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Post by McCreerian on Oct 31, 2014 21:15:15 GMT -5
Scotty posted a +100 over night on MB! If he can keep gaining like that, then his chances look pretty good! I've heard from a good source that he will get the other Westwood station add Monday, the Fresno add, and the final add for the panel, Boise, is still an outlier. The Boise station is the only monitored never to play FI at all during it's life so far. A lot of the Cumulus stations still barely are playing it, but that "could" be changing rather quickly. Scotty is not going to release a 3rd single until this makes it's natural peak. As I've said most likely it will be "Forget to Forget You." He also has no plans to release a new studio album until 2016, as he hasn't even began putting together and recording for it and won't til early next year. He will be on a big tour next Summer that has yet to be announced as well.
Nice jump to 13 on MB this week! Of course a Kenny jump is imminent. I have been told that FI will be heard a lot more around the country starting this week. So Scotty should hold his own when he goes to 14 til Aldean drops taking Scotty back to 14. I don't believe Church or FLGA line will jump, at least this week, maybe the next too. We'll just see how much this amp up will effect everything.
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Post by pnobelysk on Nov 13, 2014 12:29:07 GMT -5
new peak of 84 on the hot 100 this week
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Post by McCreerian on Nov 14, 2014 18:24:42 GMT -5
It’s Three Platinum Singles For Scotty McCreery Posted by Matt Bjorke on November 14, 2014 at 9:36 pm Scotty-McCreery-2014-610x405 Sales remain strong for 2011′s American Idol winner. Country music star Scotty McCreery recently earned three RIAA Platinum certifications for his hit singles “I Love You This Big,” “The Trouble With Girls” from his debut album Clear As Day and for his first Top 10 hit, “See You Tonight,” from McCreery’s sophomore album of the same name. Both of his first two albums have debuted at #1 on the country music album sales charts. McCreery’s second single from See You Tonight, “Feelin’ It” is currently Top 15 on country radio and has recently entered the Top 30 of the digital single sales chart. The American Idol champion debuted in 2011 and has sold over two million albums. Platinum certifications are for sales of over one million units or more. roughstock.com/news/2014/11/30755-three-platinum-singles-scotty-mccreery/All without going #1 (or even top 10 for the first 2)! Take that radio! Seriously this guy is much more popular than he is given credit for in the industry. I have heard from a reliable source that in 2015 they probably won't release FTFY or any other 3rd single after FI peaks. They are going to take a few months off and come back with a single and album #3 in the 2nd half of the year. It sucks that this great album and that great song FTFY won't see radio, but that's what happens when it takes nearly 2 years to chart 2 singles...come on radio!
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Post by countryfan4life on Nov 14, 2014 18:41:53 GMT -5
^^^^I read your October 31st post after seeing an interview Scotty did during CMA week and I got really confused, because I swore I heard him say that he was working on new music. It stinks that there will probably be no more releases from this album, but I still think "See You Tonight" and "Feeling It" were game changers for him and definitely helped shed the "Idol" and "Josh Turner wannabe" labels.
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Post by McCreerian on Nov 14, 2014 18:52:11 GMT -5
^^^^I read your October 31st post after seeing an interview Scotty did during CMA week and I got really confused, because I swore I heard him say that he was working on new music. It stinks that there will probably be no more releases from this album, but I still think "See You Tonight" and "Feeling It" were game changers for him and definitely helped shed the "Idol" and "Josh Turner wannabe" labels. Scotty is touring right now. He may be writing and listening to demos. But he will not enter the recording studio til after the new year. He hopes to have a single out sometime in the Summer and then release the new album late next year or early 2016, depending on the success of the single. It does suck that SYT won't get another single, but like I said, Scotty is one of these artists that radio makes walk on nails to get up the chart. David Nail, Craig Campbell, and even Hunter Hayes lately, is like that too. So it's either less singles and bi-yearly albums or more singles and 3-4 year album cycles, which wouldn't make any sense. I sure miss the Pre-2000s when even new unheard artists got 3-4 singles per year up the chart if they were successful enough. That'll never happen again.
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Post by McCreerian on Nov 20, 2014 16:00:14 GMT -5
Just wanted to follow up on a previous post. Scotty will be touring in the Summer of 2015 as the mid act for Rascal Flatts. Rascal Flatts haven’t revealed many details about their touring plans for next year, but they did share one important piece of information — who they will be sharing the bill with. “We’ll start in the summer, for sure,” Gary LeVox tells Charlotte, N.C., radio station WSOC. “I know we got Scotty McCreery going with us. We’re still undecided on the opening act, but it’s going to be a great, great tour.” Read More: Gary LeVox Shares Rascal Flatts Tour Plans for 2015 | theboot.com/rascal-flatts-tour-2015/?trackback=tsmclip
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Post by surfy on Nov 20, 2014 19:52:01 GMT -5
His other singles were so much better than this. I don't like it (95% of the time) when artists half speak and half sing... it's grating to my ears.
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Post by McCreerian on Nov 20, 2014 20:00:48 GMT -5
His other singles were so much better than this. I don't like it (95% of the time) when artists half speak and half sing... it's grating to my ears. It was my first choice to be the 2nd single but that was in the Spring. I never expected a song about partying at the beach to be climbing near the top 10 at Christmas. I guess it's flips flops flopping at Valentines Day if it makes it to the top 5. But thanks to the slow climb there will be no 3rd single. It was my first choice to be the 2nd single but that was in the Spring. It's the ear candy radio eats up. I never expected a song about partying at the beach to be climbing near the top 10 at Christmas. I guess it's flips flops flopping at Valentines Day if it makes it to the top 5. But thanks to the slow climb there will be no 3rd single. I'm excited to see what his first single from album #3 will bring when he releases it next year to coincide with the RF tour. Radio seems to finally be on board with him, some stations are warming slower than the others. Boise's Cumulus station still refuses to acknowledges his existence. Scotty is firmly on the B List. We'll know with his 3rd album if he will be promoted to the A list anytime in the next couple years with radio.
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Post by dm2081 on Nov 20, 2014 23:26:07 GMT -5
I don't think i'd say Scotty is on the B-list yet, he hasn't had a #1 hit yet. He has some decent sales and a couple of smaller radio songs, so I'd say he's a solid C artist, but I think B-list is a bit of stretch for right now.
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Post by McCreerian on Nov 20, 2014 23:31:00 GMT -5
I don't think i'd say Scotty is on the B-list yet, he hasn't had a #1 hit yet. He has some decent sales and a couple of smaller radio songs, so I'd say he's a solid C artist, but I think B-list is a bit of stretch for right now. When he can sell out some 2000, 3000, even 5000+ and a couple 10000+ places in 2014 as a headliner, then I say that alone puts him on the B List. I don't see many of the B List artists getting #1s being able to do that.
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Post by dm2081 on Nov 20, 2014 23:42:13 GMT -5
I don't think i'd say Scotty is on the B-list yet, he hasn't had a #1 hit yet. He has some decent sales and a couple of smaller radio songs, so I'd say he's a solid C artist, but I think B-list is a bit of stretch for right now. When he can sell out some 2000, 3000, even 5000+ and a couple 10000+ places in 2014 as a headliner, then I say that alone puts him on the B List. I don't see many of the B List artists getting #1s being able to do that. Fair enough, you've got your opinion, and I've got mine. I do think he could be the next Josh Turner, but I just don't think he's there yet. Radio is a big part of being a huge COUNTRY star.
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Post by jlatn5b on Nov 20, 2014 23:56:14 GMT -5
Another thing to note: he's sold 256k of his latest album, more than the latest releases from Chris Young (223k), Jake Owen (203k), Rascal Flatts (192k), and Hunter Hayes (162k). All of these have been out awhile and selling less than 1,200 copies/week (so most likely well past their peak sales).
But even with the album sales, concert ticket numbers, and moderate radio success, "firmly B list" may be a little bit of a stretch (but not much). He's going in the right direction.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Nov 21, 2014 15:37:46 GMT -5
I just noticed this song hasn't charted in Canada at all. Any idea why the Canucks are snubbing it?
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 21, 2014 15:42:47 GMT -5
I just noticed this song hasn't charted in Canada at all. Any idea why the Canucks are snubbing it? It's at #46 on the MB Canadian Country Chart. He's not alone though. "Kiss You Tonight" is only at #48, "Take It On Back" is at #38 and "Close Your Eyes" is only at #36. This usually happens to lesser American country artists. Unless the song proves to be a huge top 5 hit in the States, the Canadian stations are slow with adding some of the songs charting in the 15-30 range of the U.S Chart. Plus the fact that there's 15 Canadian country artists charting in front of Scotty.
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 21, 2014 19:37:41 GMT -5
I just noticed this song hasn't charted in Canada at all. Any idea why the Canucks are snubbing it? It's at #46 on the MB Canadian Country Chart. He's not alone though. "Kiss You Tonight" is only at #48, "Take It On Back" is at #38 and "Close Your Eyes" is only at #36. This usually happens to lesser American country artists. Unless the song proves to be a huge top 5 hit in the States, the Canadian stations are slow with adding some of the songs charting in the 15-30 range of the U.S Chart. Plus the fact that there's 15 Canadian country artists charting in front of Scotty. It's because of the Canadian law requiring a certain % of Canadian talent/sourced music to be played on their stations. Technically, if any artist went to Canada, recorded the record with all Canadian members and cut songs written by Canadians, it would satisfy that rule to qualify for Canadian airply. There was a songwriter named Willie Mack who was signed to Open Road Recordings who did just that despite being from Texas (Though it's possible his ancestors were Canadian).
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 21, 2014 19:45:01 GMT -5
It's at #46 on the MB Canadian Country Chart. He's not alone though. "Kiss You Tonight" is only at #48, "Take It On Back" is at #38 and "Close Your Eyes" is only at #36. This usually happens to lesser American country artists. Unless the song proves to be a huge top 5 hit in the States, the Canadian stations are slow with adding some of the songs charting in the 15-30 range of the U.S Chart. Plus the fact that there's 15 Canadian country artists charting in front of Scotty. It's because of the Canadian law requiring a certain % of Canadian talent/sourced music to be played on their stations. Technically, if any artist went to Canada, recorded the record with all Canadian members and cut songs written by Canadians, it would satisfy that rule to qualify for Canadian airply. There was a songwriter named Willie Mack who was signed to Open Road Recordings who did just that despite being from Texas (Though it's possible his ancestors were Canadian). Oh yeah, I knew about the law. I remember thinking back about 10 years ago when I took an interest into Canadian country music, that there must be some way they work that sort of deal out. Also on a side note; There is some really terrific music being made in Canada and I wish they got some more exposure in the U.S than they do.
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Post by rsmatto on Nov 21, 2014 19:51:00 GMT -5
It's because of the Canadian law requiring a certain % of Canadian talent/sourced music to be played on their stations. Technically, if any artist went to Canada, recorded the record with all Canadian members and cut songs written by Canadians, it would satisfy that rule to qualify for Canadian airply. There was a songwriter named Willie Mack who was signed to Open Road Recordings who did just that despite being from Texas (Though it's possible his ancestors were Canadian). Oh yeah, I knew about the law. I remember thinking back about 10 years ago when I took an interest into Canadian country music, that there must be some way they work that sort of deal out. Also on a side note; There is some really terrific music being made in Canada and I wish they got some more exposure in the U.S than they do. Completely agree. If/when this hits Top 10, it'll have a meteoric rise up that chart up north.
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Post by McCreerian on Nov 21, 2014 19:57:36 GMT -5
One of the Canadian artists that I have always enjoyed is Adam Gregory who got his start at 14 but sounded way older, just like Scotty did when he started at 16. Adam has fallen off the radar the last 3 years or so as he's got married, had a kid, and focused on a private life; but he had a decade full of Canadian hits from 2000-2010 and his albums are all terrific. He even attempted a US crossover on Big Machine in 2009 and got 2 top 40 hits but his album never was released in this Country. He even wrote and performed around Nashville with Lee Brice. I finally saw him live in 2009 when he came to Charlotte and met him. He was amazed I had followed his career from this far South all those years and his concert was one of the best club shows I've ever seen. I've read he's going to attempt a comeback in Canada next year. I just thought it would be interesting to bring him up in Scotty's thread since the subject of Canadian Country came up. As for Scotty I talk to several Canadian fans and Canadian McCreerians are hungry up there to see him live and hear his music on the radio.
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Post by someguy on Nov 22, 2014 3:21:49 GMT -5
I completely agree that Adam Gregory should have seen so much more success than he has (though he has seen a lot more success in Canada than he has in the US at this point).
As for why Scotty is so low on the Canadian airplay chart at the moment, as I said in the Garth "People Loving People" thread, with Canadian songs only getting so high is that with CanCon laws, stations are forced to play a set amount of Canadian music in their playlists, which gets Canadian songs into the top 20 and top 10. But since American media is heavily dominant up here, American artists and songs get far more attention and publicity, so the big American songs seem to be the ones that get the most airplay. Also, more established American artists have an advantage over newer artists, as there are so many 'extra' spins left over after the CanCon requirements have been fulfilled, so someone like Garth would have a huge advantage over, say Cole Swindell. So it doesn't really surprise me that Garth's song has done well here.
So, someone like Scotty wouldn't get added to Canadian playlists until he becomes a big hit in the US. A middling American hit by a B/C list American artist really won't get added to playlists here. The song really does have to breakout on its own first.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 13:17:49 GMT -5
I wonder if this week Mercury Nashville is doing a final push for "Feelin' It." Eric Church's "Talladega" is already ahead on Billboard and just passed "Feelin' It" last week on Mediabase. Mercury has managed to push Scotty's song back ahead of Eric's this week, but I highly doubt with these low sales and summer being so far after the fact that this can stay ahead "permanently." They should be able to get Scotty a Mediabase top 10 peak since "Sunshine & Whiskey" is falling hard and will probably end up outside of the top 10 by this Sunday's published Mediabase chart, but after that I think Mercury may be done with this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 13:35:11 GMT -5
^I've been thinking the same thing, @daydrinker, so I was confused to see Scotty have a completely flat update (+3 spins, +13k audience) this morning, while Eric had a solid update (+90 spins, +352k). Still, Eric was barely ahead on Monday's Billboard chart (27.612 million for him, 27.350 million for Scotty), and with Blake set to go recurrent and Frankie falling so fast that he's almost certain to go recurrent as well, I think there's a pretty decent chance for Scotty to jump 13-10 on the next Billboard chart, and if he misses out perhaps they can at least get this to #10 on MB.
Frankie is down from 44.994 million on Monday's MB update to 40.467 mil today, and he's also fallen from 5900 spins on Monday to 5131 today. He was already down to #7 in total spins on Monday's BB, and with the way he's falling he'll easily fall below both Eric and Scotty.
It also helps that both Eric and Scotty are UMG artists, and that "Talladega" looks like a future #1 hit. EMI probably doesn't have to slow it down much at all...all that really needs to happen is for Mercury to just give "Feelin' It" a little bit of a boost this weekend and it should check in at #10. I think it'd be a big mistake if they don't try to get it to #10 by Sunday/Monday. There aren't really any threats that close behind (other than FGL), but I'm just not convinced that "Feelin' It" can hang around for much longer. I guess Mercury could try to keep it alive through Christmas but that seems like a tall order.
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Post by McCreerian on Nov 27, 2014 13:57:14 GMT -5
I just don't believe that whatever happens Monday night will be the "end all" to this song. It will keep climbing til the freeze hits. Then after that, it'll be more evident if this song will make it into to 2015 or not. Right now it's a little too premature.
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Post by someguy on Nov 28, 2014 23:52:58 GMT -5
^I've been thinking the same thing, @daydrinker, so I was confused to see Scotty have a completely flat update (+3 spins, +13k audience) this morning, while Eric had a solid update (+90 spins, +352k). Still, Eric was barely ahead on Monday's Billboard chart (27.612 million for him, 27.350 million for Scotty), and with Blake set to go recurrent and Frankie falling so fast that he's almost certain to go recurrent as well, I think there's a pretty decent chance for Scotty to jump 13-10 on the next Billboard chart, and if he misses out perhaps they can at least get this to #10 on MB. Frankie is down from 44.994 million on Monday's MB update to 40.467 mil today, and he's also fallen from 5900 spins on Monday to 5131 today. He was already down to #7 in total spins on Monday's BB, and with the way he's falling he'll easily fall below both Eric and Scotty. It also helps that both Eric and Scotty are UMG artists, and that "Talladega" looks like a future #1 hit. EMI probably doesn't have to slow it down much at all...all that really needs to happen is for Mercury to just give "Feelin' It" a little bit of a boost this weekend and it should check in at #10. I think it'd be a big mistake if they don't try to get it to #10 by Sunday/Monday. There aren't really any threats that close behind (other than FGL), but I'm just not convinced that "Feelin' It" can hang around for much longer. I guess Mercury could try to keep it alive through Christmas but that seems like a tall order. Eric continues to pull away (and passed Scotty on MB today), so I think Scotty has to have a big weekend if he wants to finish in the top 10 this week. At this point, I see Frankie and Blake bot going recurrent, but Carrie and Eric getting their spots. Scotty will have to hang in for awhile to get a top 10 finish, I think. I wouldn't be surprised to see him peak at #11.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 15:53:57 GMT -5
A #11 peak is definitely nothing to be ashamed of for a new artist like Scotty McCreery. This will be his second top 15 hit this album and the second highest-peaking single of his career. I don't know if Scotty will be able to get a third single as high up the charts but he's at least building some upward momentum. Reality TV stars often end up having trouble proving their commitment when they move on to country radio but I'd say Mercury Nashville has not done a bad job with Scotty McCreery so far.
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Post by McCreerian on Nov 30, 2014 11:39:15 GMT -5
Thanks to B&R, top 10 will happen (on MB at least) next Sunday night. Scotty will be #11 for this week's chart thanks to FB dropping below him last night. Even when FLGA jumps him in a day or 2, he will still have 2 songs dropping below him (LBT and B&R). So #10 will happen on Mediabase. Quite possibly on BB too. Again, thank you B&R!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 14:36:52 GMT -5
I just don't believe that whatever happens Monday night will be the "end all" to this song. It will keep climbing til the freeze hits. Then after that, it'll be more evident if this song will make it into to 2015 or not. Right now it's a little too premature. Yeah, I don't necessarily think that Scotty is going to start dropping this week, but it seems odd that Mercury didn't try to keep it ahead of Eric through tomorrow just in case some stations start moving on from it (making it harder to gain). I mean, they had a perfect window to #10 here already, and time is only working against this one (it's a summertime song that's 34 weeks old). I expect Scotty to keep gaining for the next 2-3 weeks but I can't see this one making too much headway into the top 10. Barring a sudden collapse, "Feelin' It" should remain on the charts into January (since no one goes recurrent over the holiday weeks), but I think that, when things start to pick up again right after Christmas, this song won't be able to gain anymore.
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Post by McCreerian on Nov 30, 2014 16:24:12 GMT -5
I just don't believe that whatever happens Monday night will be the "end all" to this song. It will keep climbing til the freeze hits. Then after that, it'll be more evident if this song will make it into to 2015 or not. Right now it's a little too premature. Yeah, I don't necessarily think that Scotty is going to start dropping this week, but it seems odd that Mercury didn't try to keep it ahead of Eric through tomorrow just in case some stations start moving on from it (making it harder to gain). I mean, they had a perfect window to #10 here already, and time is only working against this one (it's a summertime song that's 34 weeks old). I expect Scotty to keep gaining for the next 2-3 weeks but I can't see this one making too much headway into the top 10. Barring a sudden collapse, "Feelin' It" should remain on the charts into January (since no one goes recurrent over the holiday weeks), but I think that, when things start to pick up again right after Christmas, this song won't be able to gain anymore. I agree. I do hope that when all is said and done it can be the record that SYT had 2 top 10 hits. It will be at least #10 on MB, hopefully it will on BB too. I know both stations share like 97% of the same stations. It must the the 3% difference that causes some songs not to be equal peaks on both charts. That plus the points vs AI method. As for January, FTFY was supposed to be the 3rd single but now no one is saying for sure whether that will happen or if Scotty till take take off radio and come back in the Summer with a lead single. FTFY would be such a perfect winter single but given how slow Scotty's climb rate is, it wouldn't peak til back to school time at the end of Summer. So I'm thinking the route they will take will be come back just in time for the RF tour with a lead single in May/June.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 23:43:24 GMT -5
I viewed this week as Mercury's "big push" for top 10 and I got the impression that even with EMI Nashville trying to stall "Talladega" to let "Feelin' It" reach #10, Scotty McCreery's song couldn't put up the numbers. I don't know if this is true and the flat updates this has had this week could either disprove my conjecture or simply verify the idea that Scotty was just having a hard time putting up top 10 numbers even for a final week push. But as McCreerian noted, the game-changer this week was that the bottom caved in on "Look at You" and so Mercury might have a bit of extra motivation to keep pushing for top 10 next week. I'm not sure. But the time of year and low iTunes sales made me think that this can't keep climbing much longer and it may be tough to get program directors to give Scotty any kind of heavy rotation. If "Look at You" and "Day Drinking" fall hard enough and "Like a Cowboy" doesn't have a huge conversion week next week, then as long as Scotty can put up one more decent week of gaining (a few hundred spins) I do think he can get into the top 10, depending on whether his label plans to keep pushing.
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Post by McCreerian on Dec 5, 2014 19:56:26 GMT -5
Top 10 on Mediabase as of today! It should be safely there thru Sunday. Next week we will have FLGA Line jump but B&R drop below it. So it looks like it'll remain #10 thru the freeze and it very well could be it's peak. Personally I'd love to see it match at least SYT's #8 but hey I'll take top 10! Hopefully Billboard will match Mediabase, if not this week, then next.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 5, 2014 20:02:01 GMT -5
Top 10 on Mediabase as of today! It should be safely there thru Sunday. Next week we will have FLGA Line jump but B&R drop below it. So it looks like it'll remain #10 thru the freeze and it very well could be it's peak. Personally I'd love to see it match at least SYT's #8 but hey I'll take top 10! Hopefully Billboard will match Mediabase, if not this week, then next. Special thanks to the free falling "Day Drinking". ;)
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