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Post by 14887fan on Jun 4, 2014 19:44:36 GMT -5
Updating this post as the show goes on... -The opening: the very reason why I drink. -Kristen Bell: amazing. That opening skit was hysterical. That opening monologue was 10x better. Loved that she called out the bro-country phase on its s**t. -The guys in The Band Perry need to either cut their hair or wear bald caps because you know it's getting out of control when it looks like it could be Carrie's hair in a darker shade. -Hunter Hayes is not a good live vocalist. At. All. Jesus Christ. -Cassadee's acceptance speech was cute. -God bless Kacey & Lee Ann. (And Carrie <3) -Tyler Farr can't sing live for shit, either. I see a trend beginning tonight. -Stunned that Blake Shelton beat Luke Bryan for Male Video, but if this is an indication that he may get shutout tonight altogether, then I'm not complaining.
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Post by McCreerian on Jun 4, 2014 20:04:45 GMT -5
Alan Jackson tribute was the only thing Country about this show tonight!
And Tyler Farr...thank God he only got 20 seconds...he was so out of key I'm not sure the key exists he was in!
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Post by Kat5Kind on Jun 4, 2014 20:06:21 GMT -5
Okay, this is what I'm tired of. It's called new country. It's not going to be traditional music. If you don't like it, why are you watching?
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jun 4, 2014 20:07:48 GMT -5
Carrie's three Jackson lines were the highlight, so far. Loved Kacey and LeAnn too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 20:10:07 GMT -5
CMT's Facebook page: Comments sorted by most likes (all of these posts have from 10-60 likes each): I could go on and on...there are hundreds of comments. And for every 100 comments or so, there might be 2-3 ones claiming that they liked it, but their excuses basically hinge on their opinion that "Luke Bryan is sexy". Country radio, CMT, and so many aspects of the industry have left thousands and thousands of country music fans in the dust...because they hardly play country music anymore. :(
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Post by Kat5Kind on Jun 4, 2014 20:13:36 GMT -5
I don't like Jason Derulo being brought into it. That's the only thing I don't like. Also, good Lord, Thomas Rhett is irritating. Aside from those two, the show's been pretty good except for the bajillion commercials.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 20:14:45 GMT -5
Okay, this is what I'm tired of. It's called new country. It's not going to be traditional music. If you don't like it, why are you watching? When "new country" is so far removed from "old country", there are bound to be plenty of people upset. So many country music fans (as evidenced by my last post) are upset with the direction country radio and country music are heading in, because the new stuff has virtually nothing in common with the 'old' stuff. The new stuff has plenty of fans too, obviously...but many artists and fans have nowhere to turn to, since country radio won't play their kind of country anymore. And that's precisely why the genre is likely going to fracture. I'd prefer that the new stuff and the stations that continue to play it rename itself as a separate genre, and the stations that choose to flip towards more traditional country and 90's/00's artists get to be the ones still classified as country, but that's probably just wishful thinking on my part. Luke Bryan, Thomas Rhett, Nelly, Jason Derulo, and Florida Georgia Line will probably all be labeled as "country artists" whereas George Strait, Tim McGraw, and anyone who was popular from the 80's to 2005/2010 (ish) will be labeled as "classic country" or whatever they decide to market the Nash Icons/fragmented format as.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jun 4, 2014 20:16:50 GMT -5
It's honestly hard to watch these... The performances are either vocally cringeworthy, or just not country. I'm not one to be all gloomy about country not being "country", but to a certain extent I completely agree. AT LEAST Carrie, Rascal Flatts, Keith Urban and other pop-leaning country artists respect country. By that, I mean there are/is recognizable country characteristics in their catalog(s) and performance(s). Luke and FGL, particularly, seem to be members of a completely different genre... It's sad, really.
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Post by McCreerian on Jun 4, 2014 20:17:28 GMT -5
Okay, this is what I'm tired of. It's called new country. It's not going to be traditional music. If you don't like it, why are you watching? It's like watching the car crashes in a Nascar race! Some find it fun to watch the painful explosions!
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Post by Kat5Kind on Jun 4, 2014 20:19:07 GMT -5
Okay, this is what I'm tired of. It's called new country. It's not going to be traditional music. If you don't like it, why are you watching? When "new country" is so far removed from "old country", there are bound to be plenty of people upset. So many country music fans (as evidenced by my last post) are upset with the direction country radio and country music are heading in, because the new stuff has virtually nothing in common with the 'old' stuff. The new stuff has plenty of fans too, obviously...but many artists and fans have nowhere to turn to, since country radio won't play their kind of country anymore. And that's precisely why the genre is likely going to fracture. I'd prefer that the new stuff and the stations that continue to play it rename itself as a separate genre, and the stations that choose to flip towards more traditional country and 90's/00's artists get to be the ones still classified as country. Then why not two stations instead? Let classic get its own channel. But this is country, just in a different form. All genres evolve.
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Post by schoolsout on Jun 4, 2014 20:19:54 GMT -5
The opening performance was an abomination. I need Florida Georgia Line and Luke Bryan to disappear, preferably forever.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jun 4, 2014 20:20:56 GMT -5
Updating this post as the show goes on... -The opening: the very reason why I drink. -Kristen Bell: amazing. That opening skit was hysterical. That opening monologue was 10x better. Loved that she called out the bro-country phase on its s**t. -The guys in The Band Perry need to either cut their hair or wear bald caps because you know it's getting out of control when it looks like it could be Carrie's hair in a darker shade. -Hunter Hayes is not a good live vocalist. At. All. Jesus Christ. -Cassadee's acceptance speech was cute. -God bless Kacey & Lee Ann. (And Carrie <3) -Tyler Farr can't sing live for s**t, either. I see a trend beginning tonight. -Stunned that Blake Shelton beat Luke Bryan for Male Video, but if this is an indication that he may get shutout tonight altogether, then I'm not complaining. Nope.
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Post by bigfan101 on Jun 4, 2014 20:22:08 GMT -5
First half thoughts:
-Pop music can keep Jason DeRulo and they can take Luke Bryan and Florida Georgia Line. We don't want them back. - Kristen Bell is hilarious; nailing this hosting gig. - The Band Perry's acceptance speech had to be prepped - Cassadee/Blake moment was awesome, as was her speech - hunter Hayes sounded TERRIBLE, wow bad - LeeAnn and Kacey were awesome what a great tribute! - Loved the setup with Keith's performance, he nailed if! - Jake's performance was fun! Glad he got a slot. - Eric Church...not good. - Nationwide stage---Danielle and Thomas good, Tyler yuck.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jun 4, 2014 20:25:30 GMT -5
Terrible arrangement of "All of Me" and Jennifer/John do not sound good together... I thought this would be great, but no. Their on key and all, but their voices do not mend well together, in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 20:27:11 GMT -5
Then why not two stations instead? Let classic get its own channel. But this is country, just in a different form. Ummm...I don't know? Ask the big bosses of corporate radio. It's more complicated than simply saying "oh, we should have one 'classic country' station for every 'traditional country' station". To you this is country music, but to me (and many, many others who have given up on today's country radio), it's not. Calling something "country" doesn't make it country. I've always identified music as country if it had strong, intelligent lyrics, songs about real life that people could relate to, and generally had instruments that were more or less unique to the format (banjo, steel guitar, fiddle, etc). That's just generalizing, but I hope you can see my point. Nowadays it's party music, about getting drunk and getting laid in the back of a pickup truck, and that's not country to me. I find it to be just mindless noise. A change in the sound/style of the popular music at genre-based radio ≠ evolution. I just hate this rebuttal. Genres changing don't necessarily mean that they're evolving. With country radio slowly moving away from country music, that doesn't mean that country music/radio has evolved. It simply means that country radio is playing a completely different style of music than they used to.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Jun 4, 2014 20:32:23 GMT -5
Hunter was likely distracted by the fact his grandmother died yesterday, thank you very much. I'm still not happy about the opening performance. I don't know what they were thinking because the song was fine how it was in the first place. Kristin's skits are eh. The performances since then I've liked except for Thomas and Tyler. I don't mind the awards too much although no one has won who I want to win. Also, CMT has too many commercials on this award show.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jun 4, 2014 20:35:42 GMT -5
"Drunk on a Plane"
Really, Dierks?
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Post by 14887fan on Jun 4, 2014 20:41:01 GMT -5
Collaborative Video of the Year: "This is How We Roll" ...welp. Hunter was likely distracted by the fact his grandmother died yesterday, thank you very much. I mean, RIP to her and my condolences to him and all, but he still can't sing well live.
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Post by carriekins on Jun 4, 2014 20:42:12 GMT -5
Dierks... you're better than stupid dancing flight attendants.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jun 4, 2014 20:44:55 GMT -5
Hunter was likely distracted by the fact his grandmother died yesterday, thank you very much. I'm still not happy about the opening performance. I don't know what they were thinking because the song was fine how it was in the first place. Kristin's skits are eh. The performances since then I've liked except for Thomas and Tyler. I don't mind the awards too much although no one has won who I want to win. Also, CMT has too many commercials on this award show. With all due respect to Hunter and his grandmother, what's his reason for lackluster vocal performances everywhere else? I want to love him as an artist, and I do --- recorded. But live, he is consistently terrible. Although you may paint this as a slight toward him and/or his grandmother, it's not. It's solely a comment on his lackluster live vocals.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2014 20:46:45 GMT -5
"Drunk on a Plane" Really, Dierks? The song, or the performance? (I don't have CMT so I can't watch, not that I'd want to watch most of tonight's show) "Drunk On A Plane" doesn't bother me in the slightest--in fact, it's one of my favorite songs out right now. Musical taste is subjective, but I think DOAP is a happy medium between the contemporary sounds of today and a song that actually tells a story. Here's this guy whose fiance left him, but he couldn't get the money for the honeymoon trip to Cancun refunded, so he goes on the plane by himself and loads up on alcohol to drown his heartache. It's very contemporary and incorporates popular themes of today (drinking/party songs) but yet there's more to it than that. It's hilarious, and yet underneath it all, it's a breakup song. He's not name-dropping Hank while he drives his jacked-up truck to the riverside in hopes of getting laid. Dierks has shown strong musicianship on his Riser album...DOAP is easily the most lightweight song on there, and yet it's a fun song with enough quality aspects to it that I can fully support it. But perhaps you were talking about the performance and not the song itself.. (in which case ignore this entire post justifying why I like DOAP, lol)
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Post by tonyei31 on Jun 4, 2014 20:49:37 GMT -5
Just an awful show. Absolutely "love" seeing "talent" like Tyler Farr, Hunter Hayes and others. It's really sad when voices like Chris Stapleton, Kellie Pickler, or a genius like Jason Isbell can't break through yet we continue to be force fed some of the crap on radio and that particular sound does not match
Music does evolve but most of the times it would keep the talent. Take 90's pop radio....you went from Nirvana, Goo Goo Dolls, etc. to Matchbox 20 and Third Eye Blind. Sound evolved and changed but the talent remained very strong.
Country music has an evolved sound where the talent does not justify the level of evolvement. When you completely open up the avenues where individuals or groups with no talent (FGL, Tyler Farr) can make it by its looks that's a problem while true talent just sits and toils.
Country music has hit a breaking point. The pendulum has swung too far to the "non-country" side and people are starting to rebel, heck even some of country's acts are. They are sick of the FGL's of the world. They have a place on country radio but they shouldn't be all that country radio is. That's where the problem lies.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jun 4, 2014 20:50:08 GMT -5
"Drunk on a Plane" Really, Dierks? The song, or the performance? (I don't have CMT so I can't watch, not that I'd want to watch most of tonight's show) "Drunk On A Plane" doesn't bother me in the slightest--in fact, it's one of my favorite songs out right now. Musical taste is subjective, but I think DOAP is a happy medium between the contemporary sounds of today and a song that actually tells a story. Here's this guy whose fiance left him, but he couldn't get the money for the honeymoon trip to Cancun refunded, so he goes on the plane by himself and loads up on alcohol to drown his heartache. It's very contemporary and incorporates popular themes of today (drinking/party songs) but yet there's more to it than that. It's hilarious, and yet underneath it all, it's a breakup song. He's not name-dropping Hank while he drives his jacked-up truck to the riverside in hopes of getting laid. Dierks has shown strong musicianship on his Riser album...DOAP is easily the most lightweight song on there, and yet it's a fun song with enough quality aspects to it that I can fully support it. But perhaps you were talking about the performance and not the song itself.. (in which case ignore this entire post justifying why I like DOAP, lol) In all honesty, I was just looking forward to a performance NOT about drinking/partying/hooking up... I thought he'd deliver that. The song is catchy, and I agree with your sentiments, I just wanted something different. The performance was fine, FYI, definitely one of the best so far.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Jun 4, 2014 20:51:19 GMT -5
Hunter was likely distracted by the fact his grandmother died yesterday, thank you very much. I'm still not happy about the opening performance. I don't know what they were thinking because the song was fine how it was in the first place. Kristin's skits are eh. The performances since then I've liked except for Thomas and Tyler. I don't mind the awards too much although no one has won who I want to win. Also, CMT has too many commercials on this award show. With all due respect to Hunter and his grandmother, what's his reason for lackluster vocal performances everywhere else? I want to love him as an artist, and I do --- recorded. But live, he is consistently terrible. Although you may paint this as a slight toward him and/or his grandmother, it's not. It's solely a comment on his lackluster live vocals. He performs well at his own shows. At awards he gets way too nervous and his vocals go all over the place. I don't blame him for that because it has to be pretty unnerving performing in front of these people he looks up to. Try putting yourself in his shoes.
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Post by 14887fan on Jun 4, 2014 20:52:37 GMT -5
This show has sucked. I'd be f**king embarrassed if I was a woman in this genre. Just an awful show. Absolutely "love" seeing "talent" like Tyler Farr, Hunter Hayes and others. It's really sad when voices like Chris Stapleton, Kellie Pickler, or a genius like Jason Isbell can't break through yet we continue to be force fed some of the crap on radio and that particular sound does not match Music does evolve but most of the times it would keep the talent. Take 90's pop radio....you went from Nirvana, Goo Goo Dolls, etc. to Matchbox 20 and Third Eye Blind. Sound evolved and changed but the talent remained very strong. Country music has an evolved sound where the talent does not justify the level of evolvement. When you completely open up the avenues where individuals or groups with no talent (FGL, Tyler Farr) can make it by its looks that's a problem while true talent just sits and toils. Country music has hit a breaking point. The pendulum has swung too far to the "non-country" side and people are starting to rebel, heck even some of country's acts are. They are sick of the FGL's of the world. They have a place on country radio but they shouldn't be all that country radio is. That's where the problem lies. An actual excerpt taken directly from the Bible. Preach. ETA: wait God bless Dan + Shay for singing a good song and actually singing it fucking well; finally, real vocalists.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 4, 2014 20:52:47 GMT -5
Hunter clearly is not among the best live performers. That doesn't mean he's not a genuinely talented artist because I think he is. But I think we can agree that his vocals on award shows are batting .000 right now. I'm confident he's better in his regular concerts but by my ears he's sounds like he's struggling.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jun 4, 2014 20:54:10 GMT -5
Dan and Shay... literally the best vocal performance of the night. Bravo!
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 4, 2014 20:55:35 GMT -5
With all due respect to Hunter and his grandmother, what's his reason for lackluster vocal performances everywhere else? I want to love him as an artist, and I do --- recorded. But live, he is consistently terrible. Although you may paint this as a slight toward him and/or his grandmother, it's not. It's solely a comment on his lackluster live vocals. He performs well at his own shows. At awards he gets way too nervous and his vocals go all over the place. I don't blame him for that because it has to be pretty unnerving performing in front of these people he looks up to. Try putting yourself in his shoes. What about most of the other artists who do sound good in front of their peers?
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Post by McCreerian on Jun 4, 2014 20:57:33 GMT -5
These are lyrics to Scotty McCreery's "Something More." He is 20 and wrote this song and understands what most fans way older than him want to hear. This sure as hell is what I want out Country music...
By now I think I've heard every line There is to hear 'bout a truck And I've got the point that the beer tastes good When you're down on your luck But don't get me wrong a summer song Sounds good when you're on the shore But every now and then I wanna dig in And hear something that means something more
Like a mama's love even when she don't approve Four generations sittin' on the same church pew A soldier's first steps back through his own front door Yeah, something that means something more
It's amazing how this old guitar Can say so many things It can laugh, it can cry It can bring you fortune and fame But now as I'm sittin' down strummin' out these chords I'm praying that it's saying Something that means something more
Like a long lost friend on the other end of the line A daddy's eyes when he holds his baby for the first time Grandpa goin' to meet Grandma and the Lord Yeah, something that means something more
Saying "I do," puttin' that ring on Gettin' the news that the cancer's gone Knowing that man up on the cross in a crown of thorns Yeah, something that means something Oh, something that means something Something that means something more Something more
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Post by Kat5Kind on Jun 4, 2014 20:58:52 GMT -5
He performs well at his own shows. At awards he gets way too nervous and his vocals go all over the place. I don't blame him for that because it has to be pretty unnerving performing in front of these people he looks up to. Try putting yourself in his shoes. What about most of the other artists who do sound good in front of their peers? They have better control over their nerves. He does need to work on that, I'll admit.
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