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Post by Eqbk on Dec 27, 2014 15:52:36 GMT -5
Rebellion sounds messy, but very interesting. How much did she record for Original Doll? I've always wondered what her life and legacy would be like if she had recorded that album. There were a couple of songs recorded that we know of but she wasn't too far into the process, so who knows if those songs would've even made the final tracklist. A few of the songs did end up being fine tuned and then just kind of tossed out there, like Mona Lisa (which was the supposed first single). As for the album's legacy, who knows. Again, she was still very early in the album making process. As we all should know at this point, whatever vision she has for the album during the early stages can completely change later on. That said, I think if the label hadn't pulled the album, I think she may have been a better place today and perhaps happier. Despite In the Zone likely being her most personal album to date, there was a definite struggle between her and her label regarding the direction of the album. Original Doll, if Britney had her way, would've given her most personally involved album yet and definitely could completely changed how life turned out. That's why it irks me when I hear some fans say that they were glad the Original Doll project got pulled by the label just b/c they didn't like the early rough cuts. Again, we don't know what the final product would have been like, and seriously, why are you glad that the label stifled her creatively? I think she may have been in a better place had she had the chance to really get a lot frustrations of her chest and perhaps a bit more passionate about her music today instead of just seeing it as a paycheck. Of course, this is all just speculation. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 16:44:19 GMT -5
In all fairness, I don't think not pulling the album would have "saved" Britney. The album being scrapped because the label "didn't like it" never made sense because, when the same thing happened to Femme Fatale, the label reworked it. There could have been more opposition from Spears for creative control for Original Doll, of course, but keep in mind that she was kind of doing... well, a LOT of other things outside of music at the time. Such as Kevin, lol. I think she's just as much to blame for it not materializing, and given how short on time she was to actually work on it, had it been completed it probably wouldn't have come out until Blackout did anyway. There's not telling what would've happened, given all the other personal troubles she had in that period of time that weren't concerning her career.
If anything, I think the album kind of evolved into Blackout, so to speak.
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Post by Eqbk on Dec 27, 2014 19:13:45 GMT -5
Original Doll definitely wouldn't have fixed everything but I think the project being pulled really exasperated her unhappiness with her music career at the time. There wasn't really a lot for her to be happy about in regards to her music career: she had to fight for creative control and she felt really burnt out by the promo/touring schedule that they had set up. I remember being really surprised that she had showed up to KIIS-FM to premiere the rough cut of "Mona Lisa". Not just b/c it came out of nowhere, but b/c she had talked about taking a break to focus on family. Yet, here she was, premiering her first single and focusing on her music and career. It made think that maybe a lot of the things she was doing, including Kevin, was just her trying to find happiness that she wasn't getting from her career anymore. Original Doll would've been a nice way for Britney to vent and maybe feel happier w/ her music career. The point about Blackout is interesting. I have always wondered whether Blackout would have even existed had Britney been able to go through w/ the Original Doll project. Anyways, speaking of money, love and happiness, she looks pretty happy here:  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 20:46:27 GMT -5
Original Doll definitely wouldn't have fixed everything but I think the project being pulled really exasperated her unhappiness with her music career at the time. There wasn't really a lot for her to be happy about in regards to her music career: she had to fight for creative control and she felt really burnt out by the promo/touring schedule that they had set up. Yeah, and I don't disagree with you that it probably did get to her. At the same time, your point about 'Mona Lisa' kind of made me think she may have been lashing out. Like, this was intended to be her My December or something but things just never pieced together and her management wouldn't let her go through with it or something? The whole thing was so odd. Right before she went on Kiss-FM to debut the unauthorized "lead single" that Jive hadn't even f**king heard (lol), she was talking about how she wanted to start her own label and s**t. No doubt that, in some way or another, the idea of the album (at the time) had something to do with her disappointment in her career. But onto my next point.. The point about Blackout is interesting. I have always wondered whether Blackout would have even existed had Britney been able to go through w/ the Original Doll project Maybe not as Blackout, but I still think it would have in any event. Britney started recording Blackout almost immediately after Original Doll was "cancelled"-- which leads me to believe some of the recording process for the album bled into Original Doll's. So, in a sense, we only missed out on a handful of demos that we've already heard; and most of those were released to the public anyway to promote the timeless hell that was Chaotic. Had we never even heard of the alleged Original Doll, the behind the scenes work would've probably naturally shifted into the creative gear that resulted in Blackout's production-- another product of Britney's, albeit less personal; but artist's don't always stick to their original ideas anyway. If we're to believe both album's were her catharsis, or "escape" from whatever was most ailing her at the time-- in Original Doll's case, her career; and in Blackout's, well, life itself-- then the concept didn't change that much, actually. Basically, what I'm getting at is that I'm in the small minority that thinks Blackout is, essentially, the hypothetical Original Doll "album"-- which only ever existed as a concept with a working title, and never materialized as a body of work at any given point in time. |
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Dec 27, 2014 22:00:57 GMT -5
@touch, were you ever nominated for Best Stan for Britney? If not, it's probably one of the biggest tragedies in the history of Pulse. You are like the Encyclopedia Brittanica.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 22:01:18 GMT -5
@touch, were you ever nominated for Best Stan for Britney? If not, it's probably one of the biggest tragedies in the history of Pulse. You are like the Encyclopedia Brittanica. I was nominated the first time last year, but have never won, no. |
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Dec 27, 2014 22:04:13 GMT -5
@touch, were you ever nominated for Best Stan for Britney? If not, it's probably one of the biggest tragedies in the history of Pulse. You are like the Encyclopedia Brittanica. I was nominated the first time last year, but have never won, no. It's an injustice, really. I've learned a veritable treasure trove of Britney trivia from reading your posts about her. |
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Post by SHOOTER on Dec 28, 2014 3:52:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I've always assumed that Blackout was essentially the realized version of OD mainly because OD only existed in sketches and fragments and never really had any substance to it. The whole concept and title of OD still thrills me, however.
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Post by vipanonymous on Dec 28, 2014 8:57:35 GMT -5
Yeah, I've always assumed that Blackout was essentially the realized version of OD mainly because OD only existed in sketches and fragments and never really had any substance to it. The whole concept and title of OD still thrills me, however. This. Kiss Me All Over was meant for OD, right? I have some unreleased songs but i don't recall what era they belong lol. |
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Post by Eqbk on Dec 28, 2014 14:00:27 GMT -5
Britney celebrated the 1-year anniversary of her Vegas show:  The point about Blackout is interesting. I have always wondered whether Blackout would have even existed had Britney been able to go through w/ the Original Doll project Maybe not as Blackout, but I still think it would have in any event. Britney started recording Blackout almost immediately after Original Doll was "cancelled"-- which leads me to believe some of the recording process for the album bled into Original Doll's. So, in a sense, we only missed out on a handful of demos that we've already heard; and most of those were released to the public anyway to promote the timeless hell that was Chaotic. Had we never even heard of the alleged Original Doll, the behind the scenes work would've probably naturally shifted into the creative gear that resulted in Blackout's production-- another product of Britney's, albeit less personal; but artist's don't always stick to their original ideas anyway. If we're to believe both album's were her catharsis, or "escape" from whatever was most ailing her at the time-- in Original Doll's case, her career; and in Blackout's, well, life itself-- then the concept didn't change that much, actually. Basically, what I'm getting at is that I'm in the small minority that thinks Blackout is, essentially, the hypothetical Original Doll "album"-- which only ever existed as a concept with a working title, and never materialized as a body of work at any given point in time. The reason why I struggled with the idea of whether or not Blackout would have happened had she gone through w/ Original Doll was the fact that the concept and approach behind putting together those two albums were very different. Original Doll, as you said, was supposed to be something like her My December: an album to vent and get whatever she needed out of her system and have personal touch to it. In contrast, Blackout, was personal by being impersonal. The main tracklist was specifically chosen to be mostly upbeat and non-personal songs. The concept behind the album was to black out the negativity. By that point in time, she no longer felt like venting but felt like numbing things out. Would she have ever gotten to that point had she been able to get everything out of her system through Original Doll? If no, then how would many of those that ended up on Blackout would have ultimately made the tracklist for Original Doll when the concept (and therefore the criteria for selecting songs) would have been different from the criteria set in Blackout? What you're saying does make sense to me though. Perhaps if the label had just told her to go back and record more music instead of outright pulling the project, it could have been, as you said, evolved into something resembling Blackout. Concepts do change w/ Britney albums and maybe a mix of what she wanted with Original Doll and what ultimately ended up on Blackout could have been a nice compromise between her and the label. There are songs on Blackout that I do think could have easily fit on both (ie. "Piece of Me"). |
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Post by BOBO on Dec 28, 2014 14:30:00 GMT -5
So I get a reply from William: ~Bo Spears~ 1hr @bspearsremixed William said he had some "BJS" news 2 weeks ago, but never delivered. @breatheheavycom @williamorbit Britney SpearsWilliam Orbit 1hr @williamorbit @bspearsremixed @breatheheavycom Britney Spears i know, damned if i do, damned if i don't! He's been trolling us this whole time. Surprised? |
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Post by think pink. on Dec 28, 2014 15:09:59 GMT -5
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Dec 28, 2014 16:00:33 GMT -5
http://instagram.com/p/xJBxOMR9hZ I'm just going to leave that here... Also, checking out some videos from last night's show. It sounds like they have either pre-recorded some vocals in a few songs, or found the ever elusive power switch to her mic. |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Dec 28, 2014 22:18:52 GMT -5
All the Original Doll talk makes me feel nostalgic. I loved the demos/songs that leaked and were supposedly from the project.
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Post by PrinceAli89 on Dec 28, 2014 23:26:33 GMT -5
So I get a reply from William: ~Bo Spears~ 1hr @bspearsremixed William said he had some "BJS" news 2 weeks ago, but never delivered. @breatheheavycom @williamorbit Britney SpearsWilliam Orbit 1hr @williamorbit @bspearsremixed @breatheheavycom Britney Spears i know, damned if i do, damned if i don't! He's been trolling us this whole time. Surprised? Wow. He's actually becoming more annoying than will.i.am at this point. Didn't think that was possible.  |
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Dec 29, 2014 0:05:23 GMT -5
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Post by Ginger Spice on Dec 29, 2014 2:17:53 GMT -5
I impulse bought the Britney issue of Women's Health while in line at Target last night. I was with both of my parents. My mom looked at it and immediately went "THAT'S BRITNEY? That looks nothing like her. Greg, what do you think?" My dad grabbed it and looked at it for about five or ten seconds, then responded, "Oh, you meant her face?"
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Post by Anticonformity on Dec 29, 2014 3:32:16 GMT -5
Also, checking out some videos from last night's show. It sounds like they have either pre-recorded some vocals in a few songs, or found the ever elusive power switch to her mic. Noticed the same! #PleaseFindTheFullSwitchByAugust |
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Post by BOBO on Dec 29, 2014 9:42:42 GMT -5
Poor Britney!
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Post by Oprah on Dec 29, 2014 10:17:12 GMT -5
Holy shit, she's already been in Vegas for a year? Seems like her residency just started yesterday.
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Post by BOBO on Dec 29, 2014 12:14:23 GMT -5
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Post by Hussy on Dec 29, 2014 20:26:54 GMT -5
http://instagr.am/p/xJBxOMR9hZ I'm just going to leave that here... Also, checking out some videos from last night's show. It sounds like they have either pre-recorded some vocals in a few songs, or found the ever elusive power switch to her mic. HOLY SHIT who is that ???  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 20:45:57 GMT -5
I really don't want William Orbit anywhere near this project. 'Alien' was alright, I guess, but he's so out of touch. With the current scene, with her, and with... everything, really. Don't get me started on his social media presence. He's like the Azealia Banks of producers-- has no idea when to shut up.
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Post by think pink. on Dec 29, 2014 20:54:33 GMT -5
Like, is it really so hard to get an album soley produced by B&A & Danja? le sigh.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Dec 29, 2014 21:12:38 GMT -5
Like, is it really so hard to get an album soley produced by B&A & Danja? le sigh. THIS. Also, if Mark Taylor is added here, I'll be pleased. However, I don't know if he has produced something recently, so... |
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Post by **βécky**™ on Dec 30, 2014 0:58:46 GMT -5
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Dec 31, 2014 3:29:31 GMT -5
Britney likes Classical music such as Journey and Chris Isaac
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Post by Ryan on Dec 31, 2014 3:41:35 GMT -5
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Post by Ryan on Dec 31, 2014 5:22:17 GMT -5
^ That video just completed my life.
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