some people to try and look cool by bashing her for the reasons above. I remember reading all those articles in the late 90s and 2000s that said, "Will Mariah's music actually last?" and of course a lot of those articles went on to conclude that no, it wouldn't. I think we can confidently say 31 years into her career that those articles were a big ol' heaping pile of trash. The podcast did a good job outlining the songs that have stayed on the minds of those who pay attention to music and in giving her credit for her writing and production skills, along with the merging of pop and hip-hop. No matter what way you slice it, she belongs in the Hall of Fame, and this podcast made that very obvious case well, I thought. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 8:04:37 GMT -5
Weird correlation but between her book and the freedom it gave her and her opening up and expressing how freeing doing alt rock album was for her soul. I wonder what can music a newly more confident and free Mariah will do post The Meaning of Mariah. I dont know she may stick to what has clearly worked but maybe she at that point of experimenting more now knowing the public wont be jarred hearing her dibble and dabble in whatever she wants.
The reaction to her alt rock album was so positive it's basically a licence for her to do whatever the hell she wants.
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Post by Dreams on Jan 12, 2021 22:10:48 GMT -5
New pic of Mariah shopping at a Louis Vuitton store in Aspen:  I'm surprised she's not back home in NY or LA. |
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Post by Dreams on Jan 13, 2021 8:08:45 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 13, 2021 8:41:10 GMT -5
Mariah is a mess for what she said about Caution.
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Post by keeptheflowers on Jan 13, 2021 8:58:01 GMT -5
A lot of us love Caution as it is but the fact that she felt the album could've been better is.... amazing to me. Again it shows her meticulousness and passion for her music and fans. I hope she knows how much we love it. I think she does.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 9:15:36 GMT -5
Mariah is a perfectionist so not surprised at all. Rushed for her but long time waiting for us!
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 13, 2021 9:19:09 GMT -5
A lot of us love Caution as it is but the fact that she felt the album could've been better is.... amazing to me. Again it shows her meticulousness and passion for her music and fans. I hope she knows how much we love it. I think she does. Her idea of perfectionism kind be over-the-top, though. Remember her crying on the bathroom floor about a random note in "The Art of Letting Go" that none of us even noticed? |
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Post by die Lotterie on Jan 13, 2021 9:20:57 GMT -5
A lot of us love Caution as it is but the fact that she felt the album could've been better is.... amazing to me. Again it shows her meticulousness and passion for her music and fans. I hope she knows how much we love it. I think she does. Her idea of perfectionism kind be over-the-top, though. Remember her crying on the bathroom floor about a random note in "The Art of Letting Go" that none of us even noticed? No, lol. 8 years later and I'm still out of the loop. What was it? |
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Post by schnetzka on Jan 13, 2021 9:31:51 GMT -5
How can a 10-song album being released four year after her previous album be rushed? I wonder what the outcome would have been if she started recording earlier.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Jan 13, 2021 9:41:23 GMT -5
How can a 10-song album being released four year after her previous album be rushed? I wonder what the outcome would have been if she started recording earlier. Just cause she took 4 years to release doesn’t mean she recorded Caution for 4 years. She most likely started writing and recording all within a year. |
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Post by theedge12 on Jan 13, 2021 9:55:08 GMT -5
How can a 10-song album being released four year after her previous album be rushed? I wonder what the outcome would have been if she started recording earlier. I think she’s saying it was rushed because they put out multiple singles before the album was even out. I agree with her. It seems like most artists do that now, and you hear half the album before any song can even gain traction. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 13, 2021 10:17:23 GMT -5
How can a 10-song album being released four year after her previous album be rushed? I wonder what the outcome would have been if she started recording earlier. I think she’s saying it was rushed because they put out multiple singles before the album was even out. I agree with her. It seems like most artists do that now, and you hear half the album before any song can even gain traction. They put out multiple songs, not singles. Mariah makes it seem like she wanted "With You" as a lead single with nothing else released ahead of the album. That's a no no. People would have been even less excited for the album based on "With You" only. "GTFO" and "The Distance" were well-received by critics and got away from the 'ballad with a beat' formula. die Lotterie Mariah made a facebook post back in 2013 where she said someone hit a wrong button and uploaded the wrong version of "TAOLG." She was crying in the bathroom or something. The only difference in the versions was some random whistle note or something. It seems like the actual post has been deleted, but here is an article about it. |
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jan 13, 2021 10:18:56 GMT -5
The only thing I will agree with her regarding Caution is the vocals. They definitely could have been better. I know her experience recording it is completely different than the final product, but nothing about that album felt rushed to me at all. Not the launch or the music itself.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 13, 2021 10:23:23 GMT -5
The only thing I will agree with her regarding Caution is the vocals. They definitely could have been better. I know her experience recording it is completely different than the final product, but nothing about that album felt rushed to me at all. Not the launch or the music itself. Do you think her vocals sound rough? I think the vocals on Caution sound great on the whole. The nice part is the songs sit comfortably in her current voice. She didn't try to overdo it or do things that she now struggles with. The album isn't a vocal showcase, but that's why they work for this particular album IMO. The only bad part of the album release is that it was during the holiday season, meaning Mariah competed with her holiday music. It might have been better to release it Q1 2019. |
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jan 13, 2021 10:27:42 GMT -5
The only thing I will agree with her regarding Caution is the vocals. They definitely could have been better. I know her experience recording it is completely different than the final product, but nothing about that album felt rushed to me at all. Not the launch or the music itself. Do you think her vocals sound rough? I think the vocals on Caution sound great on the whole. The nice part is the songs sit comfortably in her current voice. She didn't try to overdo it or do things that she now struggles with. The album isn't a vocal showcase, but that's why they work for this particular album IMO. Yeah, her vocals were definitely weak on some tracks. And she's proven time and time again post Caution with all of her live performances that she could have done better. But her voice always tends to be stronger when she's singing regularly, which I don't think was the case when recording that album. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 13, 2021 10:28:44 GMT -5
The only thing I will agree with her regarding Caution is the vocals. They definitely could have been better. I know her experience recording it is completely different than the final product, but nothing about that album felt rushed to me at all. Not the launch or the music itself. Do you think her vocals sound rough? I think the vocals on Caution sound great on the whole. The nice part is the songs sit comfortably in her current voice. She didn't try to overdo it or do things that she now struggles with. The album isn't a vocal showcase, but that's why they work for this particular album IMO. More so some people complain that the belting on "With You" and especially "Portrait" is thin and strained, and the same about her at home performances and "Save the Day." Not sure how people are gonna complain about the vocals on Caution and think we'd get higher or more powerful vocals otherwise. |
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Post by Leigh on Jan 13, 2021 10:48:28 GMT -5
Her idea of perfectionism kind be over-the-top, though. Remember her crying on the bathroom floor about a random note in "The Art of Letting Go" that none of us even noticed? No, lol. 8 years later and I'm still out of the loop. What was it? How did you miss the tale of the new sound engineer whose only job was to press the spacebar ?!!! |
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Jan 13, 2021 11:35:29 GMT -5
Honestly, I enjoyed her vocals on Caution. I think the roughness in places like Giving Me Life added to the performance. I was a bit confused by all of the songs she introduced as teasers. I wish she had done a song like Caution, The Distance, or A No No as the lead and followed it up with whichever one of those three she didn’t choose as a lead single. I wonder how much the MIAM roll out and delays weighed on her mind as she was making Caution. Clearly, she may have been trying to avoid that type of scenario by promising something and delaying it by a significant amount of time. I think Mariah not taking as much time as she would have liked on this album had its pros and cons. I sometimes feel when she has too much time to think about things that is when she overcooks things. I think she got more right then she got wrong with this rush and made an enjoyable album.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 13, 2021 11:51:08 GMT -5
Honestly, I enjoyed her vocals on Caution. I think the roughness in places like Giving Me Life added to the performance. I was a bit confused by all of the songs she introduced as teasers. I wish she had done a song like Caution, The Distance, or A No No as the lead and followed it up with whichever one of those three she didn’t choose as a lead single. I wonder how much the MIAM roll out and delays weighed on her mind as she was making Caution. Clearly, she may have been trying to avoid that type of scenario by promising something and delaying it by a significant amount of time. I think Mariah not taking as much time as she would have liked on this album had its pros and cons. I sometimes feel when she has too much time to think about things that is when she overcooks things. I think she got more right then she got wrong with this rush and made an enjoyable album. Yeah, Mariah delayed every studio album she did with IDJ because of her perfectionism or whatever. The delays hurt all of those albums except TEOM. Meanwhile, Mariah also said on the Podcast that Divas Live was to initially have she and Aretha duet on "Dreamlover." Wow, I wish we'd gotten that one. |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 13, 2021 13:13:16 GMT -5
I'm sorry but Mariah is completely delusional if she thinks she can make another MIAM after 9 years and sustain it vocally. If the new versions of OHN and JTTW she recorded for Apple are anything to go by, she should just stay away from high pitched songs and write for her midrange.
Yes Caution didn't have any big vocal moments, but it's not like the songs required them. And we loved it for that reason. Mariah's vocal talent is so much more than just belting and whistles, I wish she'd stop listening to these lambs telling her "oh! We need the beltz!" We don't. We need comfortable and clear singing and emotional attachment, nuances.
The fact that she still associates relinquishing some control to making a "bad/less than" album is disappointing. Mariah knows the industry in 2018 or 2021 is different than how it was 15 years ago. She knows that she needs to keep her ear on the streets if she wants to stay somewhat relevant and yet she thinks giving more control to new producers is a bad thing. I'm disappointed tbh. I thought she had learned some lessons from the colossal flop that MIAM was. Now that's an album she should go back to and think what went wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 15:14:55 GMT -5
I hope Mariah realizes that Caution was the reason she reached her third career peak in 2019-20. It acted like a Charmbracelet type album where it was so good and low-key with amazing interviews that it opened people’s mind up to a new mimi era. She’s been #1 on the Hot 100 for five weeks since Caution.
Caution is her best rated album and maybe that had to do with it being less in your face or maybe it was because she worked with someone new and fresh on each song. Or maybe it had to do with being “rushed”.
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