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Post by ListenToItTwice on Apr 16, 2014 13:42:55 GMT -5
The top 7 is the same for the fourth straight week. Get real, Hot 100.
Edit: Oh the article clearly says that, and acknowledges that this is, in fact, a record.
"All of Me" has four weeks at #2 without hitting #1... Can it pass "Gangnam Style's" 7 weeks? Or the two record holders: 10 weeks for "Waiting For a Girl Like You" (Foreigner) and "Work It" (Missy Elliott)?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 13:48:03 GMT -5
Biggest single week drop from within the Hot 100 Airplay chart (the chart that has existed since 1990) - position-wise The record holder will have it for a while since a 56 position drop is not possible anymore This Week Last Week Imprint | Catalog No. | Distributing Label DATE drop 75 19 Unchained Melody, Righteous Brothers Hot 100 Airplay 1990-11-10 56 52 10 Cherry Pie, Warrant Hot 100 Airplay 1990-11-10 42 68 29 Fly To the Angels, Slaughter Hot 100 Airplay 1990-11-10 39 52 13 Landslide, Dixie Chicks Hot 100 Airplay 2003-04-05 39 43 9 Suicide Blonde, INXS Hot 100 Airplay 1990-11-10 34 48 14 God Bless The USA, Lee Greenwood Hot 100 Airplay 2001-10-06 34 68 34 Judas, Lady Gaga Hot 100 Airplay 2011-05-28 34 74 42 Bootylicious, Destiny's Child Hot 100 Airplay 2001-09-08 32 71 40 Always In My Heart, Tevin Campbell Hot 100 Airplay 1994-10-22 31 75 44 Lucky, Britney Spears Hot 100 Airplay 2000-10-07 3159 28 Give Me All Your Luvin', Madonna Feat. Nicki Minaj & M.I.A. Hot 100 Airplay 2012-02-25 31 Was that the start of the clear-channel ban? |
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Post by Daniel Collins on Apr 16, 2014 13:48:22 GMT -5
Most total weeks in the top ten
32 weeks – LeAnn Rimes — "How Do I Live" (1997–1998)
30 weeks – Santana featuring Rob Thomas — "Smooth" (1999–2000)
29 weeks – LMFAO featuring Lauren Bennett and GoonRock — "Party Rock Anthem" (2011–2012)
28 weeks – Jewel — "Foolish Games" / "You Were Meant for Me" (1997–1998)
26 weeks – Savage Garden — "Truly Madly Deeply" (1997–1998)
25 weeks – Chubby Checker — "The Twist" (1960 and 1962), Toni Braxton — "Un-Break My Heart" (1996–1997), Timbaland featuring OneRepublic — "Apologize" (2007–2008), OneRepublic - "Counting Stars" (2013-2014)
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Apr 16, 2014 13:48:32 GMT -5
People b!tching about the Hot 100 being the same need to point the finger to the consumer who download and stream the same song over and over again. Billboard isn't going to start playing roulette so that it changes each week so you can get a chubby seeing a different artist in the Top 10.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Apr 16, 2014 13:53:14 GMT -5
People b!tching about the Hot 100 being the same need to point the finger to the consumer who download and stream the same song over and over again. Billboard isn't going to start playing roulette so that it changes each week so you can get a chubby seeing a different artist in the Top 10. The top 7 is the same for the fourth straight week. Get real, Hot 100 consumer. It's your fault I'm flaccid. We good now? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 14:03:48 GMT -5
The top 7 is the same for the fourth straight week. Get real, Hot 100. Edit: Oh the article clearly says that, and acknowledges that this is, in fact, a record. "All of Me" has four weeks at #2 without hitting #1... Can it pass "Gangnam Style's" 7 weeks? Or the two record holders: 10 weeks for "Waiting For a Girl Like You" (Foreigner) and "Work It" (Missy Elliott)? Nah, I still think it will get a week or two at #1. |
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Post by Kris on Apr 16, 2014 14:14:47 GMT -5
People b!tching about the Hot 100 being the same need to point the finger to the consumer who download and stream the same song over and over again. Billboard isn't going to start playing roulette so that it changes each week so you can get a chubby seeing a different artist in the Top 10. I think the finger should be pointed at the artists, not the consumers. If artist's don't release new music then obviously the same stuff is going to be played. "Sing" is probably the first single to receive any attention in months apart from what's on the chart now. |
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Apr 16, 2014 14:16:48 GMT -5
People b!tching about the Hot 100 being the same need to point the finger to the consumer who download and stream the same song over and over again. Billboard isn't going to start playing roulette so that it changes each week so you can get a chubby seeing a different artist in the Top 10. I think the finger should be pointed at the artists, not the consumers. If artist's don't release new music then obviously the same stuff is going to be played. "Sing" is probably the first single to receive any attention in months apart from what's on the chart now. I don't accept this Lana shade. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 14:20:28 GMT -5
Lana's song doesn't count for the Hot 100 until next week...
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Post by Kris on Apr 16, 2014 14:26:50 GMT -5
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Apr 16, 2014 14:27:51 GMT -5
People b!tching about the Hot 100 being the same need to point the finger to the consumer who download and stream the same song over and over again. Billboard isn't going to start playing roulette so that it changes each week so you can get a chubby seeing a different artist in the Top 10. I think the finger should be pointed at the artists, not the consumers. If artist's don't release new music then obviously the same stuff is going to be played. "Sing" is probably the first single to receive any attention in months apart from what's on the chart now. So it's the Top 10 artists fault that the other 90 or so songs can't chart in the Top 10, not the consumers? |
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Apr 16, 2014 14:42:24 GMT -5
I think the finger should be pointed at the artists, not the consumers. If artist's don't release new music then obviously the same stuff is going to be played. "Sing" is probably the first single to receive any attention in months apart from what's on the chart now. So it's the Top 10 artists fault that the other 90 or so songs can't chart in the Top 10, not the consumers? I think the argument can be made that a really wonky release schedule as of late is partially to blame |
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Post by 85la on Apr 16, 2014 15:02:05 GMT -5
I wonder what the true story on "Landslide" was. Yes, it would have lost Country recurrent airplay. But by that point, it was marginal. For Landslide to crash, it would have had to be pulled instantly from hundreds of NON-Country stations, right? And the retail single, of which there was one, would, too have had to plummet. This is odd, considering the prevailing wisdom is that controversy frequently spurs interest. Maybe the label just freaked? Well, the controversy got worse there for a bit, so it might have been that it caught on outside of country and/or in certain parts of the country. I think that stat was for Hot 100 Airplay, so it doesn't necessarily mean sales plummeted (though I am sure they did). Landslide was a huge crossover hit at the time. I think I even remember hearing it on KIIS in L.A., which at least back then, didn't play country songs. The main reason why it dropped was because Clear Channel, which is a conservative corporation and owns like 80% of radio stations in the country, took offense to Natalie Maines' comment and basically had it pulled from all its stations. Although I don't know how much retail sales contributed to this song, It probably didn't have much to do with it, because even back then physical sales were negligible for most songs. |
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Post by velaxti on Apr 16, 2014 15:24:21 GMT -5
People b!tching about the Hot 100 being the same need to point the finger to the consumer who download and stream the same song over and over again. Billboard isn't going to start playing roulette so that it changes each week so you can get a chubby seeing a different artist in the Top 10. I think the finger should be pointed at the artists, not the consumers. If artist's don't release new music then obviously the same stuff is going to be played. "Sing" is probably the first single to receive any attention in months apart from what's on the chart now. I actually think the finger needs to be pointed at radio DJs. There've actually been lots of songs released as singles this year, but pop radio in particular has ignored lots of them. Latch, Partition, Loyal, La La La, Show Me. These would be top 10 on the Hot 100 if they were top 10 on pop radio. Why isn't Rather Be getting any airplay yet? That's such an obvious hit it's ridiculous. What are these DJs scared about? |
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Post by popbox on Apr 16, 2014 15:45:00 GMT -5
The top 10 on the Hot 100 has basically been what the top ten on iTunes has been, so people can't blame radio for the static state. It is mainly a lack of anything new being released that's exciting or by a big name. I mean radio has been quick to jump on Sing cause it has been one of the first new songs to get much attention. Lana will spice things up a bit next week. But most of the songs outside the top ten just aren't all that interesting or fresh right now. Hell, a lot of them are songs that have been around a long time and already been in the top ten. I can see why the top ten hasn't been changing much. Hopefully now that summer is coming we'll finally get a slew of interesting new music.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Apr 16, 2014 16:21:59 GMT -5
People b!tching about the Hot 100 being the same need to point the finger to the consumer who download and stream the same song over and over again. Billboard isn't going to start playing roulette so that it changes each week so you can get a chubby seeing a different artist in the Top 10. We are seeing the full impact of streaming now. Take that component out and the chart would be different. Think about songs like Radioactive, SAIL, etc. that have hung on way past their sales/radio expiration dates. However, they are incredibly strong on streaming. It's kind of the bait-and-switch - the initial shock with the chart shake up when the streaming component was changed last year (Harlem Shake, Stay, etc.), led us to believe we'd be seeing major chart shake-ups (and we did at times), but after adjusting the formula in December after all those old songs became viral hits, it has just caused sludge on the charts. I used to get excited about the charts, but the past few months have definitely tempered that. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 16:26:44 GMT -5
Well, the controversy got worse there for a bit, so it might have been that it caught on outside of country and/or in certain parts of the country. I think that stat was for Hot 100 Airplay, so it doesn't necessarily mean sales plummeted (though I am sure they did). Landslide was a huge crossover hit at the time. I think I even remember hearing it on KIIS in L.A., which at least back then, didn't play country songs. The main reason why it dropped was because Clear Channel, which is a conservative corporation and owns like 80% of radio stations in the country, took offense to Natalie Maines' comment and basically had it pulled from all its stations. Although I don't know how much retail sales contributed to this song, It probably didn't have much to do with it, because even back then physical sales were negligible for most songs. Clear Channel is of the Devil. |
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Post by jebsib on Apr 16, 2014 16:27:13 GMT -5
^ Y'know, this is kind of like what happened when the Hot 100 started using monitored BDS and Soundscan after years of reported info:
The first few weeks, we were all stunned that songs could debut at #3 or get to #1 within two weeks, thinking that it would mean that the chart would be faster than ever.
The irony is - and for a variety of reasons - it led to the slowest the chart had been in 40+ years with static top 10s, endless #1 runs, and chart longevity awards.
Could we be in for more of the same?
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Post by Glove Slap on Apr 16, 2014 16:32:04 GMT -5
^ Y'know, this is kind of like what happened when the Hot 100 started using monitored BDS and Soundscan after years of reported info: The first few weeks, we were all stunned that songs could debut at #3 or get to #1 within two weeks, thinking that it would mean that the chart would be faster than ever. The irony is - and for a variety of reasons - it led to the slowest the chart had been in 40+ years with static top 10s, endless #1 runs, and chart longevity awards. Could we be in for more of the same? But it clearly reflects what is actually going on much more than what was before. I always roll my eyes when people who watch the charts praise the pre-SS/BDS era. Yes, it might have been faster, and there might have been more turnover, but it was much more easily manipulatable and not as accurate. More than ever, the charts of today directly reflect what is going on at the consumer end and what is actually bringing in more money (which is the point of the Hot 100) without record label heads and radio DJs manipulating data. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 16:34:46 GMT -5
People b!tching about the Hot 100 being the same need to point the finger to the consumer who download and stream the same song over and over again. Billboard isn't going to start playing roulette so that it changes each week so you can get a chubby seeing a different artist in the Top 10. We are seeing the full impact of streaming now. Take that component out and the chart would be different. Think about songs like Radioactive, SAIL, etc. that have hung on way past their sales/radio expiration dates. However, they are incredibly strong on streaming. It's kind of the bait-and-switch - the initial shock with the chart shake up when the streaming component was changed last year (Harlem Shake, Stay, etc.), led us to believe we'd be seeing major chart shake-ups (and we did at times), but after adjusting the formula in December after all those old songs became viral hits, it has just caused sludge on the charts. I used to get excited about the charts, but the past few months have definitely tempered that. Streaming has to be the reason that Katy Perry's DH is STILL top 3 after dropping from #1 8 weeks ago. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Apr 16, 2014 16:35:41 GMT -5
And if radio didn't play the same damn songs over and over and over and over and over and over...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 16:37:57 GMT -5
^ It's funny what velaxti said because the top 4 on the Hot 100 is literally identical to the top 4 AI radio songs the last couple days lol...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 16:49:30 GMT -5
OneRepublic becomes the first artist to have 2 songs spend 25 weeks in the top 10, the top 7 stay the same for 3 weeks. Not A Bad Thing, Loyal, and Sing, all miss the top 10. Happy will stay at #1 for a long time. All of Me will be blocked by Happy. Talk Dirty will see about a 40% increase in sales next week due to the album (right now it is at #8 and #10). Counting Stars feels old. Billboard likes making tons of very specific statements that almost don't mean anything, saying how narrow the statements are. Owl City flops. Lana set for a debut at about 10-15. Sing becomes Ed's highest charting single after its debut. (Side note: someone needs to tell Ed that every character dosn't cost $1,000). Frozen might not get #1 on the billboard 200 next week (it's at #5 on iTunes) right now. Team and Counting stars are not even in the top 30 on iTunes, but are in the billboard top 10. icantthinkofaname has too much free time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 16:51:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 16:52:09 GMT -5
We are seeing the full impact of streaming now. Take that component out and the chart would be different. Think about songs like Radioactive, SAIL, etc. that have hung on way past their sales/radio expiration dates. However, they are incredibly strong on streaming. It's kind of the bait-and-switch - the initial shock with the chart shake up when the streaming component was changed last year (Harlem Shake, Stay, etc.), led us to believe we'd be seeing major chart shake-ups (and we did at times), but after adjusting the formula in December after all those old songs became viral hits, it has just caused sludge on the charts. I used to get excited about the charts, but the past few months have definitely tempered that. Streaming has to be the reason that Katy Perry's DH is STILL top 3 after dropping from #1 8 weeks ago. It's still above 200 million AI so that probably helps too. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Apr 16, 2014 16:52:43 GMT -5
The top 7 is the same for the fourth straight week. Get real, Hot 100. Edit: Oh the article clearly says that, and acknowledges that this is, in fact, a record. "All of Me" has four weeks at #2 without hitting #1... Can it pass "Gangnam Style's" 7 weeks? Or the two record holders: 10 weeks for "Waiting For a Girl Like You" (Foreigner) and "Work It" (Missy Elliott)? Exhale (Shoop, Shoop) was #2 for 11 weeks. |
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Post by Gary on Apr 16, 2014 16:55:25 GMT -5
The top 7 is the same for the fourth straight week. Get real, Hot 100. Edit: Oh the article clearly says that, and acknowledges that this is, in fact, a record. "All of Me" has four weeks at #2 without hitting #1... Can it pass "Gangnam Style's" 7 weeks? Or the two record holders: 10 weeks for "Waiting For a Girl Like You" (Foreigner) and "Work It" (Missy Elliott)? Exhale (Shoop, Shoop) was #2 for 11 weeks. Key phrase in his statement "without hitting #1" |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Apr 16, 2014 16:56:02 GMT -5
^ Y'know, this is kind of like what happened when the Hot 100 started using monitored BDS and Soundscan after years of reported info: The first few weeks, we were all stunned that songs could debut at #3 or get to #1 within two weeks, thinking that it would mean that the chart would be faster than ever. The irony is - and for a variety of reasons - it led to the slowest the chart had been in 40+ years with static top 10s, endless #1 runs, and chart longevity awards. Could we be in for more of the same? But it clearly reflects what is actually going on much more than what was before. I always roll my eyes when people who watch the charts praise the pre-SS/BDS era. Yes, it might have been faster, and there might have been more turnover, but it was much more easily manipulatable and not as accurate. More than ever, the charts of today directly reflect what is going on at the consumer end and what is actually bringing in more money (which is the point of the Hot 100) without record label heads and radio DJs manipulating data. Radio payolla deals thru clear channel. Hmmm.... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 16:56:37 GMT -5
Wait... Billboard said this is the 3rd week the top 7 have stayed the same, did they make an error, or did LTIT make an error?
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Post by icefire9 on Apr 16, 2014 16:56:50 GMT -5
Its not just streaming that's causing this, its the decrease in sales as well. Streaming and airplay are both very slow moving charts, while sales is the dynamic chart. With sales decreasing now, their influence on the Hot 100 is waning.
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