RockaByeBaby
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Post by RockaByeBaby on Mar 18, 2014 10:55:29 GMT -5
IGGY AZALEA-Fancy: 6.578 (+ 0.969)
This is doing great so far :o
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Post by when the pawn... on Mar 18, 2014 11:07:49 GMT -5
Is Pharrell really in danger of losing #1 in sales so soon? That iTunes chart shows a 23% drop this week but last week had the Oscar boost. AOM is still at 0.6 on kworb.
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Post by icefire9 on Mar 18, 2014 11:18:20 GMT -5
13 songs in the top 20 all losing AI Yet, the entire top 5 is gaining somehow... Is Pharrell really in danger of losing #1 in sales so soon? That iTunes chart shows a 23% drop this week but last week had the Oscar boost. AOM is still at 0.6 on kworb. All of Me is gaining on Happy kworb. It was at 0.5540 32 hours ago .6057 now. It still has a long way to go, though, so I wouldn't bet on All of Me taking down Happy.
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Post by josh on Mar 18, 2014 11:54:31 GMT -5
I don't think the audience has been recalibrated on media see since blurred lines but can anyone confirm? At least major changes that we would obviously notice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 12:02:49 GMT -5
Wayy off topic but the question just kinda floated in my mind, I Gotta Feeling was #1 for the year end in Canada in 2009 and then #10 for 2010, has any other song matched such a high year end peak (ruling out Candle in the Wind as it's sales were really just because so many people watched the event) apart from Just The Way You Are. Party Rock Anthem #2 of 2011 and #29 of 2012 (don't know if that counts)
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Post by Soulsista on Mar 18, 2014 13:00:18 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
March 31, 1979
01 01 Tragedy - The Bee Gees (2nd and final week at #1) 02 02 I Will Survive - Gloria Gaynor 03 03 What a Fool Believes - The Doobie Brothers 04 04 Heaven Knows - Donna Summer w/Brooklyn Dreams 05 05 Shake Your Groove Thing - Peaches & Herb 06 07 Sultans Of Swing - Dire Straits 07 06 Do Ya Think I'm Sexy - Rod Stewart 08 15 Knock On Wood - Amii Stewart 09 09 What You Won't Do For Love - Bobby Caldwell 10 11 Don't Cry Out Loud - Melissa Manchester
March 31, 1984
01 04 Footloose - Kenny Loggins (1st of 3 weeks at #1) 02 02 Somebody's Watching Me - Rockwell 03 01 Jump - Van Halen 04 05 Here Comes The Rain Again - The Eurythmics 05 03 Girls Just Want To Have Fun - Cyndi Lauper 06 06 I Want a New Drug - Huey Lewis & The News 07 12 Against All Odds (Take a Look At Me Now) - Phil Collins 08 08 Automatic - The Pointer Sisters 09 09 Adult Education - Daryl Hall & John Oates 10 14 Miss Me Blind - Culture Club
April 1, 1989
01 02 Eternal Flame - The Bangles (1st and only week at #1) 02 03 Girl You Know It's True - Milli Vanilli 03 04 The Look - Roxette 04 05 My Heart Can't Tell You No - Rod Stewart 05 01 The Living Years - Mike & The Mechanics 06 07 She Drives Me Crazy - Fine Young Cannibals 07 08 Walk The Dinosaur - Was (Not Was) 08 14 Stand - R.E.M. 09 12 Dreamin' - Vanessa Williams 10 06 Lost In Your Eyes - Debbie Gibson
March 26, 1994
01 01 The Sign - Ace Of Base (3rd of 6 weeks at #1) 02 05 Bump N' Grind - R. Kelly 03 03 Without You / Never Forget You - Mariah Carey 04 02 The Power Of Love - Celine Dion 05 04 Whatta Man - Salt-n-Pepa feat. En Vogue 06 06 So Much In Love - All-4-One 07 07 Now And Forever - Richard Marx 08 09 Gin And Juice - Snoop Doggy Dogg 09 11 Cantaloop (Flip Fantasia) - US3 10 08 Breathe Again - Toni Braxton
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 13:27:04 GMT -5
Top 10 prediction:
1. Happy (this week the lead over the next song will shrink to a still very large 45% approximately) 2. Dark Horse (probably its last week in the top 2) 3. All of Me 4. Talk Dirty 5. Pompeii 6. Team (as much as I wish it could hit the top 5 I don't think it will do it...maybe next week) 7. Drunk in Love (streaming is keeping it in the top 10 for so long) 8. Counting Stars 9. The Man 10. Timber
Let It Go will fall to #11 and Best Day of My Life will rise to #12, maybe top 10 next week...lack of streaming is holding this song back (it's pretty much top 10 in sales and radio) and #selfie will probably be in the top 15 this week...I think it's headed for #10 :/
And it looks like an identical top 10 to last week's except for Let It Go falling out of the top ten from its #9 spot and The Man replacing it... 1-8 and 10 are exactly the same (even though I was hoping for Team to hit top 5, something Demons failed to do...and just like with Demons (held back by Royals) Team is being held back by a fellow alt rock song *gasp*)
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 18, 2014 16:05:04 GMT -5
"Happy" and "All of Me" are sucking up all of the airplay growth, hence the losses in the top 20. :)
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Post by trackmaster13 on Mar 18, 2014 17:59:05 GMT -5
Wayy off topic but the question just kinda floated in my mind, I Gotta Feeling was #1 for the year end in Canada in 2009 and then #10 for 2010, has any other song matched such a high year end peak (ruling out Candle in the Wind as it's sales were really just because so many people watched the event) apart from Just The Way You Are. Party Rock Anthem #2 of 2011 and #29 of 2012 (don't know if that counts) How Do I Live by LeAnn Rimes, #9 year end in 1997, #5 year end in 1998. Other than that, I can't think of anything remotely close.
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Post by Kris on Mar 18, 2014 18:24:14 GMT -5
Another fun fact: Baby broke 1 billion youtube views. edit: oh about a month ago Didn't think it was gaining views so slowly. Only 7 million views in 5 weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 20:29:04 GMT -5
13 songs in the top 20 all losing AI Because Happy and All Of Me are stealing them all.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Mar 18, 2014 23:04:04 GMT -5
13 songs in the top 20 all losing AI Because Happy and All Of Me are stealing them all. Thats radios fault. Radio is being lazy... instead of trying to break in something new they just overplay the two most popular songs. Eeeek! It's going to be one of those years. I wonder how much higher the streaming on these songs would be if radio wasn't overplaying them? Wouldn't that allow artists to make more money from streaming or is that radio's goal to try to kill off their competition by playing it super safe. I think that may be a miscalculation long term if they are tho. The less variety radio plays they less potential audience they can reach. It actually forces people to the Spotifys of the world.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 23:11:45 GMT -5
Maybe radio hates certain songs so they play them every 15 minutes in an attempt to make people sick of those songs and so those songs would die out soon and stop being popular? LOL
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Post by josh on Mar 18, 2014 23:21:53 GMT -5
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Post by imbondz on Mar 18, 2014 23:38:36 GMT -5
Songwriters / artists get paid more for radio play than streaming. They want airplay
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 0:52:03 GMT -5
I'm sorry but i cant be mad at radio for playing the hell outta Happy! That song is literally perfect and evokes feelings. If radio is gonna play the hell outta song they picked the right one love hearing music on the radio, where were all you when Roar was smashing, didn't hear shit from y'all other than YASSS QUEEN. Well?
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Post by Duca on Mar 19, 2014 6:30:31 GMT -5
1. PHARRELL WILLIAMS – Happy: 276.412 (+4.072) 2. KATY PERRY – Dark Horse: 211.958 (+1.209) 3. LORDE – Team: 196.750 (+0.003) 4. JOHN LEGEND – All Of Me: 173.005 (+4.212) 5. BASTILLE – Pompeii: 164.421 (+0.349) 6. ONEREPUBLIC – Counting Stars: 140.420 (-1.293) 7. JASON DERULO – Talk Dirty f/2 Chainz: 133.952 (+0.650) 8. BEYONCÉ – Drunk In Love f/Jay Z: 126.635 (-1.361) 9. ONE DIRECTION – Story Of My Life: 105.295 (-1.302) 10. AMERICAN AUTHORS – Best Day Of My Life: 96.161 (+0.745) 11. ELLIE GOULDING – Burn: 94.182 (-0.789) 12. KID INK – Show Me f/Chris Brown: 83.332 (-0.006) 13. PITBULL – Timber f/Ke$ha: 81.701 (-1.232) 14. AVICII – Wake Me Up: 78.596 (-0.009) ▲ 15. A GREAT BIG WORLD – Say Something w/C. Aguilera: 78.175 (-1.843) ▼ 16. ALOE BLACC – The Man: 73.968 (+0.223) 17. IMAGINE DRAGONS – Demons: 72.049 (-0.222) ▲ 18. EMINEM – The Monster f/Rihanna: 71.544 (-1.534) ▼ 19. PASSENGER – Let Her Go: 68.852 (-0.441) 20. LORDE – Royals: 66.938 (-0.802)
BLAKE SHELTON – Doin’ What She Likes: 66.032 (+0.476) DIERKS BENTLEY – I Hold On: 65.010 (+0.322) RANDY HOUSER – Goodnight Kiss: 61.487 (+0.658) AVICII – Hey Brother: 52.399 (+0.079) TY DOLLA $IGN – Paranoid f/B.o.B: 48.514 (-0.006) MARTIN GARRIX – Animals: 48.007 (+0.701) DEMI LOVATO – Neon Lights: 47.990 (+0.732) RASCAL FLATTS – Rewind: 47.571 (+0.642) CHRIS BROWN – Loyal f/Lil’ Wayne: 44.108 (+0.508) JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Not A Bad Thing: 43.414 (+1.743) TREY SONGZ – Na Na: 43.048 (+0.652) DAN +SHAY – 19 You +Me: 41.883 (+0.198) BEYONCE – Partition: 38.295 (+0.970) MIRANDA LAMBERT – Automatic: 37.159 (+0.632) THE CHAINSMOKERS – #SELFIE: 36.168 (+1.103) JHENE AIKO – The Worst: 35.963 (+0.787) NEON TREES – Sleeping With A Friend: 29.919 (+0.233) PARAMORE – Ain’t It Fun: 28.939 (+1.374) NAUGHTY BOY – La La La f/Sam Smith: 26.382 (+0.468) HUNTER HAYES – Invisible: 22.864 (+0.340) AUSTIN MAHONE – Mmm Yeah f/Pitbull: 13.131 (+0.414) EMINEM – Headlights: 12.694 (+0.350) IMAGINE DRAGONS – On Top Of The World: 11.727 (+0.317) MARIAH CAREY – You’re Mine (Eternal): 10.512 (+0.043) DISCLOSURE – Latch f/Sam Smith: 9.929 (+0.132) FOSTER THE PEOPLE – Coming Of Age: 9.663 (+0.112) IDINA MENZEL – Let It Go: 8.667 (+0.192) BASTILLE – Bad Blood: 8.473 (+0.247) COLDPLAY – Magic: 8.437 (+0.235) PHILLIP PHILLIPS – Raging Fire: 7.932 (+0.823) IGGY AZALEA-Fancy: 7.380 (+0.802) ZEDD – Find You f/M. Koma & M. Bryant: 6.719 (+0.188) CALVIN HARRIS – Summer: 4.227 (+1.175) SIA – Chandelier: 0.009
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 6:37:18 GMT -5
I'm sorry but i cant be mad at radio for playing the hell outta Happy! That song is literally perfect and evokes feelings. If radio is gonna play the hell outta song they picked the right one love hearing music on the radio, where were all you when Roar was smashing, didn't hear s**t from y'all other than YASSS QUEEN. Well? Roar didn't peak at 320 million AI, and it didn't spend 10 weeks at number one I love Happy, but personally I don't feel it's good enough to take the record from Blurred Lines. At least Mariah will get knocked down another spot I guess...
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Mar 19, 2014 6:44:48 GMT -5
I'm sorry but i cant be mad at radio for playing the hell outta Happy! That song is literally perfect and evokes feelings. If radio is gonna play the hell outta song they picked the right one love hearing music on the radio, where were all you when Roar was smashing, didn't hear s**t from y'all other than YASSS QUEEN. Well? It seems like rather than try to break a new song radio wants to keep the old ones going for as long as possible. Maybe there was a calculation made that playing the older material for longer is better for radio. I still think the radio impressions are overinflated in terms of actual audience reach. equalizermag.com/features/global-radio-audience-officially-restricted-to-commuters-stuck-in-traffic/Despite radio audience size going down the audience impressions continues to shoot up. hmmmm????
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Post by velaxti on Mar 19, 2014 6:53:48 GMT -5
Because Happy and All Of Me are stealing them all. Thats radios fault. Radio is being lazy... instead of trying to break in something new they just overplay the two most popular songs. Eeeek! It's going to be one of those years. I wonder how much higher the streaming on these songs would be if radio wasn't overplaying them? Wouldn't that allow artists to make more money from streaming or is that radio's goal to try to kill off their competition by playing it super safe. I think that may be a miscalculation long term if they are tho. The less variety radio plays they less potential audience they can reach. It actually forces people to the Spotifys of the world. It depends how you look at it though. To someone who listens to a wide variety of radio stations, and flicks through channels and what-not, then yes, it will probably seem overplayed to them. But for someone who listens mostly to just one or two stations (I think most people probably fall into this category), then it probably won't seem any more overplayed than any other big hit in high rotation. So what I'm trying to say is, I don't think it's that each radio station is playing the song more, it's that there's a huge range of different stations playing it. The stations that normally play Drake and A$AP Rocky are playing it, and also the stations that normally play OneRepublic and Michael Buble are playing it, which is why the airplay is so high.
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 19, 2014 7:05:34 GMT -5
It's a bit of both, actually. Looking at pop radio in particular, we're seeing songs now easily get 17,000+ weekly plays but what's happening is you've got 170+ stations playing them up to 100 times a week. So yeah the increased number of stations 'helps' but all of those stations have a rather high threshold of spins for power rotation. Six years ago it was a major feat to even break 10k, let alone 11k, and that was easily enough for #1. Nowadays that won't necessarily get you into the top 5, maybe even the top 10 depending on how airplay is being distributed.
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Post by RockaByeBaby on Mar 19, 2014 7:07:51 GMT -5
IGGY AZALEA-Fancy: 7.380 (+0.802) And another good update!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 7:15:12 GMT -5
Top 10 prediction: 1. Happy (this week the lead over the next song will shrink to a still very large 45% approximately) 2. Dark Horse (probably its last week in the top 2) 3. All of Me 4. Talk Dirty 5. Pompeii 6. Team (as much as I wish it could hit the top 5 I don't think it will do it...maybe next week) 7. Drunk in Love (streaming is keeping it in the top 10 for so long) 8. Counting Stars 9. The Man 10. Timber Let It Go will fall to #11 and Best Day of My Life will rise to #12, maybe top 10 next week...lack of streaming is holding this song back (it's pretty much top 10 in sales and radio) and #selfie will probably be in the top 15 this week...I think it's headed for #10 :/ And it looks like an identical top 10 to last week's except for Let It Go falling out of the top ten from its #9 spot and The Man replacing it... 1-8 and 10 are exactly the same (even though I was hoping for Team to hit top 5, something Demons failed to do...and just like with Demons (held back by Royals) Team is being held back by a fellow alt rock song *gasp*) Seems like CS won't quit top 10 soon...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 7:48:24 GMT -5
I'm sorry but i cant be mad at radio for playing the hell outta Happy! That song is literally perfect and evokes feelings. If radio is gonna play the hell outta song they picked the right one love hearing music on the radio, where were all you when Roar was smashing, didn't hear s**t from y'all other than YASSS QUEEN. Well? Roar didn't peak at 320 million AI, and it didn't spend 10 weeks at number one Thank God.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Mar 19, 2014 8:14:44 GMT -5
Thats radios fault. Radio is being lazy... instead of trying to break in something new they just overplay the two most popular songs. Eeeek! It's going to be one of those years. I wonder how much higher the streaming on these songs would be if radio wasn't overplaying them? Wouldn't that allow artists to make more money from streaming or is that radio's goal to try to kill off their competition by playing it super safe. I think that may be a miscalculation long term if they are tho. The less variety radio plays they less potential audience they can reach. It actually forces people to the Spotifys of the world. It depends how you look at it though. To someone who listens to a wide variety of radio stations, and flicks through channels and what-not, then yes, it will probably seem overplayed to them. But for someone who listens mostly to just one or two stations (I think most people probably fall into this category), then it probably won't seem any more overplayed than any other big hit in high rotation. So what I'm trying to say is, I don't think it's that each radio station is playing the song more, it's that there's a huge range of different stations playing it. The stations that normally play Drake and A$AP Rocky are playing it, and also the stations that normally play OneRepublic and Michael Buble are playing it, which is why the airplay is so high. I was actually going to make this point too. It's somewhat valid as it relates to Pharell. Given the fact that people listen to radio much less than say 10 years ago about half and the fact that of those people who listen to radio only 6% listen for the music.... yikes... I don't think 200 million + in radio airplay is valid. I think it's better to go with the streaming and the sales for the HOT 100.
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Post by Daniel Collins on Mar 19, 2014 9:37:04 GMT -5
Top 10 prediction: 1. Happy (this week the lead over the next song will shrink to a still very large 45% approximately) 2. Dark Horse (probably its last week in the top 2) 3. All of Me 4. Talk Dirty 5. Pompeii 6. Team (as much as I wish it could hit the top 5 I don't think it will do it...maybe next week) 7. Drunk in Love (streaming is keeping it in the top 10 for so long) 8. Counting Stars 9. The Man 10. Timber Let It Go will fall to #11 and Best Day of My Life will rise to #12, maybe top 10 next week...lack of streaming is holding this song back (it's pretty much top 10 in sales and radio) and #selfie will probably be in the top 15 this week...I think it's headed for #10 :/ And it looks like an identical top 10 to last week's except for Let It Go falling out of the top ten from its #9 spot and The Man replacing it... 1-8 and 10 are exactly the same (even though I was hoping for Team to hit top 5, something Demons failed to do...and just like with Demons (held back by Royals) Team is being held back by a fellow alt rock song *gasp*) This is also my prediction. A boring week tbh.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Mar 19, 2014 10:07:02 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/news/5937701/frozen-returns-to-no-1-on-billboard-200-for-sixth-weekOver on the Digital Songs chart, Pharrell's "Happy" is steady at No. 1, selling another 364,000 downloads (down 26 percent). The next two titles are both non-movers, as John Legend's "All of Me" ( 215,000; up 3 percent) and Jason Derulo's "Talk Dirty," featuring 2 Chainz ( 198,000; up 1 percent) are Nos. 2 and 3, respectively. "Talk Dirty" also crosses the 2 million sales mark this week (2.2 million), becoming Derulo's fourth song to do so. His biggest-selling song is "Whatcha Say," with 4 million sold. Katy Perry's "Dark Horse," featuring Juicy J, rides 5-4 with 165,000 (down 9 percent). The song jumps past the 4million sales threshold as well (4.1 million), marking Perry's seventh song to sell at least 4 million. Idina Menzel's "Let It Go" falls 4-5 with 122,000 (down 34 percent). The Chainsmokers' viral hit "#SELFIE" climbs 10-6 with 111,000 (up 26 percent). Bastille's "Pompeii" descends 6-7 with 106,000 (down 9 percent), Blacc's "The Man" is stationary at No. 8 with 97,000 (down 10 percent), and DJ Snake & Lil Jon's "Turn Down for What" jumps 15-9 with 83,000 (up 10 percent). It's the first top 10 for DJ Snake and the first for Lil Jon since his "Snap Yo Fingers" hit No. 9 in 2006. American Authors' "Best Day of My Life" also nets its first week in the top 10, stepping 11-10 with 82,000 (down 3 percent). Digital track sales this past week totaled 21.8 million downloads, down 5 percent compared with last week (23 million) and down 11 percent stacked next to the comparable week of 2013 (24.6 million). Year-to-date track sales are at 268.9 million, down 11 percent compared with the same total at this point last year (303.4 million).
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Post by when the pawn... on Mar 19, 2014 11:13:07 GMT -5
What is Blurred Lines airplay record?
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Post by Kris on Mar 19, 2014 11:20:41 GMT -5
I know I've mentioned Wake Me Up a lot lately, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it go back to the top 10 based on everything else falling.
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Post by allow that on Mar 19, 2014 11:28:18 GMT -5
I can't even get over how boring this chart has become.
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