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Post by liza on Jul 12, 2014 11:25:46 GMT -5
Free press and 400,000 fans, some with travel arrangements from other countries, who won't see him after he promised years ago to return to that venue. There was a better way than canceling on all of them. He made his message to the government officials in a public forum and I lost respect for him because of that. They should have tried to accommodate him, no doubt. But they have their laws and worry about lawsuits like anyone else. But his role in it stinks. Unless, of course, he gets that meeting with the Prime Minister. www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-garth-brooks-ireland-concerts-cancel-press-conference-20140710-story.html#page=1 |
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Post by 14887fan on Jul 12, 2014 11:54:45 GMT -5
Free press and 400,000 fans, some with travel arrangements from other countries, who won't see him after he promised years ago to return to that venue. There was a better way than canceling on all of them. He made his message to the government officials in a public forum and I lost respect for him because of that. They should have tried to accommodate him, no doubt. But they have their laws and worry about lawsuits like anyone else. But his role in it stinks. Unless, of course, he gets that meeting with the Prime Minister. www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-garth-brooks-ireland-concerts-cancel-press-conference-20140710-story.html#page=1What was he supposed to do? Illegally play the 5 shows anyways and put himself, his band, his crew, etc. in jeopardy? It's not Brooks' fault in the slightest. If the city of Dublin was adamant against there being no more than 3 shows played at the stadium per year, then they shouldn't have originally cleared him for 5 in the first place. That's where things got ugly and that's where it became unfair for Brooks. He doesn't have the right, and it isn't his place, to pick and choose who he gets to perform for after every person that was expecting to attend the shows bought their tickets. He either made it an "I perform for everyone" deal or "I won't perform at all because I can't say which fans can and can't come out to have a good time" deal. I'm just baffled by those that blame GB in this situation. All he did was make the call on the option of doing either all 5 shows or no shows at all. It's the government officials that screwed this one up from the get-go. Again, if there was a sticky situation/potential for an uproar about there being more than 3 shows played in the same calendar year at the venue, they shouldn't have booked him for 5 right off the bat. Not his fault; theirs. |
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Post by liza on Jul 12, 2014 12:47:33 GMT -5
I didn't say I blame him for the situation.
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Post by 14887fan on Jul 12, 2014 13:20:06 GMT -5
I didn't say I blame him for the situation. Okay, but how does his role in it stink? I'm confused by why you've lost all respect for him over a situation that was, essentially, out of his control. |
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 12, 2014 14:06:16 GMT -5
He could have fixed this quietly behind the scenes. But I've never been impressed with his theatrics. I don't know the numbers of albums sold or tickets sold but he is one of the biggest acts of all time. When you go away from regular touring for 13 years and your that big nothing you do is behind the scenes. This was gonna be out in the public whether he wanted it or not because someones gonna say something and its gonna slip. Garth knows how to play the game and he does it very well, More Than A Memory just doesn't debut at #1 on Billboard for nothing. With these shows they've been talked about in the US, UK, and Europe. Which is now further sparking the fire of a World Tour, and its getting it out there that he's getting ready to return. Free press in a way. I wonder if RCA will give Garth Brooks a #1 debuting single. It would be nice for RCA to sign Trisha Yearwood so we can get a duets CD. |
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Post by liza on Jul 12, 2014 15:10:07 GMT -5
I didn't say I blame him for the situation. Okay, but how does his role in it stink? I'm confused by why you've lost all respect for him over a situation that was, essentially, out of his control. If I go anywhere - in my city, to Nashville, or overseas to do business or for pleasure, it is my responsibility to know the rules and the law. I don't expect a city council member, mayor or other government representative to knock on my door and read the laws to me. When I do business overseas, I make sure I hire people who will advise me appropriately so that I am in compliance and there are no last minute glitches. If I am Garth Brooks, superstar extraordinaire, with every possible resource at my fingertips, I make sure I have the very best people representing me when doing business. I would expect those people to make sure they know every aspect of the rules and laws where they are representing me. At the very least, I would expect them to make sure the local promoter is doing his job and would speak to local officials very early in the process and make sure that they can handle me bringing almost 400,000 into a city of 540,000 over a 5 day period. His people could have better covered all bases and should have. They should have had the signed approval for the shows, one at a time, before selling the tickets. When all of that goes wrong or even if he just thinks the local rules are stupid, he shouldn't criticize them publicly and make an effort to contact the Taoiseach to intervene. I think he's playing chicken with the government and he could very well win - but it's unattractive arrogance to me. I think he should say his people didn't do their due diligence, he's disappointed they can't make this work for his Irish fans, thanks for making the exception for 3 shows and he'll be back after January to do the other two shows if he has to rent a field from a farmer to make it up to the 160,000 who bought tickets. I would respect him more if he admitted that there were problems on his side, too and if he didn't disappoint 240,000 who he doesn't have to let down. |
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Post by 14887fan on Jul 12, 2014 15:18:31 GMT -5
...if there was going to be an issue from 5 shows instead of 3, then they could've turned the idea down from the get-go. That's what this comes down to, and that's where the entire thing went awry. the Irish officials are to blame, ultimately and finally.
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Post by liza on Jul 12, 2014 15:29:50 GMT -5
...if there was going to be an issue from 5 shows instead of 3, then they could've turned the idea down from the get-go. That's what this comes down to, and that's where the entire thing went awry. the Irish officials are to blame, ultimately and finally. I look at it from a business perspective. The point is that his people should have had signed approval of the city manager from the get-go. If I were him, I would have fired someone by now. Someone he is paying a lot of money didn't cover his best interests. |
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Post by McCreerian on Jul 12, 2014 15:34:47 GMT -5
If that stadium was limited to only 3 concerts a year, and One Direction already did 3 concerts then it looks like they broke their own law by booking the Garth Brooks show in the first place. Or vice versa if Garth was booked first they broke their own law by booking One Direction for 3 nights.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 12, 2014 15:36:43 GMT -5
If that stadium was limited to only 3 concerts a year, and One Direction already did 3 concerts then it looks like they broke their own law by booking the Garth Brooks show in the first place. Or vice versa if Garth was booked first they broke their own law by booking One Direction for 3 nights. Seeing since One Direction does nothing for me, I'd say three nights of them is three nights too many! |
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Post by McCreerian on Jul 12, 2014 15:39:10 GMT -5
If that stadium was limited to only 3 concerts a year, and One Direction already did 3 concerts then it looks like they broke their own law by booking the Garth Brooks show in the first place. Or vice versa if Garth was booked first they broke their own law by booking One Direction for 3 nights. Seeing since One Direction does nothing for me, I'd say three nights of them is three nights too many! I didn't say that to get a smartass answer, it's a legitimate legal/business question. |
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 12, 2014 15:43:33 GMT -5
Seeing since One Direction does nothing for me, I'd say three nights of them is three nights too many! I didn't say that to get a smartass answer, it's a legitimate legal/business question. I didn't say that, either. My opening was is that the group doesn't fit my tastes. |
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Post by McCreerian on Jul 12, 2014 15:46:41 GMT -5
I didn't say that to get a smartass answer, it's a legitimate legal/business question. I didn't say that, either. My opening was is that the group doesn't fit my tastes. Well that's fine if they don't but it does nothing to add to if Dublin broke their own law or not, which was the original question. |
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Post by liza on Jul 12, 2014 15:49:11 GMT -5
If that stadium was limited to only 3 concerts a year, and One Direction already did 3 concerts then it looks like they broke their own law by booking the Garth Brooks show in the first place. Or vice versa if Garth was booked first they broke their own law by booking One Direction for 3 nights. This explains the timing and issues pretty well. They can approve more, it seems, but only with the agreement of the local residents, who initially complained in February. www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-28217237 |
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 14, 2014 7:56:59 GMT -5
A quick tidbit (or Timbit if you know what I mean): That means ALL big four artists from the Class of 1989 are or were Sony artists: Clint Black-RCA (before the Sony/BMG merger), Garth Brooks-RCA (current), Alan Jackson-Arista (before), and Travis Tritt-Columbia (during and former artist).
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 14, 2014 12:37:18 GMT -5
A quick tidbit ( or Timbit if you know what I mean): That means ALL big four artists from the Class of 1989 are or were Sony artists: Clint Black-RCA (before the Sony/BMG merger), Garth Brooks-RCA (current), Alan Jackson-Arista (before), and Travis Tritt-Columbia (during and former artist). Chocolate glazed I hope. ;) |
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 14, 2014 12:38:12 GMT -5
A quick tidbit ( or Timbit if you know what I mean): That means ALL big four artists from the Class of 1989 are or were Sony artists: Clint Black-RCA (before the Sony/BMG merger), Garth Brooks-RCA (current), Alan Jackson-Arista (before), and Travis Tritt-Columbia (during and former artist). Chocolate glazed I hope. ;) A quick ten is $1.99! |
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Post by McCreerian on Jul 14, 2014 16:47:43 GMT -5
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 14, 2014 17:08:41 GMT -5
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 14, 2014 17:39:27 GMT -5
It looks like it is according to USA Today. Official announcement will come Tuesday. :) Source |
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Post by minha2cp on Jul 14, 2014 23:33:16 GMT -5
Garth Brooks Talks About New Music! (Spotlight Country)
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Post by jferstler on Jul 15, 2014 14:20:03 GMT -5
$65.00 tickets for all seats in the house. Opening act is Trisha Yearwood
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Post by someguy on Jul 16, 2014 17:57:49 GMT -5
I'm late on this after being away for a couple of weeks (and heading off again for a bit tomorrow), but some initial thoughts on this:
- I'm so glad that Garth is giving it another try. I know it's been fairly obvious for a little while that this was happening, but his presence is sorely missed right now, so I'm very glad that he's giving it a try for a full on comeback, instead of just throwing out a couple of new songs/another hits/live/covers package.
- It's a tricky situation, but I agree 100% with his decision to cancel all of the Ireland shows, rather than just play some of them. Hopefully some sort of deal can be struck where he'll still be able to do all 5, but if not, I think this is the right call.
- I knew this was coming too, but I'm so glad that Trisha is getting proper billing on the tour. I'm most excited for a comeback of hers, and I really think that she stands a chance based on the promotion/attention that she'll get from Garth's tour (and hopefully a duet sent to radio at some point).
- I agree that his first single is almost guaranteed to be a big hit (top 5/#1), and then the real test will come with subsequent singles. If anyone from the 90s who has been gone for awhile can pull off a full comeback, it's Garth, so I'm very interested to see how radio reacts.
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 17, 2014 9:58:57 GMT -5
Garth definitely can 'comeback' and there's a spot for him. He's a George-like star.
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Post by jferstler on Jul 30, 2014 11:07:40 GMT -5
Garth has announces Atlanta as the second stop on his world tour.
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Post by McCreerian on Jul 30, 2014 15:32:20 GMT -5
Garth has announces Atlanta as the second stop on his world tour. And of course it's the week I'll be in California on vacation. Hopefully he'll add Charlotte/Raleigh sooner or later. |
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