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Post by Bojangles on Dec 4, 2014 12:02:43 GMT -5
That really wasn't too good, but it wasn't a complete disaster either.
I think it's not a disaster to us because we follow her performances and know she's sounded worse, however, to the general public who don't follow her like we do, I can see why they and the media are going in.
Big singers like Mariah are held up to a high standard, so when they have multiple off notes in one performance, that will definitely be talked about by the media.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 4, 2014 12:07:30 GMT -5
The press and other haters can suck it. It wasn't an A performance, but it wasn't an F either. Yes Mariah is held to a higher standard, but even when she's great they don't praise her to the extent they rip her when she's a little off. This performance does not deserve the level of criticism it's getting.
Also someone who was at the taping on Tuesday said Idina Menzel messed up things and did re-takes, as did Seth on his song. Mariah didn't get that benefit. Idina also messed up her big note at the Oscars and people didn't beg her to retire.
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Post by surfy on Dec 4, 2014 12:09:35 GMT -5
When you set the bar high for yourself... you have a lot of expectations and eyes are on you all the time. That's why the press is always ripping on her. It's not always right, but it is what it is.
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Post by xxzion72xx on Dec 4, 2014 12:16:46 GMT -5
Coco?... The thread title changes week too week...should the next one be called insecurity?
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Post by QAF on Dec 4, 2014 12:17:33 GMT -5
I just came across poll about whether or not folks that the performance was good or bad and it's at 100% bad.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Dec 4, 2014 12:25:06 GMT -5
Coco?... The thread title changes week too week...should the next one be called insecurity? It's an ongoing joke between Coco and Kunt with the Britney thread. Sit down and have several seats dahhhhling.
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Post by August on Dec 4, 2014 12:34:32 GMT -5
Mariah's Isolated VocalsFor Mariah, it is awful...for the average person who can sort of carry a tune, its great. But come on folks, don't be deaf to the way she sounded just because you are mega-fans. I love Mariah and think she does some great stuff, this just isn't it. I am a huge Madonna fan and I can admit there are times when the girl has flopped.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 12:38:28 GMT -5
Mariah's Isolated VocalsFor Mariah, it is awful...for the average person who can sort of carry a tune, its great. But come on folks, don't be deaf to the way she sounded just because you are mega-fans. I love Mariah and think she does some great stuff, this just isn't it. I am a huge Madonna fan and I can admit there are times when the girl has flopped. Love Mariah, but damn. This is why I only stick to watching performances from her prime days as a vocal Godess.
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Post by dbhmr on Dec 4, 2014 12:39:25 GMT -5
The press and other haters can suck it. It wasn't an A performance, but it wasn't an F either. Yes Mariah is held to a higher standard, but even when she's great they don't praise her to the extent they rip her when she's a little off. This performance does not deserve the level of criticism it's getting. Also someone who was at the taping on Tuesday said Idina Menzel messed up things and did re-takes, as did Seth on his song. Mariah didn't get that benefit. Idina also messed up her big note at the Oscars and people didn't beg her to retire. Mariah didn't get that benefit because she was late. And I don't get the Idina argument--she was never nor will ever be as famous as Mariah Carey. Their careers are totally different, and Idina's voice was never as good as Mariah's. But maybe if Mariah had John Travolta introduce her with a hilariously butchered name, people would be focusing on that instead of the performance, as with Idina and the Oscars (for which she should thank her lucky stars). Mariah's fans' life work is fighting to keep her on this untouchable pedestal, and then are shocked when the rest of the world holds her to that.
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 4, 2014 12:39:35 GMT -5
That really wasn't good. She had some sweet moments, but I don't see how anyone can sit here and defend those (literal) squeals when she went for those high notes. Her voice is shot. Sad, but true.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Dec 4, 2014 13:06:13 GMT -5
Yeah, the performance WAS NOT good. At all. I can't defend it as a fan or as a casual listener either. It was hard to watch. She looked so tortured and uncomfortable and that just made it worse. I don't think any of the negative reviews are out of line.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Dec 4, 2014 13:16:22 GMT -5
Yikes. Her head voice is completely gone. Judging by her reaction and ripping off the earpeice, she knew exactly how bad it was too.
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Post by Mean A$$ on Dec 4, 2014 13:18:25 GMT -5
Did I miss something? Are you all deaf? If ya'll think Mariah sounds bad, then you must also think all the other singers of the world sound worse. Cause even on a bad day, Mariah sounds an infinity times better than those skanks running around on awards shows gyrating their naked asses together. Or maybe thats it. Maybe ya'll cant recognize true talent unless they are half naked gyrating their asses together. Every person who thinks that was an awful performance needs to move to Antartica. ANd take NIck Cannon with you. And all those other skanks who call themselves singers. PUh-lease.
Just look back to her most recent tour footage.
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 4, 2014 13:20:10 GMT -5
Just look back to her most recent tour footage. This doesn't help your case. The performance was poor. Sorry.
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Post by theedge12 on Dec 4, 2014 13:21:57 GMT -5
She's just had many concerts where she proved she could sing!! Mimi ain't worried!!!
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Post by Dreams on Dec 4, 2014 13:23:10 GMT -5
What's strange to me is that folks are bashing this performance, when it's not even the horrid mess it's being made out to be. Lol. Literally, besides two bum spots, it was fine and I think she sang in her mid-range with more ease than she's had in years (it's hilarious how until recently she struggled with her mid-range, but not the upper parts... and it's the other way around now. Her voice really is a mystery). She sounded like s**t on the opening night of her last tour, so to my ears the harsh criticsm then was totally justified.
And, 14887fan, I don't think there's anyone who still thinks her voice is what it used to be.
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Post by musiclover98 on Dec 4, 2014 13:40:59 GMT -5
I find it shocking that this particular performance is getting so much attention. Mariah has done much worse on live television in the past. Like I said before, the performance was decent. Her falsetto obviously wasn't all there. And yes she avoided belting. Her voice cracked two times I believe, and she sang out of key twice. Ok??? That gets all this attention? She has done so much worse. It's quite obvious that the press has turned on Mariah and because people allow themselves to be controlled by the media, they have followed behind them. The isolated audio revealed nothing new that couldn't be heard on the full performance. These hateful people need to go find life and stop fishing for things that simply aren't there. Mariah is only appreciated in Australia I guess. They seemed to love her over there.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Dec 4, 2014 13:43:39 GMT -5
I dunno but y'all, but to say someone's voice is "shot" implies that the person can't sing at all. CLEARLY that is not the case, as Mariah proves TIME AND TIME again. Oh...and I will NEVER defend Nick Cannon again after he retweeted that post. "Comedian" aside, this is the mother of your children that you professed your undying love to before God and family and the whole world. Have some fucking class. Keep posting like that and that screenname of yours will be on ITS death bed. Differing opinions are acceptable, but personal comments like this are not. Obviously, constructive comments would have been better than such provocative, insubstantial statements like that "death bed" one, but please refrain from personally targeting fellow posters. My bad. I didn't mean it to sound like I was threatening HIM as a person. More like: I saw the makings of a troll and I wanted to let him know that trolling is not acceptable and he would get the boot but yeah, I know it didn't come across too well. She was terrible. She sounded like she was on her death bed. Do you even know that someone on their Death bed won't even have the strength to whisper? WTH? THIS, however, put ME on MY deathbed. I legit LOL'd. The press and other haters can suck it. It wasn't an A performance, but it wasn't an F either. Yes Mariah is held to a higher standard, but even when she's great they don't praise her to the extent they rip her when she's a little off. This performance does not deserve the level of criticism it's getting. Also someone who was at the taping on Tuesday said Idina Menzel messed up things and did re-takes, as did Seth on his song. Mariah didn't get that benefit. Idina also messed up her big note at the Oscars and people didn't beg her to retire. That is PRECISELY what happened. I was there during Seth's recording and they did several takes. Mariah would have had the benefit too if she was able to tape the prior night, as previously scheduled. We ALL know what Mariah sounds like when she is in her element. Do I REALLY need to dig up those impromptu jazz performances from those small cocktail bars or whatever?
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Dec 4, 2014 13:50:18 GMT -5
Did Nick really retweeted that? I don't see it on his twitter page
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Post by surfy on Dec 4, 2014 13:52:18 GMT -5
Did Nick really retweeted that? I don't see it on his twitter page Favorited I think
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Dec 4, 2014 13:53:52 GMT -5
Did Nick really retweeted that? I don't see it on his twitter page Favorited I think Oh my bad. Just saw that. Thanks! Wow, I mean that's low, even for him.
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Post by kmbgs on Dec 4, 2014 13:55:17 GMT -5
I agree that her performance is getting undeserved hate, but let's not kid ourselves and hold her in the same standard of performing abilities as the creator of Family Guy. You, me, and the hobo down the street are in his league. Mariah is in a different one and will and should be judged on an entirely different curve.
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Post by Mean A$$ on Dec 4, 2014 13:55:54 GMT -5
Just look back to her most recent tour footage. This doesn't help your case. The performance was poor. Sorry. No boo, I'm sorry you can't recognize true talent and that your obviously deaf.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Dec 4, 2014 13:59:40 GMT -5
After hearing the isolated vocals, it changes my view of the performance a bit. Before hearing it, I thought her vocal was kinda mediocre but passable. But her voice is truly fragile. She barely had control of her voice. It wasn't completely terrible, but it wasn't anywhere near good either. I do think the media reaction to her performances are a bit ott (especially considering Taylor "Non-singing ass" Swift is huge, and Mariah has been giving mediocre live vocals for years now).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 14:09:58 GMT -5
This doesn't help your case. The performance was poor. Sorry. No boo, I'm sorry you can't recognize true talent and that your obviously deaf. Someone is in denial. Mariah was terrible.
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Post by Mean A$$ on Dec 4, 2014 14:22:35 GMT -5
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Post by toomuchboy on Dec 4, 2014 14:33:12 GMT -5
I didn't think she was great, but for her age and the environment, I thought it was okay.
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Post by divasummer on Dec 4, 2014 14:39:44 GMT -5
Maybe it's because I follow Mariah and have heard most of her past performances but I don't think it was that bad. Her falcetto/head voice was a little shot but her chest voice was ok. I would give it a B-.
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Post by inclinations on Dec 4, 2014 14:45:46 GMT -5
People are just being melodramatic queens, Mariah may not be on top of her game with this performance, but she was fine.
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Post by theedge12 on Dec 4, 2014 15:09:18 GMT -5
Let's here the live mic performances of the rest of them....
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