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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Sept 10, 2014 13:35:10 GMT -5
John Dickey: NASH Syndication Expanding Beyond Cumulus Stations, ICON A 24/7 Format Cumulus is going "full speed ahead" for it's country NASH brands. In an exclusive interview with All Access, EVP Programming John Dickey revealed that the NASH brand will begin to be syndicated outside of Cumulus beginning in January 2015 -- And beginning in October, the NASH ICON brand will be available as a 24/7 format via KIRK STIRLAND and his team at Westwood One. Read Whole Interview Courtesy Of All Access No kind of expansion is going to fix the problem that Nash Icon is still trying to appeal to everyone and they are NOT following through with what Dicky has promised. The last three mornings Ive tuned in for my morning drive to work only to find Aldean's "Burning It Up" or Owen's "Summer Jam". I just plug up my ipod & go about my business. Eventually , I'm gonna tire of checking though. I seriously doubt the demo they are trying to reach is hankering to hear Bro-"Country" garbage squeezed between George Strait & Doug Stone. You can't make a second first impression.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 10, 2014 13:54:12 GMT -5
John Dickey: NASH Syndication Expanding Beyond Cumulus Stations, ICON A 24/7 Format Cumulus is going "full speed ahead" for it's country NASH brands. In an exclusive interview with All Access, EVP Programming John Dickey revealed that the NASH brand will begin to be syndicated outside of Cumulus beginning in January 2015 -- And beginning in October, the NASH ICON brand will be available as a 24/7 format via KIRK STIRLAND and his team at Westwood One. Read Whole Interview Courtesy Of All Access No kind of expansion is going to fix the problem that Nash Icon is still trying to appeal to everyone and they are NOT following through with what Dicky has promised. The last three mornings Ive tuned in for my morning drive to work only to find Aldean's "Burning It Up" or Owen's "Summer Jam". I just plug up my ipod & go about my business. Eventually , I'm gonna tire of checking though. I seriously doubt the demo they are trying to reach is hankering to hear Bro-"Country" garbage squeezed between George Strait & Doug Stone. You can't make a second first impression. I've only listened once, and I wasn't fully impressed since they left some "Bro" songs in there. But what I'm hearing from you along with others thus far has me concerned about NASH ICONS, which I was timid about in the first place. Hopefully Dickey can follow through with the overall programming with these stations, but so far I'm disheartened.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Sept 10, 2014 14:04:57 GMT -5
No kind of expansion is going to fix the problem that Nash Icon is still trying to appeal to everyone and they are NOT following through with what Dicky has promised. The last three mornings Ive tuned in for my morning drive to work only to find Aldean's "Burning It Up" or Owen's "Summer Jam". I just plug up my ipod & go about my business. Eventually , I'm gonna tire of checking though. I seriously doubt the demo they are trying to reach is hankering to hear Bro-"Country" garbage squeezed between George Strait & Doug Stone. You can't make a second first impression. I've only listened once, and I wasn't fully impressed since they left some "Bro" songs in there. But what I'm hearing from you along with others thus far has me concerned about NASH ICONS, which I was timid about in the first place. Hopefully Dickey can follow through with the overall programming with these stations, but so far I'm disheartened. Yeah, nobody wants this to work more then me. I would LOVE to listen to radio again. But after quite a few years without listening to country radio and armed with a full 160 gig iPod, I also realize they need me more then I need them. I do cringe at the thought of the Nash Icon brand crash & burning and then it being used as an argument though. "See? Look we tried a classic format & we couldn't hold listeners"....
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 10, 2014 14:16:27 GMT -5
I've only listened once, and I wasn't fully impressed since they left some "Bro" songs in there. But what I'm hearing from you along with others thus far has me concerned about NASH ICONS, which I was timid about in the first place. Hopefully Dickey can follow through with the overall programming with these stations, but so far I'm disheartened. Yeah, nobody wants this to work more then me. I would LOVE to listen to radio again. But after quite a few years without listening to country radio and armed with a full 160 gig iPod, I also realize they need me more then I need them. I do cringe at the thought of the Nash Icon brand crash & burning and then it being used as an argument though. "See? Look we tried a classic format & we couldn't hold listeners".... God, I hope it won't come to that. I think jhomes87 is right in the sense that we need to give them some time for the transitional phase of flipping stations to this "format", and Dickey does have me somewhat hopeful. But I must say, if there's one, and only one type of music that should have stayed off the NASH ICON brand from the start, it was "That's My Kind Of Night", "Get Me Some Of That", and the rest of those "bro" songs. I don't think it's too difficult to not play arguably the biggest reason why these stations were created in the first place.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Sept 10, 2014 14:34:06 GMT -5
What I find so irritating is they play "Summer Jam" in a pretty heavy rotation, when Jake's current single "What We Ain't Got" should fit's the format like a glove. Haven't heard it a single time.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 6, 2014 13:20:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 17:47:30 GMT -5
WSM (Cumulus' Nash Icon station in Nashville) beat out WKDF and WSIX, making it the #1 country station in Nashville last month. Of course, the most popular comment on the article (and the general public likely doesn't even know about AllAccess) is this:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 1:39:48 GMT -5
AllAccess has a really long Q&A with Scott Borchetta and John Dickey up on their site. You can read it here (it'll probably prompt you to log-in to your AllAccess account to read it). Among other things, Borchetta mentions that he realizes there may be sort of a wall in place, in that other radio groups (no specific ones mentioned, but he's almost certainly talking about Clear Channel) won't play Nash Icons music, at least at the start, since it is a partnership with Cumulus. AllAccess asked him who else is on his radar for Nash Icons, and he said that they're basically looking at anybody who was relevant from the late 80's through the 90's. He said he isn't going to give it away (as to who they plan on trying to sign), but he did specifically mention Martina McBride.
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Post by kml567 on Oct 25, 2014 7:54:42 GMT -5
But guess what songs have been on power rotation in the past month on Nash Icons? Burnin It Down, Leave The Night On, Dirt, etc. They also had Chase Rice on power in the past. The ratings will go way down if they ever refuse to play popular "bro" songs on Nash Icon. Right now, it's called a balanced playlist for Nash Icon. If they get rid of Jason/Sam/FGL, then they have a skewed playlist and lose the young demo that they were bragging about.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 27, 2014 14:41:17 GMT -5
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 27, 2014 21:09:08 GMT -5
Well, he'll only get played on Nash Icon stations given how he posted lengthy diatribes against CC (now iHeartRadio).
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Post by someguy on Oct 27, 2014 21:31:53 GMT -5
Well, he'll only get played on Nash Icon stations given how he posted lengthy diatribes against CC (now iHeartRadio). Yeah he really hasn't done himself any favours at radio. I'd be really surprised if he ever came close to charting again.
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 28, 2014 10:53:04 GMT -5
Well, he'll only get played on Nash Icon stations given how he posted lengthy diatribes against CC (now iHeartRadio). Yeah he really hasn't done himself any favours at radio. I'd be really surprised if he ever came close to charting again. Which is too bad cause he still has an ear for some good material ("Wish I Still Smoked Cigarettes" being one recent example).
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Oct 28, 2014 12:38:28 GMT -5
At 61 years old , there was zero chance of Ronnie Dunn getting anymore airplay anyways. I gained a ton of respect for him after he called it like he seen it.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 28, 2014 13:29:44 GMT -5
At 61 years old , there was zero chance of Ronnie Dunn getting anymore airplay anyways. I gained a ton of respect for him after he called it like he seen it. While I agree about what he said, it was a tad convenient I thought since Ronnie already had his time in the sun and figured since he was at the end of his radio career anyway, that he would say what he felt. Again, I respect him saying what he said about corporate country radio, but I just wish he had said it a few years ago. There's many factors to why he would including affecting Kix and others in the process but its something that's irked me I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 14:41:32 GMT -5
I don't know, I think the radio business has changed quite a bit in the last 10-15 years. It's way, way different for artists (new or otherwise) who are trying to get airplay now than it was for artists who first came on the scene back in the late 80's and 90's.
I think Ronnie has learned a lot ever since Brooks & Dunn split up. Before that I honestly don't think he knew much about all the behind the scenes stuff at radio and with labels and promotion stuff. Brooks & Dunn was huge--all they had to do was give radio new music and it got played. But then when the duo started to get older and when Kix went to Cumulus, I think that was really an eye-opener for Ronnie. And finally when Arista released his first solo record I think it all started hitting home for him, all of the crazy stuff he and his team needed to do in the fight to get airplay.
He's made posts about how new artists today basically have to play a bunch of free shows put on by radio stations in order to get airplay at those stations. I don't think he was aware of a lot of this stuff while B&D was at its height. I think he was just content in the success of his career and he seemingly just sat back and let the record label do whatever they needed to do. I don't think he really understood how much of a "game" it has become until the last couple of years, or all the manipulation/payola-type of loopholes that labels partake in.
When the big corporations came in and bought up all the radio stations, it made it a lot harder for artists to get airplay across the board unless they were well-liked and willing to do whatever it takes. I think most artists today understand the business but I think it was an eye-opener for Ronnie and also for guys like Gary Allan, who made comments about how today's big corporate radio is all about playing to demographics and not about actual styles/sounds of the particular genre that they claim to represent. When these guys first broke through it really wasn't like it is today, at all.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 28, 2014 14:54:33 GMT -5
^ See it's difficult for me to think that Ronnie was mostly clueless about what went on behind the scenes with country radio, promotion, labels, fighting for airplay, corporate country radio, etc.. It's absolutely understandable that because Kix and Ronnie were on top of the world that they didn't need to worry about those things. But for Ronnie to basically change his attitude because he just then found out about how cruddy the radio business can be is a bit farfetched to me.
I do believe that there are some major label artists who hate how much country radio has come to over the past 15 years but they of course would never voice their opinions. He didn't know as much as he did before he was solo and had more to do in terms of self-promotion but I don't sympathize with him even though I agree 100% with his feelings.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 21:40:28 GMT -5
I guess, from following all of Ronnie's Facebook posts, I really see things his way--I truly don't believe he was all that aware of the "business" side of things and all the brown-nosing that started to go on as radio became increasingly corporate. But I guess we just have to agree to disagree there. Anyway, Cumulus has flipped 3 more stations to Nash Icons and 3 more stations to the regular Nash brand as well. KTOP in Topeka, KS; KATC in Colorado Springs, CO; and KBUL in Reno, NV, have all adopted the Nash brand. Also, WELJ in New London, CT, will flip to the Nash brand at midnight tonight. It will be a simulcast of WNSH (the flagship Nash station) in New York City...so essentially it just extends WNSH's coverage to eastern Long Island and southern Connecticut. WELJ is currently airing the Top 40 format but that will change at midnight. Nash Icons: Former Classic Hits stations WORC in Worchester, MA, and WOGT in Chattanooga, TN, have been flipped to Nash Icons. Also, news/talk station WLVK in Lexington, KY, switched to Nash Icons at 5 eastern today. The station also took on the name Garth 101.5 since Garth is in Lexington tonight. Cumulus now has the Nash brand on 41 stations, and a total of 20 stations are now Nash Icons stations. Source(personally I hate the names "Nash" and "Nash Icons"--it's really cheesy to me--but I do like the moves Cumulus has been making; I just hate the names, lol)
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 10, 2014 13:07:53 GMT -5
Cumulus and Music Choice announce new partnership to further Nash BrandingCumulus has partnered with MUSIC CHOICE to further extend the NASH branding across the country. Beginning November 24th, Music Choice will feature NASH content across its multi-platform video and music network. As the number one provider of free video on demand servicing in America, Music Choice will make NASH country products available in 57 million homes. A dedicated NASH-TV category will make available original country artist interviews filmed at the NASH campus in Nashville along with Music Choice music videos. Content from "America's Morning Show" and "NASH Night's Live" will be utilized to form content as well as the addition of a new cooking show entitled "NASH Grits & Hits" (lol), a style show called "NASH Lash" (double lol) and an event show entitled "Red Carpet Radio". The current Music Choice "Today's Country" and "Country Hits" will now include NASH and NASH ICON programming blocks from 6p-9p ET daily. NASH brand facts and photos will appear on screen to compliment the music selection and enhance the experience for listeners. The "Today's Country" video channel on MUSICCHOICE.com will also be co-branded as "Today's Country: NASH TV" and will feature programming originated from the NASH campus alongside Music Choice videos. "Country has always been one of the most popular formats for us at Music Choice said Music Choice president/CEO Dave Del Beccaro. We are thrilled to be getting content from NASH that compliments our robust video and music library and entrenches us deeper in the country music lifestyle" Cumulus will cross-promote Music Choice programming on its radio stations nationwide and will be building out a dedicated Music Choice section within the NASH campus in Nashville "Our partnership with Music Choice to distribute NASH content to 57 million homes across America is yet another important platform in establishing NASH as the definitive lifestyles and entertainment brand for fans of country music", explained Cumulus CEO Lew Dickey. All Access
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Post by slowmo on Nov 11, 2014 0:45:25 GMT -5
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Post by StrongerThanTheTruth on Nov 11, 2014 7:34:36 GMT -5
Ronnie knows how to tease, and he's doing a damn good job at getting everyones attention. From the tweets you can gather Ronnie & Reba are touring together. Ronnie is joining Nash Icon, and that Ronnie is joining Reba on vacation to Chile.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 14, 2014 18:51:56 GMT -5
WWFF launches "93.3 NASH Icon". Cumulus has launched Country WWFF/Huntsville, Alabama as "93.3 NASH Icon". The station previously operated under the brand "Journey 93.3". All Access
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 1, 2014 12:51:01 GMT -5
Ronnie Dunn officially announced he's signed a deal with Nash Icon. Ronnie took a photo of himself wearing a hat titled, "NASHCHETTA". Music Row
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Post by slowmo on Dec 1, 2014 18:36:18 GMT -5
From the Music Row link:
"“Got my new company cap yesterday…..NASHIcon / NASHChetta / Big Machine. Thanks Narvel, Jim Weatherston, Scott Borchetta,” Dunn wrote on Facebook, thanking Nash Icon GM Jim Weatherson, and BMLG’s Scott Borchetta, and (presumably) manager Narvel Blackstock."
That's a new (and not a totally surprising) development, isn't it?
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Post by someguy on Dec 1, 2014 18:39:48 GMT -5
I'm not surprised at all, but that's the first I've heard of Ronnie working with Narvel. Makes perfect sense, though.
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Post by rsmatto on Dec 2, 2014 13:44:58 GMT -5
I'm not surprised at all, but that's the first I've heard of Ronnie working with Narvel. Makes perfect sense, though. He needed career reviving after nearly killing it with the anti-clear channel ranting last year. Thankfully, Narvel can fix all of that for him.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 2, 2014 15:45:12 GMT -5
I'm not surprised at all, but that's the first I've heard of Ronnie working with Narvel. Makes perfect sense, though. He needed career reviving after nearly killing it with the anti-clear channel ranting last year. Thankfully, Narvel can fix all of that for him. But can Narvel Blackstock deliver hits for Ronnie Dunn?
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Post by rsmatto on Dec 4, 2014 12:59:54 GMT -5
He needed career reviving after nearly killing it with the anti-clear channel ranting last year. Thankfully, Narvel can fix all of that for him. But can Narvel Blackstock deliver hits for Ronnie Dunn? I'm sure a first single will do ok on Nash Icon stations and help it chart. I don't know if the rest of radio really cares to play Ronnie Dunn music anymore.
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Post by someguy on Dec 5, 2014 23:24:55 GMT -5
But can Narvel Blackstock deliver hits for Ronnie Dunn? I'm sure a first single will do ok on Nash Icon stations and help it chart. I don't know if the rest of radio really cares to play Ronnie Dunn music anymore. I agree. Age aside, I think Ronnie has burned a lot of bridges at radio. Nash Icons/Narvel will help some I'm sure, but I think he's also done some damage that is irreparable.
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