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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 23:14:42 GMT -5
Wait did I legit say that b/c idk I think you're an indpendent wtf was I thinking? Idk I'm not sober let me sleep tell patty I said hi even tho he hates me Kunt4President
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 23:15:20 GMT -5
New pages, aren't they just the worst.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 23:16:26 GMT -5
I say stupid shit all the time nevermind fuck this shit I want a taco
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 23:16:55 GMT -5
vote: Max
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Post by popstop on May 16, 2014 23:17:34 GMT -5
I don't even understand Kunt's last message.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 23:18:00 GMT -5
I say stupid s**t all the time nevermind f**k this s**t I want a taco Anyways, I'm going to bed. I'll be on briefly in the morning and out all day because of my Gaga concert.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 16, 2014 23:18:26 GMT -5
Here are the roles
Kurt - vanilla town (confirmed: dead) Devin - vanilla town (confirmed: dead) WotUNeed - town tracker (confirmed: dead) Nick - town doctor (confirmed: dead) Laheyonce - town cop (confirmed: dead) Az - town watcher (confirmed: dead) Josh - town one shot day vigilante (confirmed: dead)
Zebra - mafia roleblocker (confirmed: dead) Rocky - mafia tracker (confirmed: dead) Ginger Spice - mafia goon (confirmed: dead)
Codex - town agent (claimed) Max - town letter writer (claimed) Invincible - vanilla town (claimed) Kunt - vanilla town (claimed) Popstop - vanilla town (claimed) Surfboardt - vanilla town (claimed) Drag - vanilla town (claimed)
Going through this list here, I think Kunt and Drag are both town because they both resisted lynching me when they had perfect opportunity to, especially when there was enough justification to do it. I also believe popstop to be town because of whatever it was I said when I did a run-through of his game toward the end of Day 3. That leaves Invincible, Surfboardt and Codex. I believe Codex is *something*, whatever scum. I have said I believe Surfboardt to be town for most of the game due to his "newbie" status though I've questioned that recently. The only thing though, it's presumed that if he's mafia, he's working alone and has since Ginger was killed. If he's independent, he's been working alone for the entire game. Would a newbie had been able to play as well as this game's independent? (I don't mean to downplay Surfboardt as a player. I just know if I were independent, I doubt I'd have made the choices this game's indie has made. I probably would have offed Kunt sooner, for example).
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 23:18:51 GMT -5
You're not sober so you're votes literally mean shit rn
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 16, 2014 23:20:12 GMT -5
Wait did I legit say that b/c idk I think you're an indpendent wtf was I thinking? Idk I'm not sober let me sleep tell patty I said hi even tho he hates me You changed your mind later on (as usual, probably a few times actually). I don't think Patty hates you. Well, maybe, but I tell him who to hate and like on this board and you aren't on the h8 list (anymore). <3
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Post by SuperLaLaLa~ on May 16, 2014 23:22:32 GMT -5
Vote Count~
Surfboardt: 2 (Drag, Invincible) M.A.X.: 1 (Kunt) Codex: 1 (M.A.X.)
Not Voting: popstop, Surfboardt!, Codex
With 7 alive, it takes 4to lynch.
Deadline is in ~143 hours (May 22nd, 11:00pm EST).
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Post by popstop on May 16, 2014 23:23:32 GMT -5
I think Surf is mafia. And does it really matter at this point if he is mafia or independent? They are both working alone, so if we get one of them, we will prevent a night kill. I think mafia is the better lead because we have gotten Zebra, Rocky, and Ginger.
Max, I believe you are town fwiw.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 23:25:44 GMT -5
Surfboardt! is also the one who resembles the other mafia members the most, so it makes a lot of sense for him to be mafia.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 16, 2014 23:25:54 GMT -5
I do want to point out that both Codex and I survived the night. We are the only two claimed town-power roles left. Does anyone else find it strange that both of the killed players were the other two power roles and not Codex or I? It's as if they were coordinated to not over-lap but also to not take out either of us.
It's weird because even if both the remaining mafia and the independent individually decided to take out josh and Az, there was still a 50% chance that their picks would overlap.
It's just strange. It's like whoever made the night kills didn't want to take the chance on taking out the other non-town so they avoided us...but obviously my thought is that Codex made one of the kills and purposely avoided me because his game heavily depends on me.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 23:29:12 GMT -5
That argument actually makes sense to me, I'm considering Codex as my vote now, but I think Surfboardt is mafia more than anything atm so I think I wanna keep my vote there.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 23:29:58 GMT -5
Deleted one post since double post just to clarify.
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Post by popstop on May 16, 2014 23:34:52 GMT -5
If i's Codex, that makes sense, though Codex could make the same argument about you. And honestly, I feel like you are both town because neither of you have done anything really scummy. I think someone is setting you two up against each other. And if you and Codex focus on each other, that means the focus is off someone else more deserving. (I'm looking at you, Surfboardt!)
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 16, 2014 23:36:24 GMT -5
There is the possibility that both of us could be town I suppose but then there's the fact that we both pretty much have the same power role (albeit with different role titles) that doesn't make sense. Come to think of it, is that the only reason why it's presumed we can't both be town?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 23:37:43 GMT -5
There is the possibility that both of us could be town I suppose but then there's the fact that we both pretty much have the same power role (albeit with different role titles) that doesn't make sense. Come to think of it, is that the only reason why it's presumed we can't both be town? Maybe Super set it up that way so that it would cause extreme confusion in case we all role-claimed in the late stages.
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Post by popstop on May 16, 2014 23:40:53 GMT -5
That's my theory. And that way one of you get lynched today. :/
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 16, 2014 23:47:07 GMT -5
So it *may* be safer to go after someone that isn't myself or Codex?
The problem comes with deciding who. I think most of us feel that Surfboardt is at least somewhat suspicious.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 16, 2014 23:48:05 GMT -5
But then a mislynch would mean another 2 kills, bringing us down to 4 people: 2 town, 2 scum. We can't afford a mislynch.
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Post by popstop on May 17, 2014 0:04:13 GMT -5
Ugh, that's true! Surf is my top suspicion for now, but I'll hold off on voting so he's not at L-1. He hasn't had a chance to say anything yet. I'm gonna hit up a few of the DZs and then go to bed.
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Post by surfy on May 17, 2014 0:09:12 GMT -5
Seriously??? How am I suspicious, give me evidence, quote me, and I will explain myself the best I can.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 2:09:26 GMT -5
I feel really stupid for having tunnel vision on Max... After sleeping on it, I don't think he would make up a role.
Going back to my suspicion before Max, SURFBOARDT
Imo he has the most likely connection to Rocky, based on his 2 analysis's (posted this yesterday). He was also one of the 3 people who voted for Kurt but not Rocky. Now he and Kunt are the only two to vote for Kurt, but not Ginger or Rocky. I still don't think Kunt is scum, although I would look into him in an endgame situation.
I'm going to wait a bit before voting him though, especially since he's L-2 and I want to evaluate more players.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 2:18:22 GMT -5
Btw I didn't send a PM tonight cause it's pointless
also I forgot until last minute and didn't have any ideas
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 2:29:35 GMT -5
There is the possibility that both of us could be town I suppose but then there's the fact that we both pretty much have the same power role (albeit with different role titles) that doesn't make sense. Come to think of it, is that the only reason why it's presumed we can't both be town? That's what I've been thinking. I think he wanted to give you a different role title as flavor and to confuse the hell out of us, so he made up something for you. If that's true... Girl better watch out when I get in the greenroom >:[ I dont think we can afford a mislynch, thats why I'm refraining from voting Surfboardt for now. Like you said, we'd be down to 2 townies, one mafia, one independent They need a majority over the other players to win, which wouldn't happen yet, but even if we lynch scum tomorrow, the next day would start with one townie and one scum... = scum win. We CANNOT afford a mislynch today.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 7:08:59 GMT -5
Time to look through Ginger's posts. He doesn't have much... but At the risk of also just re-voicing other people's opinions, I also find Julian's analysis very suspicious. It just seemed like a watered down version of what everyone else was saying. And I think the "let's just kill Kurt because even if he's town we'll learn something" idea is very scum like and a dangerous way to think. Maybe if the deadline was in a few hours, but we've still got two good days to make that decision. It just seems like such a cop-out. Vote: JulianUmm, ok. Wow at Zebra being mafia. He wasn't on my radar at all. Glad we at least got one, and didn't lose three townies. As for the Wot U Need killing, it certainly makes Drag look suspicious since Wot thought he was scum. FoS Julian.We have an independent for sure. What makes you so sure? It could be two mafia fractions. Judging by past games, having an independent would probably make things more interesting since they normally have some crazy power or something, but like I said, we could just have two standard mafia fractions. I'm gonna go ahead and Vote: Julian because he's been acting pretty scummy and he has the motive for taking out WotUNeed, since Wot was really suspicious of him. Of course, someone could have framed him, but it's motive.But yes, I've stated my suspicions about Drag that I've stuck by. Initially my suspicion was raised by WotUNeed's post voting for Drag, but my suspicion of him grew beyond that. He's almost been dodgy (in contrast to my overt defensiveness) and will get mad when people vote for him but won't even bother to actually defend himself. Not to mention, there was motive for the WotUNeed kill. Um. Ok, considering the mafia killed WotUNeed, I really don't think Drag is mafia. Especially since he was on both the Rocky and Ginger lynches. Small side eye to Kunt though, I don't remember anyone else bringing up the theory: DragHe would've had motive for killing Wot. "Analysis": I'm mildly suspicious of Lahey. His playing was really bad at first, which makes him seem town but could also be strategy. It seemed fairly innocent, though. Surfboart, popstop, Az, and josh I really could see going either way. Josh did say the same thing as me about not lynching someone too quickly, which makes me lean towards him being town. I was suspicious of Codex day one but he's gone back to more middle of the road for me. I'm not really sure what to think of him. Rocky seems scummy, but I can't put my finger on why. This may just be because others have been suspicious of him, but it feels like there's more to it. Kunt I think is town, and I think that's the general consensus on him. That said, I am still a little worried about him because a lot of this game has been lead by him, and he's very convincing, so if he IS scum we're probably in trouble. The only suspicion I have of Max - the ry4n replacement still bothers me a bit. The replacement seemed random, and if I remember correctly the only reasoning was that he was busy? (Someone can correct me if I'm wrong) but I just thought it was kind of odd because most people in this game were really busy at the beginning. I just think it could have been a possible scum strategy that maybe his teammates came up with because they knew his inactivity would be considered suspicious so they convinced him to quit and hoped the replacement would be more active? (The idea sounded better in my head, but I just thought I would put this out there at the small chance that it might help us.) Max's gameplay has seemed fairly normal, however. #Habit has seemed town to me from the beginning. The only thing I find him suspicious on is that he has the attitude of "I'd be okay with lynching a weak townie" [starting here] which is probably an okay stance to have when it's less than 48 hours to the deadline, but we've got time. I just think it's bad gameplay, but nothing has majorly screamed scum at me. So maybe he's worth taking more of a look at? Invince has seemed pretty normal but has seemed overly defensive lately and seems awfully sure of himself despite constant opinion changes (he went from saying Lahey was an almost 100% sure townie to being his top suspect in 24 hours). Also in the post above me, voted for be by saying "Based off all the townies being against Ginger Spice..." Admitting his own bandwagoning? Not sure what to make of it but I *think* Invincible isn't mafia? Kurt: 9 (Devin, Az, Kunt, Rocky, Drag, Surfboardt!, Invincible, M.A.X., josh)Rocky: 7 (M.A.X., popstop, Drag, Kunt, nick64, Invincible, Rocky) Ginger Spice: 6 (popstop, josh, Drag, Invincible, M.A.X., Codex)
Now he and Kunt are the only two to vote for Kurt, but not Ginger or Rocky. Ok I should have fact checked before writing this but I was in my bed so shut up. I was right about Surfboardt however, he voted to lynch Kurt, and never voted to lynch Rocky. He voted for Ginger many times, but he took off his vote when he got close to a lynch. (L-2) (5 votes) Unvote (Ginger Spice) The reason for this is to prevent a lynch, I just need some time to make sure I believe Ginger is mafia! I'm gonna wait a while and really look for suspicious posts! Then when he want down to L-6 (1 vote), he put his vote back Alright almost nothing new has brought me any suspicion, sticking with my original vote! Vote (Ginger Spice)Yesterday he voted Ginger, switched to MAX and waited until Ginger was lynched to come in and say that he "was planning on hammering" I was actually thinking about hammering Ginger, but then I clicked the next page and saw the hammer vote, and I have to say I am happy (unless he turns out to be town...) and I REALLY REALLY hope he's scum like I've always thought he was. It seems really transparent... I think he's most likely the last mafia member.
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Post by popstop on May 17, 2014 7:48:38 GMT -5
Yesterday he voted Ginger, switched to MAX and waited until Ginger was lynched to come in and say that he "was planning on hammering" I was actually thinking about hammering Ginger, but then I clicked the next page and saw the hammer vote, and I have to say I am happy (unless he turns out to be town...) and I REALLY REALLY hope he's scum like I've always thought he was. It seems really transparent... I think he's most likely the last mafia member. [/quote] Yes, this is the point when Surf went on my radar. I don't get bad vibes from anyone else on here. I know one of you is hiding your scumminess really well, but it's clear to me that Surf is not. We need to make sure we knock one of them off today, and I don't want to risk my vote on someone else. Vote: Surfboardt
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 7:50:24 GMT -5
Possible Mafia: - I said in my previous post why Drag can't be mafia - I've said a million times why I don't think Kunt is mafia - MAX was also on both Rocky and Ginger's lynches, and there's nothing connecting them in my eyes - Invincible was also on both Rocky and Ginger's lynches - Popstop was also on both lynches, early, and not on Kurt's lynch.
I still think MAX could be Independent, either him or Drag. But I really can't see anyone else being Mafia... I'm 90% sure he is the last member. We NEED a scum kill today, I can't chance MAX or Drag being town.
Vote: Surfboardt
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 7:50:55 GMT -5
oh my god
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