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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 8, 2015 9:50:57 GMT -5
It would be OK to perform "Love Takes Time" and "I Don't Wanna Cry" in medley form, but do a good chunk of both. "Someday" should have the full treatment, in all its sass-and-attitude glory.
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Post by MiniMusic on Feb 8, 2015 10:41:14 GMT -5
Is there a reason she hates Someday so much? I just discovered the song a few months ago and it's literally one of my favorite songs, ever.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 8, 2015 11:00:02 GMT -5
Is there a reason she hates Someday so much? I just discovered the song a few months ago and it's literally one of my favorite songs, ever. She thinks it (like a lot of the debut) was over-produced. She may have issues with her co-writers/co-producers as well (well, we know she has issues with Ben Margulies, and notice the only song she wrote with him that she still sometimes performs is "Vision of Love"). We also know Nick loves "Someday" and it bugged her, so now with them having split it probably bugs her even more. But, yeah, it's the song is terrific. It's one of her sassier songs, the melody is killer, and it has urban elements with the breakdown and the new jack swing elements. It could easily be re-arranged in a lot of ways. I am sure she could think of a sample to use behind it to change it up like she did with "Dreamlover."
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Post by MFM29 on Feb 8, 2015 12:01:03 GMT -5
well she's just stupid. someday and love takes time is miles better than TMB and DFAU that she loves so much
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Feb 8, 2015 12:50:13 GMT -5
Ugh, it would literally be the most epic thing if there was silence in the auditorium, and the lights immediately fixed on mariah and she began singing
Maybe now you just can't conceive, that there'll ever come a time when you're cold and lonely
I would probably poop my pants.
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Post by MiniMusic on Feb 8, 2015 13:26:47 GMT -5
Yeah like I'm genuinely annoyed at her for that. How could someone with such a great ear for music and talent for it honestly want to perform something like TMB over Someday? Bye Mariah
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 13:46:37 GMT -5
I like Someday but it was never a song i went back to listen to unless it came on. I never seek it out and its not one of my favorites from her but i like it and i like it now for nostalgia.
I'd rather her find a way to do Breakdown or The Roof non lipped than Someday tbh
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Post by die Lotterie on Feb 8, 2015 13:57:33 GMT -5
"Someday" is great and everything, but honestly I would rather listen to "Touch My Body" any day of the week. +10 for Gyrffindor for the Seamus Haji & Paul Emanuel Remix.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 13:58:06 GMT -5
Someday is my favorite Mariah song
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 8, 2015 14:07:00 GMT -5
^One of mine, as well. Her catalog is pretty short on sassy, though, so maybe she just prefers less sassy material.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Feb 8, 2015 14:41:12 GMT -5
At a concert, I would much rather see Someday performed. I'll listen to touch my body before bed.
Let's have a prayer circle for SOMEDAY.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 14:42:06 GMT -5
At a concert, I would much rather see Someday performed. I'll listen to touch my body before bed. The few times I listened to Touch My Body in bed i never really went to sleep.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Feb 8, 2015 14:46:58 GMT -5
At a concert, I would much rather see Someday performed. I'll listen to touch my body before bed. The few times I listened to Touch My Body in bed i never really went to sleep. I guess to me, Touch My Body lacks energy and mariah running across the stage and flailing her hands to the climax of the song doesn't add any to it. Someday was probably the first time I took notice of Mariah. I thought she was so pretty, absolutely loved the song and was astonished by her voice. I loved the "rap" part and It's just a lot more fun to me. And the climax is one of my favorites in a Mariah song SOME DAY! SOME DAY! yeaaaah awww yea-eah-eah you're gonna be wishin for me! Oh, for me for me for me for me for me yeaaah oh yeaah hey my baby WOO! some day some day some some some day yeah THE ONE YOU GAVE AWAY WILL BE THE ONLY ONE! SOME*high note*DAAAAAAAAAAAAY--slayed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 14:53:39 GMT -5
^^ U missed my point about TMB i have not liked one performance of it outside of maybe that (Hills performance years ago) It's not a good live song, i just like the song in a sexual way! or a laid back flow kinda way or while riding around.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 14:55:48 GMT -5
It's odd because out of all her older tracks pre- Daydream that she doesn't perform anymore the only one I would personally want is "Can't Let Go" I just find that to be her most beautiful composition, melody and truest to her from her older ballads that she doesn't perform.
It's R&B to the core just like Vision of Love whenever i hear that it just screams old school Mariah! Its head and shoulders a superior song to me than say Hero or Love Takes Time
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Post by HolidayGuy on Feb 8, 2015 15:08:25 GMT -5
CLG is a goodie, but I like LTT a tad more. There's just something special about that song. And it was the first lost-love/heartbreak song that much of the general public first heard (that didn't have or hear the album up to that point).
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Post by Mack on Feb 8, 2015 15:48:28 GMT -5
Yeah, 'Love Takes Time' is really good.
Mariah has such an awesome singles catalog, probably the strongest out of any artist of the last two decades.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 16:04:52 GMT -5
I'd say the lack of excitement about performing "Someday" has to do with the Taylor Dayne-esque (dare I say, borderline Brenda K. Starr-ish) production of the album version, and more importantly, sharing royalties with Ben Margulies. "Vision Of Love" has had to stay on her setlists, but giving up "Someday" and "Loves Takes Time" was do-able.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 8, 2015 16:27:09 GMT -5
^^ U missed my point about TMB i have not liked one performance of it outside of maybe that (Hills performance years ago) It's not a good live song, i just like the song in a sexual way! or a laid back flow kinda way or while riding around. I think that's about the live arrangement, though. The song doesn't work in a live setting when Mariah just sings to a backing track, but when a band is involved it can have life. It's similar to "Shake It Off." Think about the Today performance of "TMB" from last year; that was pretty strong. I liked the short clip of it from the MTV commercials, too, where Mariah performed with the live band. "Touch My Body" is a pretty tight song, too. It has a nice melody, and the song is more complex than it first seems. Regardless, it doesn't need to be an either/or with "Someday." Plus, I think a lot of Mariah's preferring to perform "SIO," "DFAU," "TMB," etc. has as much to do with her wanting to be seen as current/relevant than it does anything else. Mariah wants people to remember she's had recent hits (though "recent" is getting farther and farther behind us) as opposed to thinking she's a '90s relic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 18:09:02 GMT -5
When is the last time Mariah attended the Grammys?
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Post by MFM29 on Feb 8, 2015 18:47:21 GMT -5
it's just getting frustating to watch the grammy and think about Mariah situation. Toni Braxton who last hit was like what, in the 90's? just won a fkn grammy, rihanna won her 8th grammy (and she's one of the most sucessful singers with no talent imo) and Mariah can't even get a single nomination since DFAU (which I think she got just because the hype left from TEOM). it's just frustating bc she's one of the most talent singers out all and writes and produce all of her songs. urrrgh
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Post by theedge12 on Feb 8, 2015 19:06:02 GMT -5
it's just getting frustating to watch the grammy and think about Mariah situation. Toni Braxton who last hit was like what, in the 90's? just won a fkn grammy, rihanna won her 8th grammy (and she's one of the most sucessful singers with no talent imo) and Mariah can't even get a single nomination since DFAU (which I think she got just because the hype left from TEOM). it's just frustating bc she's one of the most talent singers out all and writes and produce all of her songs. urrrgh Her latest album definitely deserved some love!! I guess they only nominate her when they are forced to because of sales. I think ever since mariah got snubbed for the daydream album she hasn't really cared about them that's why she don't attend. She's done fine without there pointless award show!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 19:26:24 GMT -5
When is the last time Mariah attended the Grammys? The last she won 3 but should have won more 2006. Bitch don't attend these shows unless they giving her special awards or she nominated or performing. Even then rarely lol does she even sit with the peasants in the crowd she stays drinking her champagne in the back!
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 8, 2015 19:34:48 GMT -5
it's just getting frustating to watch the grammy and think about Mariah situation. Toni Braxton who last hit was like what, in the 90's? just won a fkn grammy, rihanna won her 8th grammy (and she's one of the most sucessful singers with no talent imo) and Mariah can't even get a single nomination since DFAU (which I think she got just because the hype left from TEOM). it's just frustating bc she's one of the most talent singers out all and writes and produce all of her songs. urrrgh It's frustrating and also ridiculous, but Mariah doesn't do herself any favors. She isn't one to go on and present or perform just for the sake of it and to support the organization. Those sort of things help. I think in the '90s people saw her as being helped by Tommy, then in the early '00s she was a joke, but then TEOM brought her back and she finally won some. Since then she's fallen out of favor again. I mean, Janet still got nominated for flop albums. So have other people. The nominees in R&B Album this year aren't huge names. There is no reason MIAM shouldn't have been nominated in R&B Album this year. When is the last time Mariah attended the Grammys? The last she won 3 but should have won more 2006. Bitch don't attend these shows unless they giving her special awards or she nominated or performing. Even then rarely lol does she even sit with the peasants in the crowd she stays drinking her champagne in the back! This is what I mean. Not that Mariah has to do anything she doesn't want, but staying so removed from these mean people don't feel a need to acknowledge her. People vote for their friends and who they like; it's human nature.
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Post by Positive Tension on Feb 8, 2015 20:01:12 GMT -5
"TMB" is pretty good live. I love the studio version, but the live arrangements she's done add a bit more pep, and it seems to be pretty versatile. It has aged well, imo. Heck, even Madonna stanned for the song. You can't forget Aretha's cover, either. Of her older material, I'd love if she performed "Can't Let Go" and "Anytime You Need A Friend." "Someday" is nice enough, but it's far from her best, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 20:02:57 GMT -5
When is the last time Mariah attended the Grammys? 2006. The last time she sat in the audience was 1996 (which was the last time she'd attended at all prior to 2006).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 20:32:57 GMT -5
Pulling a Kelly Price...so watching Mariah on the Grammy Awards via youtube her now classic "Vision of Love" and "If Its Over" when she blew it out the park and had everyone standing and going nuts for her voice and then i contrast that to the 2015 show and ask? why are these girls even here when they sleepwalking? If i closed my eyes I think i just heard Ashanti :)
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Feb 8, 2015 20:53:28 GMT -5
Haha, I'm excited to see these performances #westcoastPROBLEMS
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 8, 2015 22:50:06 GMT -5
Mariah's Grammy history is such a shame. Despite winning 5 times, I don't think any major artist has as poor of a track record as she does: Mariah is 0-for-8 in Album, Record, and Song. Mariah went 1-for-8 in Pop Female. Mariah went 0-for-4 in Pop Collaboration. Mariah went 1-for-4 in R&B Female.
I think her worst losses are when "Hero" lost to Pop Female (losing to Sheryl Crow for "All I Wanna Do," not exactly a tough vocal), "One Sweet Day" lost Pop Collaboration (big WTF considering how big it was and that it was up for Record), and Daydream losing Pop Album (it's a true classic pop album and was huge).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 23:06:41 GMT -5
Mariah's Grammy history is such a shame. Despite winning 5 times, I don't think any major artist has as poor of a track record as she does: Mariah is 0-for-8 in Album, Record, and Song. Mariah went 1-for-8 in Pop Female. Mariah went 0-for-4 in Pop Collaboration. Mariah went 1-for-4 in R&B Female. I think her worst losses are when "Hero" lost to Pop Female (losing to Sheryl Crow for "All I Wanna Do," not exactly a tough vocal), "One Sweet Day" lost Pop Collaboration (big WTF considering how big it was and that it was up for Record), and Daydream losing Pop Album (it's a true classic pop album and was huge). Honestly with her 5 wins in 34 or something nominations i really don't care because its clear its a farce. They are so political look at Kanye and Beyonce being handed Grammy Awards like its candy while other legends put together can't even match one of them. I would rather her have 5 Grammy Awards than 22+ than to not have the countless classic songs, 200+ million album sold and 18 #'s ya know. They give 20+ grammy awards to acts who barely have any classic material.
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