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Post by wavey.β¨οΈ on Jan 30, 2015 15:46:26 GMT -5
She'll get good treatment with LA. The rollout of singles shouldn't be so horrible this time.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 30, 2015 16:10:59 GMT -5
I do think the motivation to prove herself and the fact that this deal was modest will give her more motivation to work hard. Not that she doesn't work hard, but now she has objectives to fulfill again.
And I'm not worried about her not getting a huge advance. I remember reading Madonna is getting a $1 million or sth like that advance on Interscope. So it's not like labels are investing huge money on divas past their prime. It's normal.
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Post by spooky21 on Jan 30, 2015 16:11:57 GMT -5
LA is good as a musician who Mariah can count on to challenge her music and artistic choices but let's not wilfully forget that as the label head, they butted head on single choices throughout his Def Jam tenure. I would argue that after WBT, the single choices, or order of choices, were all pretty much terrible with the exception of TMB.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 16:22:27 GMT -5
LA is good as a musician who Mariah can count on to challenge her music and artistic choices but let's not wilfully forget that as the label head, they butted head on single choices throughout his Def Jam tenure. I would argue that after WBT, the single choices, or order of choices, were all pretty much terrible with the exception of TMB. LA wanted "Im that chick" at first. What if in 2008 Mariah released an entirely "uptempo" album with NO BALLADS. How would've that changed fate? (first off there would've been no bye bye as the single ) People would've viewed Mariah way different (maybe even a reinvention) in '08. -for purposes here I'll borrow some tracks from '09s memoirs as she doesn't have enough "up" tempo songs: E=MC2 (the blacksheep of the discography) 1. Migrate (feat. Tpain) 2. Touch My Body 3. Obsessed 4. Cruise Control (feat. Damain Marley) 5. I'm That Chick 6. Side Effects (feat. Young Jeezy) 7. Standing O 8. I'll Be Loving You Long Time 9. Ribbon 10. O.O.C. 11. More Then Just Friends 12. Skydiving How would your up/mid tempo only E=MC2 tracklist go?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 19:42:47 GMT -5
Bye Bye, not Glitter, was her nadir
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 31, 2015 6:33:55 GMT -5
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Post by bunifah on Jan 31, 2015 6:40:54 GMT -5
Im watching a couple of videos and reviews from fans for her Jamaican set and well she really HAS to get it together and step up in 4 months for Vegas. People are going hard on her vocals and attitude. She has to remember it will be an American crowd she'll be playing and if she keeps on putting a half assed show and with nt proper vocal delivery, people will be OUT FOR BLOOD
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Post by MFM29 on Jan 31, 2015 8:30:11 GMT -5
she cant even lipssync lol
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 31, 2015 8:52:51 GMT -5
she cant even lipssync lol LOL her sound equipment is Always a mess.
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Post by weaver on Jan 31, 2015 9:05:27 GMT -5
LA is good as a musician who Mariah can count on to challenge her music and artistic choices but let's not wilfully forget that as the label head, they butted head on single choices throughout his Def Jam tenure. I would argue that after WBT, the single choices, or order of choices, were all pretty much terrible with the exception of TMB. LA wanted "Im that chick" at first. What if in 2008 Mariah released an entirely "uptempo" album with NO BALLADS. How would've that changed fate? (first off there would've been no bye bye as the single ) People would've viewed Mariah way different (maybe even a reinvention) in '08. -for purposes here I'll borrow some tracks from '09s memoirs as she doesn't have enough "up" tempo songs: E=MC2 (the blacksheep of the discography) 1. Migrate (feat. Tpain) 2. Touch My Body 3. Obsessed 4. Cruise Control (feat. Damain Marley) 5. I'm That Chick 6. Side Effects (feat. Young Jeezy) 7. Standing O 8. I'll Be Loving You Long Time 9. Ribbon 10. O.O.C. 11. More Then Just Friends 12. Skydiving How would your up/mid tempo only E=MC2 tracklist go? People's heads would explode if she ever did a whole album with no ballads...lol...I think if she had not been stuck on releasing the ballads from E=MC as singles, since they were mostly inferior to the uptempos on that album, she would have had more success. But it's a fun idea, so here's mine: Migrate Obsessed Cruise Control I'm That Chick Side Effects Touch My Body More Than Just Friends I'll Be Lovin U Long Time Up Out My Face Ribbon It's A Wrap Not sure about the order...hard to sequence it without ballads!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 9:07:12 GMT -5
It is clear she did not give a f**k about this event. She'd better get her lip sync game right for Vegas.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 9:22:14 GMT -5
LA wanted "Im that chick" at first. What if in 2008 Mariah released an entirely "uptempo" album with NO BALLADS. How would've that changed fate? (first off there would've been no bye bye as the single ) People would've viewed Mariah way different (maybe even a reinvention) in '08. -for purposes here I'll borrow some tracks from '09s memoirs as she doesn't have enough "up" tempo songs: E=MC2 (the blacksheep of the discography) 1. Migrate (feat. Tpain) 2. Touch My Body 3. Obsessed 4. Cruise Control (feat. Damain Marley) 5. I'm That Chick 6. Side Effects (feat. Young Jeezy) 7. Standing O 8. I'll Be Loving You Long Time 9. Ribbon 10. O.O.C. 11. More Then Just Friends 12. Skydiving How would your up/mid tempo only E=MC2 tracklist go? People's heads would explode if she ever did a whole album with no ballads...lol...I think if she had not been stuck on releasing the ballads from E=MC as singles, since they were mostly inferior to the uptempos on that album, she would have had more success. But it's a fun idea, so here's mine: Migrate Obsessed Cruise Control I'm That Chick Side Effects Touch My Body More Than Just Friends I'll Be Lovin U Long Time Up Out My Face Ribbon It's A Wrap Not sure about the order...hard to sequence it without ballads! Nice! I would just swap IAW for OOC or 4real4real (cuz IAW treads dangerously close to ballad territory). I actually think had she done this in 2008 (at the age of 38) and released four Hot uptempo singles at the time she could have totally re-invented her image and maybe people would think she's cooler now as a result of 2008's work. Sure she would eventually release an album with Ballads again (because she's Mariah) but it would've been a totally shocker at the time and something completely new. And she was young enough (and hot enough) to pull it off. If I was LA Reid or Benny Medina at the time I would've strongly suggested doing a bizarro-Mariah album.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 31, 2015 9:40:22 GMT -5
It is clear she did not give a f**k about this event. She'd better get her lip sync game right for Vegas. LOL She was in her own world for that song, she didn't even listen to the track. She did sing live most of the remaining time though. And she was in fine voice.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 16:31:29 GMT -5
She walked off stage before "We Belong Together" was even over last night.
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Post by wavey.β¨οΈ on Jan 31, 2015 17:05:21 GMT -5
Oop. Thinking of Nick moment?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 17:20:59 GMT -5
Mariah Carey just don't give no fucks lmfao she is like im not even going to bother
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 31, 2015 17:21:58 GMT -5
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Post by die Lotterie on Jan 31, 2015 17:22:50 GMT -5
I like some of those ad-libbed moments. What is she singing at 1:09?
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 31, 2015 18:27:55 GMT -5
That "colder than myself" adlib she sang on the bridge of "Always Be My Baby" got me thinking about how she must be feeling right now. I'd just love to hug her :'(
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Post by musiclover98 on Jan 31, 2015 20:19:30 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks Mariah looks incredibly sad in all of these performances? I love the vocal moments in ABMB. But her disposition is one of extreme sadness. She looks like she is mentally checked out. I hope she takes a break and regroups. She needs to get ahold of herself. Her mental health is much more important to me than any of this other stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 20:32:56 GMT -5
She does seem a little down but we need not revisit the "Mariah is an alcoholic and I know this because there's a glass of champagne in her Instagram picture" school of thinking. She looked radiant and beaming on Ellen the other day and she could just be having an off week.
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Post by lancey on Jan 31, 2015 21:46:12 GMT -5
Hmmm maybe I will wait to see her in July instead of May.. she's a vocal mess right now...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 22:21:01 GMT -5
^ You should know Mariah knows when to clean up her act, get her image right (idol, ellen) . Avoid Day 1 just incase but after that she will be put on the best show she can muster up. She will take Vegas serious and in intimate settings like that play into her strengths.
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Post by @DjKingBee on Jan 31, 2015 22:45:45 GMT -5
No cruise control ???? I was sure she'd do that in Jamaica
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Jan 31, 2015 23:42:36 GMT -5
I doubt even LA Reid will let her slack off in Vegas. That is a good way to revamp her image. I am sure he will have a hand in that venture to make sure she is putting her best foot forward. Vegas is too important to screw up if she wants to have any shot at reassembling where she can go with her career and her image with people.
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Post by spooky21 on Feb 1, 2015 2:34:00 GMT -5
She seemed really off. What was up with all the random running to the back of that stage and then turning to pose?
Something wasn't right but let's hope it was just a lil moment of contact where purple trees blow.......
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Feb 1, 2015 2:36:39 GMT -5
I doubt even LA Reid will let her slack off in Vegas. That is a good way to revamp her image. I am sure he will have a hand in that venture to make sure she is putting her best foot forward. Vegas is too important to screw up if she wants to have any shot at reassembling where she can go with her career and her image with people. Agreed and as part of that, they are going to try like heck to have the first single from #1s (2015) try to get to #1 somehow. Can you imagine the positive publicity to kick off the show? Mariah returns to #1 before her #1s Vegas show. I know it's highly unlikely, but I can't imagine them not doing something extreme; otherwise, you're trying to sell the album and the show with the 'newest' song being more than 7 (almost 8) years old. That's a lifetime in music. (Consider she had her first 12 number 1s during that same time frame.)
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 1, 2015 8:31:55 GMT -5
It would take one of those miracles talked about in "When You Believe" to land a Hot 100 No. 1. But, that goes for a number of acts, so that's here nor there.
The first No. 1s album didn't even have a new No. 1, and that was when Mariah was on fiyah commercially. Her last multi-radio-format-promoted single peaked at No. 88- if she can get a new top 40 hit- optimistically, top 20 at best (using "#Beautiful" as a guide), that would be triumphant (can't fall dooowwwwnnnn...)
In any event, like other acts who've had multiple compilations released through the years, it's not like the new release is expected to be a big seller. Its main purpose looks to be to raise awareness for and support the residency, which is not dependent on new hits.
I hope she delivers full-on performances of the neglected No. 1s (hopefully not lip-synched) in the residency shows. If she performs "Love Takes Time" and "Someday" in full, close to the original arrangements, I know the goosebumps will be a-comin'.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 8:52:48 GMT -5
I doubt even LA Reid will let her slack off in Vegas. That is a good way to revamp her image. I am sure he will have a hand in that venture to make sure she is putting her best foot forward. Vegas is too important to screw up if she wants to have any shot at reassembling where she can go with her career and her image with people. Agreed and as part of that, they are going to try like heck to have the first single from #1s (2015) try to get to #1 somehow. Can you imagine the positive publicity to kick off the show? Mariah returns to #1 before her #1s Vegas show. I know it's highly unlikely, but I can't imagine them not doing something extreme; otherwise, you're trying to sell the album and the show with the 'newest' song being more than 7 (almost 8) years old. That's a lifetime in music. (Consider she had her first 12 number 1s during that same time frame.) ^ That would be great if that was in their plan. But she has a lot of ground work to do to go #1 with a song by May! The song would have to be an out of the box hit but even then public image is crucial for #1 hits and Mariah just aint got it right now. Remember the year long work (post "I Know What You Want") to get her in place and even then "ILT" only went to #16 on the Hot 100. It finally clicked with "WBT". She could go top 10 with a lot of work. As for Vegas, they eat up that old time act so it's not out of the question that she'll do well just being a "throwback act" .
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Post by MFM29 on Feb 1, 2015 9:08:13 GMT -5
maybe she can come up with someone like you/all of me type of song very raw and honest about her break up, and people can feel empathy for her, especially if she let her emotions shows on live performances
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